Ok this has probably been asked a million times before but well, after all this time lets see if we see a change in opinions.
So which one is better Fallout 3 or New Vegas?
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Ok this has probably been asked a million times before but well, after all this time lets see if we see a change in opinions.
So which one is better Fallout 3 or New Vegas?
I liked Fallout 3 a whole lot better. There's a reason New Vegas isn't called Fallout 4 - they just recycled all the graphics from Fallout 3 to milk more cash out of it. And they finally finished the development of it about 6 months after they released it :roll:
Fallout 3 is better. It was a breath of fresh air and it had a better atmosphere than NV.
Fallout NV is basically just more of the same, with a few tweaks/few new elements, different story and a lame desert setting.
Obsidian wankers will try to argue otherwise, but FONV wasn't much of an improvement over FO3. And if you put a lot of hours into FO3 (like I did), the games feel much more alike than they should.
I like both games. But I enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot more.
I'd say Fallout 3. The writing and voice actingin New Vegas are much better, and I do like the faction system and improved customization options, but its not as epic. Fallout 3's environment was MUCH better and cooler, New Vegas feels small and fake and doesn't have that same hopeless and gigantic feel of the Capital Wasteland, while it also ended up being more fun to explore and felt more like a survival game (even if NV did add hardcore mode).
I'd say the thing that really edges it out would be the much better introduction sequence and lack of bugs, as well as Liam Neeson. I love Feliica Day, Wayne Newton, Matthew Perry and Zachary Levi and overall thought that any one of the awesome companions in New Vegas were better then all the companions in every Bethesda game combined, but Liam Neeson as my dad? The guy who played Zeus, father of Kratos and antagonist in Clash of the Titans, superspy killer of half of Paris' underworld criminals, trainer of Ben Kenobi and founder of the Jedi ghost form, and trainer of freaking Batman!? That is just the best thing ever.
So in short, Fallout 3 was more addicting and more cohesive as an experience, New Vegas was also fun but didn't feel like a gigantic step up for the series (with the animations and graphics notably dated by the time of NV) and way too damn buggy.
I enjoyed Fallout 3 more due to the emotional context. Starting off by being born, growing up in the vault and then heading out to find your character's dad helped to form an emotional connection to the character you were playing. I cared a lot about my character, I wanted to help her find her dad, I shared in her grief as well as her fears and hopes.
New Vegas is a good game, but I don't find revenge to be as much of a motive compared to trying to survive in a wasteland of the dead. Also I didn't enjoy the political angle of New vegas all that much, neither side was any better than the other, they were all too full of themselves.
Fallout 3 also used emotion in other aspects, like the skeltons in the houses at Minefield, the ruins and the way the game's sun would rise and set on the wasteland. Add that with the music and it was a very emotional game.
New Vegas was better in every possible way to FO3.
-real choices
-multiple solutions to main quest
-followers had fleshed out backgrounds
-combat was harder. Once you reached 20ish level on FO3 combat was ridiculously easy
-no real good or bad guys. Each faction was morally grey
-more crafting
-hardcore mode
I can sympathize with people saying New Vegas was too similar to FO3, but I think they're letting their nostalgia of playing an experience that was so new at the time cloud their judgement.
I enjoyed New Vegas more. I really liked the faction system and how you made enemies depending on who you wanted to ally with, and the story was pretty interesting. Hardcore mode was an awesome addition as well, as one thing I really disliked about Fallout 3 was how easy it was. The few tweaks New Vegas made to the combat and RPG elements really made an already good game into a great one, imo.
I can understand why people like Fallout 3 more, and I certainly enjoyed it, but New Vegas was just more for me. One of my pet peeves with modern RPGs is that you can make a character that's pretty much great at everything. In Fallout 3, my character was pretty adept at everything, but I didn't really have that option in New Vegas. My character had flaws and I had to play accordingly.
And I never felt threatened in Fallout 3. It's a game about surviving in this harsh wasteland but it's incredibly easy. Finding a powerful gun right off the bat is a simple task, and considering you're invulnerable during VATS you can go toe-to-toe with a Deathclaw and be completely fine. I was really happy when the Deathclaw in New Vegas were a huge threat.
