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#1 memphishigh
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Do you limit the games that you play because of your faith?
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#2 DarkCatalyst
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As a former Christian (LDS), this was definitely a matter I grappled with, but it, among what eventually became several other issues, led to my departure from the church.
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#3 UpInFlames
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Why would I?
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No More Heroes is in my sig and my icon is from MadWorld....obviously I don't :P.
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#5 malkiko
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As a conservative, evangelical, non-denominational Christian, I avoid most video games. I tend to play games as long they are not offensive, vulgar, or violent. That means no M-rated, and most T-rated games.
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#6 Syaz1
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i know this thread is for christians, but i want to state my opinion anyway. i slightly limit what kind of games i play due to my faith. i don't mind overuse of vulgar words and over-the-top violence, but i try to stay away from games with too much sexual contents. even in gta 4, i try not to go to the strip club often.
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#7 Buri_chan
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Why would I?UpInFlames

My sentiments exactly.

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#8 Jedifro
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As a Christian, it can be a tough call on what games I should be playing. I am still working on it, but here are my thoughts on it based on an Email I wrote to someone who had the same question: While the Bible may not specifically have anything to say about videogames, it does have something to say about how we are supposed to live our lives for God. Phil. 4:8 says it clear enough: Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good report, whatever things have virtue, whatever is praiseworthy, dwell on these things. People misuse this verse to flame all media, especially videogames, claiming that they are just violence simulators that destroy our brains. But this is not what I see in this passage, here is my take: This verse is pretty much asking: Is this something really worth pursuing? Is it well done? Is it true? God is not against videogames. Contrary to what people may think, God wants us to enjoy the life He has given us. The main thing is just knowing how to discern which games are worth playing. For me, reading about games through sites like gamespot and others gives me a good idea on which games are worth my time. If it is just a game that is violent for the sake of being violent, no thanks. If it is a game that treats women like objects waiting to be used, nope. So games like the Grand Theft Auto series(and its many copycats) are not my type of games.

Just to legitimize myself, I am not a Nintendo fanboy who only plays the kiddy titles. While I still enjoy some of the classic Nintendo titles, I do own a 360 and enjoy playing games on it as well. Check out my profile if you want.

Take this as you will, I am still trying to figure these things out. Any responses or questions would be appreciated.

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#9 Mike1978Smith
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The only game I've ever stayed away from is GTA. It's not really about my faith, either, because I see games in the same light as movies and books... they are fiction entertainment and shouldn't be the sources of your morality.

But GTA, I just found uncalled for. My first encounter with it was a buddy of mine demonstrating how he could rent a hooker, park in an alley to do their thing, and then he beat her to death with a baseball bat afterwords to get his money back... all the while laughing like it was the funniest thing he'd ever seen. I found it distasteful and disturbing... Turned me off to the entire series.

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#10 judog1
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No, I don't see why I should, unless it's something offensive in which case, I wouldn't play anyways.
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Very good question and responses. I wondered that as well. Having a 14 year old step-son he's still only on T games, exception Halo series, should be T anyways. If I were a Christian I don't think I would change my gaming habits, it's just entertainment.
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#13 Mawy_Golomb
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[QUOTE="Jedifro"]

As a Christian, it can be a tough call on what games I should be playing. I am still working on it, but here are my thoughts on it based on an Email I wrote to someone who had the same question: While the Bible may not specifically have anything to say about videogames, it does have something to say about how we are supposed to live our lives for God. Phil. 4:8 says it clear enough: Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good report, whatever things have virtue, whatever is praiseworthy, dwell on these things. People misuse this verse to flame all media, especially videogames, claiming that they are just violence simulators that destroy our brains. But this is not what I see in this passage, here is my take: This verse is pretty much asking: Is this something really worth pursuing? Is it well done? Is it true? God is not against videogames. Contrary to what people may think, God wants us to enjoy the life He has given us. The main thing is just knowing how to discern which games are worth playing. For me, reading about games through sites like gamespot and others gives me a good idea on which games are worth my time. If it is just a game that is violent for the sake of being violent, no thanks. If it is a game that treats women like objects waiting to be used, nope. So games like the Grand Theft Auto series(and its many copycats) are not my type of games.

Just to legitimize myself, I am not a Nintendo fanboy who only plays the kiddy titles. While I still enjoy some of the classic Nintendo titles, I do own a 360 and enjoy playing games on it as well. Check out my profile if you want.

Take this as you will, I am still trying to figure these things out. Any responses or questions would be appreciated.

