Dreamcast 2 would surely solve the console wars

I keep hearing rumors about another console by Sega but still nothing. I still have my Dreamcast and let me say that its still a very fun console to play. That was when gaming was fun now its all drama. Im not going to comment on the Xbone. Sony on the other hand has really got it together. Nintendo just thought that they could sell you the same system in a different form and you would be convinced that it was an improvement graphically. I dont know whats going on but the industry has changed significantly. I support Sony all the way. Ofcourse I would rather see another Sega console. What if we were to petition to Sega and let them know that we are ready to try again. I figure with 100 million signatures or so we could make it happen.RimacBugatti

I love the idea of it. But despite how blunt Jak may be, he's right. It's just not gonna happen anytime soon. Last I read, Sega was actually thinking about scaling back so much, that they were considering the idea of ONLY releasing games via game networks like XBox Live Arcade and Steam.

Sega was well behind Nintendo, and when Sony/Microsoft came in, it became more apparent we don't need Sega.

Sega doesn't have any quality first parties anyway.  Just Sonic, which has been abused as much as Madden.

I do kinda miss sega. The more competition the better imo.

Sega was well behind Nintendo, and when Sony/Microsoft came in, it became more apparent we don't need Sega.

Sega doesn't have any quality first parties anyway.  Just Sonic, which has been abused as much as Madden.

drekula2

Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises

I keep hearing rumors about another console by Sega but still nothing. I still have my Dreamcast and let me say that its still a very fun console to play. That was when gaming was fun now its all drama. Im not going to comment on the Xbone. Sony on the other hand has really got it together. Nintendo just thought that they could sell you the same system in a different form and you would be convinced that it was an improvement graphically. I dont know whats going on but the industry has changed significantly. I support Sony all the way. Ofcourse I would rather see another Sega console. What if we were to petition to Sega and let them know that we are ready to try again. I figure with 100 million signatures or so we could make it happen.RimacBugatti

There is no financial incentive for Sega to be producing a console at this point. Sega is now financially better off as a third-party developer & publisher and arcade manufacturer. Going back to manufacturing consoles would be unnecessarily too risky for them.

Make a direct successor to a system that almost bankrupt them - great idea!

Right now, you should be more concerned if Sega even survives the next-gen, as a publisher.

[QUOTE="drekula2"]

Sega was well behind Nintendo, and when Sony/Microsoft came in, it became more apparent we don't need Sega.

Sega doesn't have any quality first parties anyway.  Just Sonic, which has been abused as much as Madden.

Jag85

Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises

*reads*

well, yeah, as i said.  no QUALITY first parties.

Dreamcast 2 would probably put Sega out of business!

It would be a terrible move to try and compete with Sony and Microsoft currently; even Nintendo, who has one hell of a brand, can barely do it.

It would ruin Sega financially, but that's not to say I wouldn't support the idea. I've always thought the more the better, and it is kind of sad to see what's happened to Sega as a company. It's a fun thing to think about, but that's about it.

I would be happy with just some news about them publishing Condemned 3...

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

[QUOTE="drekula2"]

Sega was well behind Nintendo, and when Sony/Microsoft came in, it became more apparent we don't need Sega.

Sega doesn't have any quality first parties anyway. Just Sonic, which has been abused as much as Madden.

drekula2

Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises

*reads*

well, yeah, as i said. no QUALITY first parties.

Sega has such a HUGE and library of first-party titles covering every genre out there. There's something in there for everyone.

[QUOTE="drekula2"]

Sega was well behind Nintendo, and when Sony/Microsoft came in, it became more apparent we don't need Sega.

Sega doesn't have any quality first parties anyway.  Just Sonic, which has been abused as much as Madden.

Jag85

Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises

Sega has such a HUGE and library of first-party titles covering every genre out there. There's something in there for everyone.

Emerald_Warrior

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Sega has such a HUGE and library of first-party titles covering every genre out there. There's something in there for everyone.

TheKungFool

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

[QUOTE="drekula2"]

Sega was well behind Nintendo, and when Sony/Microsoft came in, it became more apparent we don't need Sega.

Sega doesn't have any quality first parties anyway.  Just Sonic, which has been abused as much as Madden.

drekula2

Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises

*reads*

well, yeah, as i said.  no QUALITY first parties.

Fine, if you want to play it that way...

Mega Drive / Genesis

Saturn

Dreamcast

...And there you go, plenty of quality first-party Sega titles (just look for the words "Sega", or alternatively "SOJ" or "Sonic Team" or "AM2"), and that's not even including the quality first-party games for the Master System, or the Arcades, or the PC.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

 

Sega has such a HUGE and library of first-party titles covering every genre out there. There's something in there for everyone.

TheKungFool

Well, remember the Dreamcast died after 2 years on the market. Perhaps they were going to do something with them. For example, Shinobi and PD Orta were released soon after the DC died. Maybe if the DC didn't die, they would have been on the DC.

You can't just say "VIDEO GAME - BE DEVELOPED!" and BOOM, it's developed. It takes time, work, and money.

Personally, I'd love for Sega to release a console that mixed the Master system (with FM audio), Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, Saturn, Game Gear and Dreamcast into one single consolerilpas

There is a console almost like that...

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/modding/2013/04/18/project-unity-mod-15-18-consoles-in-one-box/1

Personally, I'd love for Sega to release a console that mixed the Master system (with FM audio), Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, Saturn, Game Gear and Dreamcast into one single consolerilpas

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Sega has such a HUGE and library of first-party titles covering every genre out there. There's something in there for everyone.

Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

In fact, the reason I didn't bother much with the first DreamCast: it was lacking most of my favorite SEGA properties.

