Even with Crysis out, does Half-Life 2 still hold the crown for best FPS of all?

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#1 StatusShuffle
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Crysis amazed gamers with its open world gameplay but failed in personality, characters, gunplay, mechanics, and felt shallow. It didn't have the atmosphere or emotion either that the superior Half-Life 2 crafted, as well as innovative items and weapons. Crysis 2 took the foothold Crysis built and tore it down. Half-lIfe two to most is still the greatest achievement in FPS history and I can see why, everything is a masterpiece and executed flawlessly, and the only other games that people mention as close to a competitor is Crysis, which lacks the polish, the imagination, and the flawless gameplay and content needed to be as great as Half-Life 2. Half-Life 2 still has yet to be topped by even Valve. Do you think Crysis took the crown or will Half-Life 2 reign on as the most memorable FPS experience?
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#2 IndianaPwns39
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And why are the contenders for best FPS of all only Crysis and Half Life 2?

Besides, Far Cry is better than Crysis... which I know I'm in the minority with that opinion, but whatever.

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#3 StatusShuffle
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And why are the contenders for best FPS of all only Crysis and Half Life 2?

Besides, Far Cry is better than Crysis... which I know I'm in the minority with that opinion, but whatever.

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Because Far Cry has nowhere near the 96 on MC as Half-life http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/half-life-2 and also these are the only two games constantly regarded as best FPS of all time on Gamespot. PC forums PGD System Wars Off-topic(then deleted because it was off-topic.) Audio discussion. All over.
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Besides, Far Cry is better than Crysis... which I know I'm in the minority with that opinion, but whatever.IndianaPwns39
Damn straight. FarCry owns Crysis
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#5 wiouds
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Did Half-Life 2 even wear the crown?

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#6 chilly-chill
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L0L implying Crysis is the best FPS of all time.
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#7 IndianaPwns39
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[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

And why are the contenders for best FPS of all only Crysis and Half Life 2?

Besides, Far Cry is better than Crysis... which I know I'm in the minority with that opinion, but whatever.

StatusShuffle

Because Far Cry has nowhere near the 96 on MC as Half-life http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/half-life-2 and also these are the only two games constantly regarded as best FPS of all time on Gamespot. PC forums PGD System Wars Off-topic(then deleted because it was off-topic.) Audio discussion. All over.

Oh so we're playing the popularity game, not an actual discussion on our personal favorite FPS titles? If we're having a metacritic debate not only will it be A) Completely boring but also... well no boring works. Crysis has a 91 on metacritic, Half Life 2 has a 96. There's your answer according to your criteria.

Far Cry has an 89 on meta, btw, a whopping 2 points below Crysis. IMO the only thing Crysis has on Far Cry is superior visuals, but Far Cry had a much more memorable campaign and better multiplayer.

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#8 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Crysis has visuals and nothing more. As a game itself it's not particularly great. Some neat mechanics and level design but it gets boring fast without pretty mods to stare at. It's story is extremely weak too.

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#9 GamerForca
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Half-Life 2 never held the crown to begin with. It didn't even top its predecessor. Crysis is good, but not even the best FPS of this generation. But I suppose the last two sentences are irrelevant because the answer was no to begin with.
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#10 brickdoctor
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Crysis is really overrated. Good, but overrated. And Half Life 2 has been topped... by Half Life 2: Episode II. Other than that it's still on top.

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#11 Ernesto_basic
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Talk about a can of worms!

Personally, neither of those games would make my list of top 5 first person shooters, but it's all subjective in the end.

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#12 campzor
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half life 2 best fps? lol its not even better than the first half life
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#13 blackhawk9795
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half life 2 best fps? lol its not even better than the first half lifecampzor

Half-life better than Half-life 2? lol, it is not better than Half-life 2

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#14 LongZhiZi
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I've never felt Half Life 2 was that good because the shooting aspect is just bland.
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Crysis doesn't hold a candle to HL2 on it's best day. Crysis is literally the epitome of overated videogame.
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#16 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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I prefer Far Cry 1 over Crysis (though Crysis is still a fantastic game that has alot going for it other than graphics)

But I prefer Half Life 2. Honestly one of the best shooters ever made

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#17 ultimate-k
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Crysis is easily one of the best FPS this gen, but even though Crysis does some things better than HL2, Half-Life 2 is the better overall game.