Fallout 3 had a few more memorable moments though. The Dunwich building is one of my favorite moments this gen, and Rivet City and exploring the DC ruins was pretty cool. The Enclave showing up was nice too. I just enjoyed New Vegas more. I wish they'd take the tweaks like factions, hardcore mode, and vulnerability during VATS and add it to Fallout 3 because then it might be a closer contest.
Fallout New Vegas
They are both great games. FNV was essentially more of the same but it was a better version of Fallout than what Fallout 3 delivered. The people that favor F3 are people who need to take off their nostalgia goggles.
I enjoyed New Vegas more. I really liked the faction system and how you made enemies depending on who you wanted to ally with, and the story was pretty interesting. Hardcore mode was an awesome addition as well, as one thing I really disliked about Fallout 3 was how easy it was. The few tweaks New Vegas made to the combat and RPG elements really made an already good game into a great one, imo.
I can understand why people like Fallout 3 more, and I certainly enjoyed it, but New Vegas was just more for me. One of my pet peeves with modern RPGs is that you can make a character that's pretty much great at everything. In Fallout 3, my character was pretty adept at everything, but I didn't really have that option in New Vegas. My character had flaws and I had to play accordingly.
And I never felt threatened in Fallout 3. It's a game about surviving in this harsh wasteland but it's incredibly easy. Finding a powerful gun right off the bat is a simple task, and considering you're invulnerable during VATS you can go toe-to-toe with a Deathclaw and be completely fine. I was really happy when the Deathclaw in New Vegas were a huge threat.
Fallout 3 had a few more memorable moments though. The Dunwich building is one of my favorite moments this gen, and Rivet City and exploring the DC ruins was pretty cool. The Enclave showing up was nice too. I just enjoyed New Vegas more. I wish they'd take the tweaks like factions, hardcore mode, and vulnerability during VATS and add it to Fallout 3 because then it might be a closer contest.
IndianaPwns39
All great points. I just wish Bethesda would let us know SOMETHING about FO4 (whether it's going to be a next gen launch title or not). Also who will be making it. If Bethesda is making it I won't bother getting my hopes too high. If Obsidian makes it.....:D
I enjoyed fall out 3 so much more then NV that I almost don't want to buy the new fall out when it comes out!trentmiles101who the hell are you and why do you have zero posts? also how the hell does ^ make sense to you?
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I enjoyed New Vegas more. I really liked the faction system and how you made enemies depending on who you wanted to ally with, and the story was pretty interesting. Hardcore mode was an awesome addition as well, as one thing I really disliked about Fallout 3 was how easy it was. The few tweaks New Vegas made to the combat and RPG elements really made an already good game into a great one, imo.
I can understand why people like Fallout 3 more, and I certainly enjoyed it, but New Vegas was just more for me. One of my pet peeves with modern RPGs is that you can make a character that's pretty much great at everything. In Fallout 3, my character was pretty adept at everything, but I didn't really have that option in New Vegas. My character had flaws and I had to play accordingly.
And I never felt threatened in Fallout 3. It's a game about surviving in this harsh wasteland but it's incredibly easy. Finding a powerful gun right off the bat is a simple task, and considering you're invulnerable during VATS you can go toe-to-toe with a Deathclaw and be completely fine. I was really happy when the Deathclaw in New Vegas were a huge threat.
Fallout 3 had a few more memorable moments though. The Dunwich building is one of my favorite moments this gen, and Rivet City and exploring the DC ruins was pretty cool. The Enclave showing up was nice too. I just enjoyed New Vegas more. I wish they'd take the tweaks like factions, hardcore mode, and vulnerability during VATS and add it to Fallout 3 because then it might be a closer contest.
Boddicker
All great points. I just wish Bethesda would let us know SOMETHING about FO4 (whether it's going to be a next gen launch title or not). Also who will be making it. If Bethesda is making it I won't bother getting my hopes too high. If Obsidian makes it.....:D
I'm guessing Bethesda will be making it, and then Obsidian will handle a semi-sequel. Obsidian seems to follow a lot of bigger developers, and often times I've preferred their games.
My only issue is that Obsidian is constantly criticized for the bugs in their games, but other devs rarely are. I liked Skyrim, but it was plagued with bugs regardless of platform and not a single reviewer mentioned it. Yet Gamespot's review for the console version of New Vegas mentions them, and it got a full extra point because of how much better the PC version ran.
