EA Sports games are not realistic.

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#1 SpaceMoose
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I'm not much of a sports game player, but there is something about some EA Sports games that has always bothered me, and that is the only way to have a "normal" game score is to play with the shortened periods that are usually the default settings. If you play a full-length game (and in some of the old games at least, the timer still ran fast anyway), you generally end up with unrealistic scores. I don't know if the games are deliberately weighted towards scoring points to make them feel more exciting, or if it's just hard for them to nail down defense right, but this is something that has always bothered me on occasion that I play a sports game.

I should add that I have not played EA Sports games in a while, so I don't know if they ever made any effort to address this, but I just recently happened to glimpse a review for the new Madden game where it was said that the game was very much like the real thing, and it made me think of how none of their contact sports games that are played with a timer have ever been realistic in regards to how quickly points are scored. I get that not everyone wants to sit down and play a game that is over an hour long every time they play a sports game, but surely they could at least have different settings to accomodate those people who really want the game to be as much of a simulation as possible.

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#3 masterpinky2000
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Um, this has to be a joke, right?

No one wants to actually play a 90-minute long match in FIFA, it would be exhausting. Same with 15-min quarters in a Madden game -- there's a reason those TV broadcasts take 3.5 hours, and I don't want to have to spend a whole afternoon advancing one week in franchise mode.

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#4 SpaceMoose
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Um, this has to be a joke, right?

No one wants to actually play a 90-minute long match in FIFA, it would be exhausting. Same with 15-min quarters in a Madden game -- there's a reason those TV broadcasts take 3.5 hours, and I don't want to have to spend a whole afternoon advancing one week in franchise mode.

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Um, I said that I understand that some (maybe most) people don't want to play a game that's over an hour long, but ostensibly they are supposed to be realistic simulations, and they don't even have the OPTION to have a realistic full-length game for anyone who really wants it to be close to the real thing. Defense is severely crippled in order for normal scores to be obtainable in a much shorter time length. I would just think that after two decades or however long it's been of making sports games that at some point they could put the option in there to have realistic full-length games, if realism is in fact their goal.
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[QUOTE="masterpinky2000"]

Um, this has to be a joke, right?

No one wants to actually play a 90-minute long match in FIFA, it would be exhausting. Same with 15-min quarters in a Madden game -- there's a reason those TV broadcasts take 3.5 hours, and I don't want to have to spend a whole afternoon advancing one week in franchise mode.

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Um, I said that I understand that some (maybe most) people don't want to play a game that's over an hour long, but ostensibly they are supposed to be realistic simulations, and they don't even have the OPTION to have a realistic full-length game for anyone who really wants it to be close to the real thing. Defense is severely crippled in order for normal scores to be obtainable in a much shorter time length. I would just think that after two decades or however long it's been of making sports games that at some point they could put the option in there to have realistic full-length games, if realism is in fact their goal.

you can have a full-length realistic scoring game if you want...first put the quarter length to full length...second turn the dificulty to HOF (and leave/turn on fatigue)...then play it like you would if you were a head coach..use strategy...don't use the 'tricks' you've learned to get easy scores (like the bomb to moss method for dreamcast nfl 2k lol)...and try playing different defensive players, and not the one you can easily sack the QB everytime...the final score should be in the 'normal' score range...works for me...but I can only handle a game like that maybe once in my whole life...:P

but I think the main reason is, is that gameplay on a video game is a lot faster than real life..so naturally if you added more time, the scores are going to be higher (especially if you leave it on pro or superstar)...like in the NFL, most teams snap the ball with like 1-5 seconds left on the playclock...when I play I'll snap it right away most the time, unless it took more time to pick a play, or I'm trying to fake a snap...also I don't think the running speed on a video game is true scale to the pros...I know it definately isn't on NBA video games...so if you set it to HOF, the speed won't change, but you will fail more often, and that is what will keep the scores normal, when you add time..

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#7 meiaman
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They are not even realistic in the first place. A player can cross the field from ones side to another much faster than on real-life.
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#8 DarkCatalyst
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Um, this has to be a joke, right?

No one wants to actually play a 90-minute long match in FIFA, it would be exhausting. Same with 15-min quarters in a Madden game -- there's a reason those TV broadcasts take 3.5 hours, and I don't want to have to spend a whole afternoon advancing one week in franchise mode.

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Speak for yourself. I wouldn't mind an all-out simulation mode in NHL, although I must also say I'm quite satisfied with the level of realism that's there right now, too.
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#9 ace8171993
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see u might say that now that u would like 3 and 1/2 hour games now but they would get old really quick and who would want to waste half there day playing two games.........
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#10 DarkCatalyst
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Flaw in your argument: I actually USED to play in real time, until I got put off by the ridiculous scores that would pile up.
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#11 ace8171993
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didnt it ever get really boring and u just wanted to stop playing but u couldnt because u need to finish the game
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#12 BuryMe
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I find they're not too realistic, but for a different reason. No matter what the difficulty level is, there's always 1 sure fire way to beat the AI, and that makes it too easy. And then, yes, you end up with an unrealistic score.

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#13 ace8171993
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well i guess your right but what would be the fun in that if sometimes there was absolutly no way to beat the ai they need to do make at least one way to beat the ai the challange is to find that certain way to beat it in certain situations
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#14 BuryMe
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well i guess your right but what would be the fun in that if sometimes there was absolutly no way to beat the ai they need to do make at least one way to beat the ai the challange is to find that certain way to beat it in certain situationsace8171993
Sure, I like my games to be winnable, but they could make the game a bit more challenging. I mean there's always 1 sure fire way to beat the AI. They could try and close that loophople and make winning about skill rather than trying to do the exact same moves over and over again

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#15 DarkCatalyst
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didnt it ever get really boring and u just wanted to stop playing but u couldnt because u need to finish the gameace8171993
No, not really. Keep in mind I used to play Hockey myself.
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#16 ace8171993
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yea but think how hard it would be to make an ai to read the skill of a player......not as easy as you think
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#17 ace8171993
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well i didnt know that. but for all the other ppl in the world who dont play hockey it would be annoying
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#18 SpaceMoose
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well i didnt know that. but for all the other ppl in the world who dont play hockey it would be annoyingace8171993
Usually when you replying to a post other than the first one, you should quote the post or at least mention the user name of the person you are talking to. Otherwise it's just confusing.
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#19 DarkCatalyst
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well i didnt know that. but for all the other ppl in the world who dont play hockey it would be annoyingace8171993
Still deserves to be there as an option.
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#20 ace8171993
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[QUOTE="ace8171993"]well i didnt know that. but for all the other ppl in the world who dont play hockey it would be annoyingDarkCatalyst
Still deserves to be there as an option.

yea it would be pretty cool if you could turn it on and off but to have it all the time would become a hastle
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#21 BanjoMumbo
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I guess corn isn't food then...:roll:

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#23 SpaceMoose
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[QUOTE="BanjoMumbo"] I guess corn isn't food then...:roll:

I guess you just read subject lines and respond to them without reading the post.