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Halo 3 for me.

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#19 PetJel
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Half Life 2 was revolutionary in so many ways when it came out. The graphics and physics among other things were amazing but the levels were so tedious and boring to play through, just the boat levels took like 3 hours to get through and the driving levels at least that. Ravenholm and the late game was fun though.

I just played through the game again 2 weeks ago and found myself bored through nearly the entire thing. I can still play Half Life 1 anytimie and not get bored.

HL2 was the most innovative sure, but as a game it doesn't stand up that well anymore imo.

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#20 unrealtron
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Crysis is really overrated. Good, but overrated. And Half Life 2 has been topped... by Half Life 2: Episode II. Other than that it's still on top.

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I agree. I don't know what is so special about crysis.
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#21 StatusShuffle
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[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Crysis is really overrated. Good, but overrated. And Half Life 2 has been topped... by Half Life 2: Episode II. Other than that it's still on top.

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I agree. I don't know what is so special about crysis.

Form what I see more people talk about Crysis's visuals than the actual game. Half-Life 2 IMO has that award winning gameplay.
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Half life 2 is the best FPS ever made, although I had lots of fun with Medal of Honour Allied Assault too, which comes in at a close second.

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#23 Ricardomz
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Crysis is superior in some points. Half-life is superior in others.

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#24 cyborg100000
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I think HL1 and 2 are best FPS' of all time, I think I like HL1 better though because the shooting's better and the environments are more interesting.

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#26 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"]half life 2 best fps? lol its not even better than the first half lifeblackhawk9795

Half-life better than Half-life 2? lol, it is not better than Half-life 2

it certainly is
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#27 Socijalisticka
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- There is no greatest FPS ever

- HL2 isn't a FPS

[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Crysis is really overrated. Good, but overrated. And Half Life 2 has been topped... by Half Life 2: Episode II. Other than that it's still on top.

unrealtron

I agree. I don't know what is so special about crysis.

Gunplay + Variety in playstyle choices + Environments suited to playstyles + Fantastic AI + Exceptional physics resulting in gunfights all the more intense

You really can't get much better than that (except perhaps FEAR when it comes to gunplay/AI).

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#28 blackhawk9795
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Half life 2 isn't an FPS? wat

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#29 ZombieKiller7
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HL2 was an amazing journey.

Lots of good FPS out there.

Doom 3 was really good. Rage gunplay felt awesome. Hell I loved gunning schit down in FO3 with the minigun.

R6 Vegas 1 & 2 are heavily underrated shooters. Heavily. Has some of the best FPS "look and feel" ever.

Crysis 2 was a fun romp but wasn't nothin special.

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I think Deus Ex is my favorite FPS of all.

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- HL2 isn't a FPSSocijalisticka

How so?

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[QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]- HL2 isn't a FPSc_rake

How so?

I see the gunplay as an inevitability rather than the focus. The game constantly introduces you to new elements, therefore you're never doing the same thing for too long. I feel the drive of the game to be the ever-shifting gameplay. Just compare it to HL, whose gameplay (that being solelythe gunplay) remains consistent throughout the game. The variation comes in the setpieces and not the gameplay. HL2 is utterly distinctive in that regard.

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#33 MonkeySpot
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Both "Crysis" games, AND "Half-Life 2", blow stray dogs for wine change... Sooo...

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#34 MLBknights58
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[QUOTE="c_rake"]

[QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]- HL2 isn't a FPSSocijalisticka

How so?

I see the gunplay as an inevitability rather than the focus. The game constantly introduces you to new elements, therefore you're never doing the same thing for too long. I feel the drive of the game to be the ever-shifting gameplay. Just compare it to HL, whose gameplay (that being solelythe gunplay) remains consistent throughout the game. The variation comes in the setpieces and not the gameplay. HL2 is utterly distinctive in that regard.

I thought to myself "There's no way he can defend this claim of HL2 not being an FPS, he's doomed."

I do actually see your point though, very well said. HL2 includes much more than just shooting, however gunplay is still the central and most prominent element throughout the entire game, despite the shifting and new elements it introduces.

Still, made me a believer, but I have to disagree.