I enjoyed exploration more in FO3, but I liked the characters, story, plot, and game mechanics more in NV.
Very well said. I too could not connect with my character in New Vegas. Where as I felt pretty much involved in fallout 3, exactly because of the fact that i followed my characters life right from his/her birth through his teenages and finally when i get to leave the vault in search of my character's father the story was too personal and immersive.I enjoyed Fallout 3 more due to the emotional context. Starting off by being born, growing up in the vault and then heading out to find your character's dad helped to form an emotional connection to the character you were playing. I cared a lot about my character, I wanted to help her find her dad, I shared in her grief as well as her fears and hopes.
New Vegas is a good game, but I don't find revenge to be as much of a motive compared to trying to survive in a wasteland of the dead. Also I didn't enjoy the political angle of New vegas all that much, neither side was any better than the other, they were all too full of themselves.
Fallout 3 also used emotion in other aspects, like the skeltons in the houses at Minefield, the ruins and the way the game's sun would rise and set on the wasteland. Add that with the music and it was a very emotional game.
Smokescreened84
[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Very well said. I too could not connect with my character in New Vegas. Where as I felt pretty much involved in fallout 3, exactly because of the fact that i followed my characters life right from his/her birth through his teenages and finally when i get to leave the vault in search of my character's father the story was too personal and immersive.I enjoyed Fallout 3 more due to the emotional context. Starting off by being born, growing up in the vault and then heading out to find your character's dad helped to form an emotional connection to the character you were playing. I cared a lot about my character, I wanted to help her find her dad, I shared in her grief as well as her fears and hopes.
New Vegas is a good game, but I don't find revenge to be as much of a motive compared to trying to survive in a wasteland of the dead. Also I didn't enjoy the political angle of New vegas all that much, neither side was any better than the other, they were all too full of themselves.
Fallout 3 also used emotion in other aspects, like the skeltons in the houses at Minefield, the ruins and the way the game's sun would rise and set on the wasteland. Add that with the music and it was a very emotional game.
Matty_gamer
See, I actually prefer the blank slate approach of New Vegas' courier. I liked giving my character their own background, why they were here and what they were good at before taking the job for whatever reason I came up with.
In Fallout 3, I kind of felt forced to play the good guy. I saw the Lone Wanderer grow up and the friends and family that helped shape him. There never felt like there was a real reason to be a d!ck, it felt so unnatural to play an evil character. Yeah, your dad runs out on you and you start hunting him down but it just never felt natural to do anything. "You ran away on me dad. So I blew up Megaton!" - Ok. If I did anything evil in New Vegas, I could easily imagine a reason why this character was evil. Plus, whenever I did something evil in Fallout 3, nobody seemed to care. You could tell Dad to screw off, and he'll just reply "I'm sorry you feel that way". Real, real emotional stuff.
[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Very well said. I too could not connect with my character in New Vegas. Where as I felt pretty much involved in fallout 3, exactly because of the fact that i followed my characters life right from his/her birth through his teenages and finally when i get to leave the vault in search of my character's father the story was too personal and immersive. I'll admit that I liked the way that Fallout 3 started out but it went to s#$% shortly after that. It takes me more than 20 minutes of stiff animation and scripting to get me emotionally involved in a character so the father figure tugging at my heart strings was never there. What's left of the plot is getting the GECK and saving a water system...it's so original that the two previous Fallouts did the exact same thing many years before. You throw in meaningless choices, a game that made fixing crappy endings popular before ME3, butchering of the Fallout lore and how easy the game was and Fallout 3 ended up being a pretty big disappointment that Obsidian ended up fixing in NV. I don't understand when people say New Vegas is about revenge...it can be but it doesn't have to be. Also if you don't like the factions then f*(^ em both up. New Vegas is a REAL RPG. meaning you do what you want your character to do and the story shifts around that a lot better than what was done in F3I enjoyed Fallout 3 more due to the emotional context. Starting off by being born, growing up in the vault and then heading out to find your character's dad helped to form an emotional connection to the character you were playing. I cared a lot about my character, I wanted to help her find her dad, I shared in her grief as well as her fears and hopes.
