Fallout 3 concern.

Ummm. Yeah.

Does this mean Fallout 3 can be beaten in as little as an Hour and Fifteen minutes?!

I know this was a speed run. I know it was a developer and tester, but 1:15?!

I know there will be lots of replayability, but the plot only has 1:15 worth of storyline to play through?

Anyone else get this impression from this blog?

Why in the world would they publicize something like this? I don't get it!?Phantom_Leo

Because the first Fallout is a 30 hours game which can be completed in 11 minutes. It's part of the charm.

Edit: 9 minutes 19 seconds if you don't count the character creation.

Hmmm interesting find. However it does say.

Coincidentally, the victory time was nearly identical to the winning time of the Oblivion champion, Chris.Linked Blog Page

And I thought Oblivion lasted a while, with a ton of content to see.

Also remember these guys know the game inside out. They probably skipped every possible bit of dialogue, combat, terrain, quests, everything they could have. There was mention of one guy knowing a trick, so i'm sure they used their knowledge of the game to expedite their progress in ways people won't find out about for a while.

I have to agree that does seem really short but if it's similar to the Oblivion speed run time ( I had no idea it could be beaten that quickly either ) then I'm not too worried.

i wouldnt be too worried. they obviously cut out any joy in savoring the moment during the game. im sure there will be plenty of sidequests (we still dont know if they'll be any good, but thats just another thing that completion time cant tell you). and if the overworld is done properly, there should be a good portion of time just wandering around. hopefully, there will be compelling reasons to replay the game as well.

i dont think a random number like some person's comletion time can say very much about a game.

And I still can't get the first two Fallouts from GOG! Damn. :xSteelAttack

[QUOTE="SteelAttack"]And I still can't get the first two Fallouts from GOG! Damn. :xGT90

I hate you. :P

Both my CC won't go through. It's not really a site problem. Funny thing is, I can get things from Steam with those very same cards without any issue.

[QUOTE="GT90"][QUOTE="SteelAttack"]And I still can't get the first two Fallouts from GOG! Damn. :xSteelAttack

I hate you. :P

Both my CC won't go through. It's not really a site problem. Funny thing is, I can get things from Steam with those very same cards without any issue.

That really sucks, I used my debit card and it went right through, it's also the card I use on Steam(I think). You just have to wait a while I guess.

Its going to be an amazing game.
And I highly doubt that you would beat it that fast because you lack the information that the developers capitalized on when they were doing their speed run.
Wouldnt worry too much. I loved Fallout and Fallout 2

As stated above, you can do a speed run of the original fallout in like 10 minutes, but it's really a 30 hour game.

This is a non issue.

So if they can beat it that quickly - does that mean that enemies will level up with you like they did in Oblivion? Because that would totally suck.Magnol49

Hmmm interesting find. However it does say.

[QUOTE="Linked Blog Page"]Coincidentally, the victory time was nearly identical to the winning time of the Oblivion champion, Chris.BBQDelicious

And I thought Oblivion lasted a while, with a ton of content to see.

Also remember these guys know the game inside out. They probably skipped every possible bit of dialogue, combat, terrain, quests, everything they could have. There was mention of one guy knowing a trick, so i'm sure they used their knowledge of the game to expedite their progress in ways people won't find out about for a while.

I have to agree that does seem really short but if it's similar to the Oblivion speed run time ( I had no idea it could be beaten that quickly either ) then I'm not too worried.

Ya I agree oblivion took me a long time doing everything and if Fallout 3 is anything like Oblivion I will be happy

So if they can beat it that quickly - does that mean that enemies will level up with you like they did in Oblivion? Because that would totally suck.Magnol49

bethesda is trying for a happy medium between both sides on the issue (though ive never heard of anybody that liked enemies leveling along with the player). the enemies in an area level up along with you until you reach their area. then they stay like that and you can go level up somewhere if you want.

So if they can beat it that quickly - does that mean that enemies will level up with you like they did in Oblivion? Because that would totally suck.Magnol49

As has been said in many interviews with bethesday, there will be no scaleable leveling.

[QUOTE="Magnol49"]So if they can beat it that quickly - does that mean that enemies will level up with you like they did in Oblivion? Because that would totally suck.UT_Wrestler

As has been said in many interviews with bethesday, there will be no scaleable leveling.

thats atleast the 3rd time today that ive heard that there will be absolutely no scaleable leveling in fallout 3 though ive never seen an article to suggest that. i read in a gs article just after fallout 3's announcement that it would be a hybrid system. would you mind posting a link? im not saying dont believe you (ive heard it so many times that im sure you guys arent just pulling it out of your asses), its just that id like to hear it frm the developer. thanks if you can.