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#35 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="unrealtron"][QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Crysis is really overrated. Good, but overrated. And Half Life 2 has been topped... by Half Life 2: Episode II. Other than that it's still on top.

StatusShuffle
I agree. I don't know what is so special about crysis.

Form what I see more people talk about Crysis's visuals than the actual game. Half-Life 2 IMO has that award winning gameplay.

Barely. Its an amazing game, but alot more becauuse of the atmosphere and story than the gameplay. Combat is apart from the gravity gun and the enviromental stuff is uninteresting, vehicles are nightmareish and the difficulty has an odd progression imo. Great game nontheless.
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I like Crysis more. It's much more memorable with huge fights and setpieces, like when the mountain on the island just blows up six miles away. Or the whole spaceship level, there are lots of just really cool missions. Even the characters are better and more developed, and i think the story is much much better. Although story, character development, narrative are things that are pretty underdeveloped in BOTH games. But much of it is about what a monumental DISAPPOINTMENT Half-Life 2 was. Where Crysis i felt far exceded its expectations when it came out. Crysis was just great! In detail they are both pretty equal as shooters, Very different so you can't compare them directly, really. But GORDON FREEMAN DOESNT TALK. In HL2 i really dont know what the hell i'm doing, or what it's about half the time. So why am i trying to save this guy from the prison Nova Prospekt? Who is he and what does he mean to me anyway? CRAP Where Crysis at least has a cheesy B-movie story - The aliens are coming, find out more about them, and we have to kill them. And the graphics did everything for Crysis, it really relied on cool graphics completely. I wouldn't have liked it if the graphics weren't what they are. I Like HL2 alot because it's so varied and it's a unique game. NEITHER is the best game in any genre.
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I know they want Gordon to not talk for alot of reasons, but you cant tell me it doesnt hurt the story and narrative. People are saying Crysis had a bad story.. but it still has better narrative and story than Half Life by far. You have to be dellusional to think HL2 even is intended to have a story that matters. They've made a game thats just perpetual and doesnt have to be wrapped up ever.
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#38 Socijalisticka
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[QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]

[QUOTE="c_rake"]

How so?

MLBknights58

I see the gunplay as an inevitability rather than the focus. The game constantly introduces you to new elements, therefore you're never doing the same thing for too long. I feel the drive of the game to be the ever-shifting gameplay. Just compare it to HL, whose gameplay (that being solelythe gunplay) remains consistent throughout the game. The variation comes in the setpieces and not the gameplay. HL2 is utterly distinctive in that regard.

I thought to myself "There's no way he can defend this claim of HL2 not being an FPS, he's doomed."

I do actually see your point though, very well said. HL2 includes much more than just shooting, however gunplay is still the central and most prominent element throughout the entire game, despite the shifting and new elements it introduces.

Still, made me a believer, but I have to disagree.

Quite understandable. I only find it vital that people distinguish first-person shooter from merely gunplay inherent in a game within a first-person perspective. System Shock 2 cannot be critiqued under the same terms as Serious Sam. It would be unfair to do the same for HL2.

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#39 wizdom
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And why are the contenders for best FPS of all only Crysis and Half Life 2?

Besides, Far Cry is better than Crysis... which I know I'm in the minority with that opinion, but whatever.

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I think most gamers think Half life 2 is the best shooter of all time, its hard to argue with it, but to me its either that or Halo.
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#40 jackfruitchips
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HL2 was not that great, let alone the crown of FPS.

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#41 DraugenCP
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Crysis amazed gamers with its open world gameplay but failed in personality, characters, gunplay, mechanics, and felt shallow.StatusShuffle


No.

And no. HL2 was a very important game, but I can think of quite a few shooters that toppled it since. Crysis is but one of them. HL2's main problem is the sucky gunplay and braindead AI. Excusable in its day, but it really drags the game down if you start comparing it to more recent titles.

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#42 DraugenCP
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Crysis has visuals and nothing more. As a game itself it's not particularly great. Some neat mechanics and level design but it gets boring fast without pretty mods to stare at. It's story is extremely weak too.

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So is HL2's story. If you're playing FPS for story, you're doing it wrong anyway. There are only a handful with decent stories.

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#43 speedfog
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For me RTCW or Quake 3 for best FPS of all. Matter of taste/ opinions