New Vegas is a good game, but I don't find revenge to be as much of a motive compared to trying to survive in a wasteland of the dead. Also I didn't enjoy the political angle of New vegas all that much, neither side was any better than the other, they were all too full of themselves.
Fallout 3 also used emotion in other aspects, like the skeltons in the houses at Minefield, the ruins and the way the game's sun would rise and set on the wasteland. Add that with the music and it was a very emotional game.
Matty_gamer
I've put more time into FO3 as I have FO1, FO2 and NV currently. There's stark differences, and I'm outright shocked that they're that noticeable - I was not expecting it - especially in the quality of quests, writing, characters and amount of systems at work (like disguises, a far better reputation system) to outright open endedness. Compared to FO3's 'find dad, it's your destiny'. The setting though I can regard as being divisive.Obsidian wankers will try to argue otherwise, but FONV wasn't much of an improvement over FO3. And if you put a lot of hours into FO3 (like I did), the games feel much more alike than they should.
I like both games. But I enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot more.
Tikeio
fallout 3 cause it didnt corrupt my data and it wasnt buggy
i like to think of NV like skyrim
seeing nothing but snow is boring. seeing nothing but desert is boring
though the like gas mask trenchcoat armor in NV is pretty badass
I agree completely with this. ^^Fallout 3 is better. It was a breath of fresh air and it had a better atmosphere than NV.
Fallout NV is basically just more of the same, with a few tweaks/few new elements, different story and a lame desert setting.
Obsidian wankers will try to argue otherwise, but FONV wasn't much of an improvement over FO3. And if you put a lot of hours into FO3 (like I did), the games feel much more alike than they should.
I like both games. But I enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot more.
Tikeio
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Skyrim is better
cfstar
No.
OT: New Vegas. Specially for PC, considering there is a mod that allows you to play FO3 with New Vegas, rendering it obsolete.
Even if you can carry the items and stats from mojave over to the wasteland and play parts from both games interchangeably. It doesn't render the comparison obsolete. Considering that you posted such a thing suggests that you like the PC a bit too much? :p While I agree that PC is now a far superior platform for playing either of the games or as you said only platform to play both games simultaneously. This is Not the thread to discuss such a thing. Go to system wars if you want that.Two reasons I have to go with FO3 over NV:
1. The bugs at launch were unforgivable. It got to a point where I just wasn't enjoying the game entirely due to major and minor bugs at every turn. I can forgive a lot of bugs in a game of that type. But with NV you were constantly being reminded of the fact that the game should of spent another 2 months in beta.
2. I had poured over 150 hours in FO3 across 3 characters. After spending so much time in the game, NV just didn't feel like anything special. It had a small handful of new gameplay wrinkles and that's about it. Though in all fairness I only played it for around 15 hours and haven't found the time to go back and play the game in earnest. So I can't comment about the story or moral narrative, ect.
Fallout 3, without a doubt. It had a far more interesting world to explore. The only thing New Vegas had going for it was the faction system.
Fallout 3 is better. It was a breath of fresh air and it had a better atmosphere than NV.
Fallout NV is basically just more of the same, with a few tweaks/few new elements, different story and a lame desert setting.
Obsidian wankers will try to argue otherwise, but FONV wasn't much of an improvement over FO3. And if you put a lot of hours into FO3 (like I did), the games feel much more alike than they should.
I like both games. But I enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot more.
Tikeio
I feel this response saves me from having to say everything this man just said again.
[QUOTE="Tikeio"]I agree completely with this. ^^ You lose all right to have that profile picture.Fallout 3 is better. It was a breath of fresh air and it had a better atmosphere than NV.
Fallout NV is basically just more of the same, with a few tweaks/few new elements, different story and a lame desert setting.
Obsidian wankers will try to argue otherwise, but FONV wasn't much of an improvement over FO3. And if you put a lot of hours into FO3 (like I did), the games feel much more alike than they should.
I like both games. But I enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot more.
deadpeasant
I think I enjoyed NV more as it has a lot more interesting locations, dialogue and characters. I also found it challenging the whole way through whereas Fallout 3 you could literally take out everyone and everything in the entire game at once with ease.
I really enjoyed FO3 too as it felt more post-apocalyptic, lonely, and it was the first next gen Fallout game so it felt more refreshing.
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