Shinobi, Shining Force, Panzer Dragoon, Altered Beast, Nights, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, WonderBoy, Dragon Force.....
*not to mention a REAL phantasy star would have been nice

you're telling me they couldn't do anything with those properties!?

TheKungFool

It would fail horrifically. There is no way around that. As Jak pointed out, a new Sega console wouldn't really have any support from any developers beyond a few unknowns and themselves. The competition is just too locked out.

The clear flaw here is you forgot about Saturn.....Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] The clear flaw here is you forgot about Saturn.....TheKungFool

did you graduate HS?Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] did you graduate HS?TheKungFool

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] The clear flaw here is you forgot about Saturn.....Jakandsigz

Really? Saying stuff like that only makes people wonder whether or not you have...

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

sorry mate, but thats about the part where I stopped reading. I'll assume you went on to try and use saturn sales numbers as some sort of justification that nobody was buying those games or something to that effect, and we both know how stupid of an argument that is

you can't say ____ series didn't sell well on saturn so it means nobody would have bought it.

fact is, SEGA skrewed up and pissed off alot of people, both potential fans and existing user bases with all the SegaCD, 32X, Neptune etc fiascos, and the Saturn launch was an absolute mess. The Saturn didn't do well because of how it was handled. That doesn't mean that had the Saturn been handled properly, games couldn't have done well.

and clearly SEGA felt the series I mentioned still held some sort of worth, given that they've gone back to most of those series with new installments since.
If SEGA honestly felt Shinobi (PS2), Phantasy Star (NGC, PS2, XBOX), Panzer Dragoon (XBOX), Shining Force (PS2), Golden Axe(360,PS3) and such were dead properties, they probably wouldn't have gone back to them.

Blueresident87

Really? Saying stuff like that only makes people wonder whether or not you have...

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

I was going to take your post seriously, right up until I read this lame attempt to insult.

yes, I finished High School. I also hold a college diploma in business marketing, and a double degree in history and philosophy with honors from a major university.
does that make my opinion about video games any more/less valid to you?


TheKungFool

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This was not necessary at all. Jakandsigz

I did not know I was going under your skin that bad. Jakandsigz

Sorry. Jakandsigz

I was just saying that it seemed so obvious that from a business sense those games would not work on a Dreamcast.Jakandsigz

I just had a hard time believing you were serious.Jakandsigz

personally, I think "panzer dragoon orta" would have made a fine addition to the dreamcast library, AND IF DONE RIGHT, new versions of Shinobi, Shining Force, Golden Axe COULD have potentially been sucessful (and maybe even help system sales, again, provided the games were actually GOOD)TheKungFool

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

I was going to take your post seriously, right up until I read this lame attempt to insult.

yes, I finished High School. I also hold a college diploma in business marketing, and a double degree in history and philosophy with honors from a major university.
does that make my opinion about video games any more/less valid to you?


TheKungFool

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MAYBE, IF YOU DIDN'T SPEND SO MUCH TIME WITH YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, YOU'D SAY SOMETHING WORTH WHILE?

OH SNAP!

This thread is full of sega and sony fanboys. lame...

This thread is full of sega and sony fanboys. lame...

luckykoopsie

I do wish Sega would team up with someone like Google or Samsung to possibly make a Sega branded Android console that gets Sega games exclusively for $99-$150.

Give me a six button controller with two analogs, triggers, give it the most powerful mobile hardware so it can run all android games for at least a few years, make a bunch of first party exclusives and I think it could carve out a good niche market if priced close to $100

Ouya is doing terrible but the Sonic brand and Sega's IPs could possibly get people on board with a cheap $100 console, and teaming up with a big android supporter, specifically Google, would give them the funds to do so. Sell it at a healthy profit around $100-$150 and they'd make a bunch of money

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

I was going to take your post seriously, right up until I read this lame attempt to insult.

yes, I finished High School. I also hold a college diploma in business marketing, and a double degree in history and philosophy with honors from a major university.
does that make my opinion about video games any more/less valid to you?


TheKungFool

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MAYBE, IF YOU DIDN'T SPEND SO MUCH TIME WITH YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, YOU'D SAY SOMETHING WORTH WHILE?

You look really foolish for taking a stranger on the net so seriously to post all of this personal info

As much as i miss Sega there's really not a place for them anymore.

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] I doubt that. bonesawisready5

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You look really foolish for taking a stranger on the net so seriously to post all of this personal info

No Jak, you look like a douche here, like usual. There's no reason be so rude and blunt with everyone around here all the time. Some people may deserve it here or there, but not KungFool, for sure.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.

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Emerald_Warrior

You look really foolish for taking a stranger on the net so seriously to post all of this personal info

No Jak, you look like a douche here, like usual. There's no reason be so rude and blunt with everyone around here all the time. Some people may deserve it here or there, but not KungFool, for sure.

I don't even know why I wrote Jak, sorry.

I think we can all chill now, its all good.

I appreciate your kind words EMERALD, that respect goes both ways for sure.

And Jak, we're good man, you appologized, and I should have just ignored the "did you finish high school" thing anyways, as you were probably just messing around, and if not, I should have let it go anyways.

I think we can all chill now, its all good.

I appreciate your kind words EMERALD, that respect goes both ways for sure.

And Jak, we're good man, you appologized, and I should have just ignored the "did you finish high school" thing anyways, as you were probably just messing around, and if not, I should have let it go anyways.

TheKungFool

Oh, Jak did say that. Here I was looking back and the last quote pyramid thinking I was the one that screwed up, when all that happened was his comment that he did say somehow got left out of it. So I do stand by what I say.