[QUOTE="Magnol49"]So if they can beat it that quickly - does that mean that enemies will level up with you like they did in Oblivion? Because that would totally suck.UT_Wrestler

As has been said in many interviews with bethesday, there will be no scaleable leveling.

"-- Yes, there is a variation of level scaling used to control the difficulty of the main quest, so you can proceed through the game's main story at any time and have a good deal of it (not all) be balanced for to your level and abilities.

-- Other areas are "tethered" to certain levels

-- There are places in the Wasteland where, if you're not careful, you'll certainly get your ass handed to you. Best to leave and come back when you're better equipped/more skilled. Funny -- just a half hour ago, our effects artist, Grant Struthers, told me this awesome story about how he watched a Deathclaw just rip this (well armored) NPC to pieces...

-- That said, if you leave an area that's too difficult, and then return later, no you won't find that everything has increased in level, and it's now even tougher.

-- No, Raiders won't eventually be equipped with Power Armor."

Link. Then there's the town level cap thing as described here, Hines stating they'd level scale when they lock you in an area and Canard PC killing 3 super mutants in the same encounter at level 3 with a baseball bat.

In short - yes, there's level scaling, but not as much as Oblivion.

That sounds like it could be ideal.

It lets people who wants to advance in the main story now advance at their own pace, with no need to grind. At the same time, for the more harcore players, you'll have to work your way up to reach the depths of the hard content. Sounds like a great idea to me.

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]

[QUOTE="Magnol49"]So if they can beat it that quickly - does that mean that enemies will level up with you like they did in Oblivion? Because that would totally suck.RobbieH1234

As has been said in many interviews with bethesday, there will be no scaleable leveling.

"-- Yes, there is a variation of level scaling used to control the difficulty of the main quest, so you can proceed through the game's main story at any time and have a good deal of it (not all) be balanced for to your level and abilities.

-- Other areas are "tethered" to certain levels

-- There are places in the Wasteland where, if you're not careful, you'll certainly get your ass handed to you. Best to leave and come back when you're better equipped/more skilled. Funny -- just a half hour ago, our effects artist, Grant Struthers, told me this awesome story about how he watched a Deathclaw just rip this (well armored) NPC to pieces...

-- That said, if you leave an area that's too difficult, and then return later, no you won't find that everything has increased in level, and it's now even tougher.

-- No, Raiders won't eventually be equipped with Power Armor."

Link. Then there's the town level cap thing as described here, Hines stating they'd level scale when they lock you in an area and Canard PC killing 3 super mutants in the same encounter at level 3 with a baseball bat.

In short - yes, there's level scaling, but not as much as Oblivion.

I wouldn't even consider that level scaling, I think that is how the main quest should be, to avoid grinding.

[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]

[QUOTE="Magnol49"]So if they can beat it that quickly - does that mean that enemies will level up with you like they did in Oblivion? Because that would totally suck.HiResDes

As has been said in many interviews with bethesday, there will be no scaleable leveling.

"-- Yes, there is a variation of level scaling used to control the difficulty of the main quest, so you can proceed through the game's main story at any time and have a good deal of it (not all) be balanced for to your level and abilities.

-- Other areas are "tethered" to certain levels

-- There are places in the Wasteland where, if you're not careful, you'll certainly get your ass handed to you. Best to leave and come back when you're better equipped/more skilled. Funny -- just a half hour ago, our effects artist, Grant Struthers, told me this awesome story about how he watched a Deathclaw just rip this (well armored) NPC to pieces...

-- That said, if you leave an area that's too difficult, and then return later, no you won't find that everything has increased in level, and it's now even tougher.

-- No, Raiders won't eventually be equipped with Power Armor."

Link. Then there's the town level cap thing as described here, Hines stating they'd level scale when they lock you in an area and Canard PC killing 3 super mutants in the same encounter at level 3 with a baseball bat.

In short - yes, there's level scaling, but not as much as Oblivion.

I wouldn't even consider that level scaling, I think that is how the main quest should be, to avoid grinding.

I think that's how it was in morrowind. for the most part things like those annoying Cliff Racers didn't appear in most parts until you were a certain level and as you advanced in level they just got diseased or blighted to make them more difficult.

however there were some areas that were key points such as daedric shrines and 6th house lairs that were always stocked with foes no matter if you went there level 1 or 30