Hey, we're not so different in terms of our beliefs. As I've been growing more found of morality and more religious (a Roman Catholic), I have begun to look at games that I've previously played and games that I've never played, with a whole new perspective. Before, I used to be someone who enjoyed games, mostly due to the fact that I found violence fun. When I came across noir movies and anti-war films, they were so powerful that they helped change my ways of thinking. Even the Metal Gear franchise has shown how horrible violence can be (even if it doesn't bash it as hard as movies like Ran by Akira Kurosawa, or like Saving Private Ryan). As a result, I grew distasteful in sports like wrestling and boxing (blood sports), which only show that society has not changed much, despite gladiatorial combat not being around anymore. Franchises that deal so much with violence, for the sake of violence, are the ones that I grew to hate, too. These games include GTA, Mortal Kombat, and many others. Even things like gambling and racing began to look immoral, in my eyes, due to the fact that they can really ruin people's lives (death, homelessness, etc.). There are only certain genres of video games that I will consider playing, and that can be any genre, except sports (would rather play outside than watch/play one), racing (reminds me of the victims that died and were incredibly injured in certain events), and fighting (relies on gambling, pride, and the glorification of violence, rather than to show someone defend one's self from a dangerous situation). Most mainstream games and things of mass media are deceiving, since they usually include stereotypes, discrimination (ageism, sexism, racism, etc.), and other horrible things, which are more leaning towards evil and fantasy, rather than reality. My belief is that when we visit a reality aside from our main reality, we should try to only do so, not just for relaxing, but to learn lessons that can later be applied to one's main reality. This is perhaps the most meaningful kind of escapism, unlike the kind which most people take, which is for the sake of fun. Thinking only about having fun can lead to addictions, so I make sure to limit my play time and my time spent on doing other things. The only serious addiction that I have is the internet. It's filled with so much information (a lot that is deceiving, coming from mass media) that it can be so hard to avoid staying on the computer for less than 2 hours on one's own free time .
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Well, as a (lazy) Roman Catholic, my faith only says I need be present at church once a week, which is anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour and a half. However you practice your spirituality outside of that is of your own accord.

Even if I were more devout, I know I'd have time to play games should I wish.

That and I have no moral disagreement with many games I play. Some games preach tolerance and compassion for others and about the value of life and friendship (I'm talking about things like Mass Effect, Persona 3 and 4, and Metal Gear Solid). While clearly violence is involved, but the overall goal of these titles is to preserve life and that of your friends and fellow man. Christians would take the holy land back by force, so engaging in a fictitious game that has good morals in the end would not be contrary to living a good life. Who is to say what one does is exactly as God specifies.

This gets down to the core of what religion is, and I don't want to go there, but personally I have no reservations about my video game playing when it comes to religion.

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I'm a pretty strong Christian (Protestant), but I guess this question is more or less the same as "Do you watch R-rated movies?" I'm still trying to figure out the answer, but right now I believe that as long as I don't integrate any of the themes into my life (for example, swearing after playing GTAIV) then it's fine. Of the "mature" themes found in games, though, I feel that violence is by far the least severe. Like i said, as long as the violence in the games you play doesn't translate into real-life violent tendencies, I think it's fine. I almost lose respect for people who limit themselves to Mario because it's "clean". The Bible itself contains themes of adultery, murder, and violence, and to shelter yourself from those ideas is (in my opinion) sort of ignorant.
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#17 PhilMargera
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Christians only put on a facade of purity. In reality they indulge in filthier things that "faithless" people would even think about. My aunt pulled her kids out of her phony church when the Priest was caught soliciting and undercover police officer in a park bathroom this summer.
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#18 GamerEternal
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You know, as a Christian I used to care about all that crap. Then I realized, everybody is on their own journey. Personally, I try to stay away from porn and drugs but as far as movies and games go, nobody's perfect. In the Christian sect, Christ was the only perfect man to ever walk the face of the Earth. All I know, is I'm not perfect, so why pretend to be. According to the bible, I'm sinning when I even look at a woman lustfully. Not to mention, all the times, I sin and am not even aware of it. Long ago, I accepted the fact that I'm gonna do, watch and play some ****ed up things. That's just the way it is, why try to hide it. Either, way, God knows and whether he approves or disaprooves, that's God. In the end, I seriously doubt God is going to send me to hell for playing RE or GTA or SR and since all sins are the same and I can never not sin, why bother, I'd rather just pray for forgiveness and accept the fact that I'll always sin, so why try to do the impossible. Justin
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#19 Krusher26
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I completely disagree with the quote by Philmargera. In every major religion, there are going to be bad apples, especially when there are over 1 BILLION followers of said religion. You cannot let a few bugs ruin the entire harvest and you should not be so quick to condemn all Christians because of a few obviously misguided people who chose to divert from the teachings of the Bible. I am by no means perfect and, in fact, many Christians find Christ after leading lives that are filled with all types of sin. There are many people out there who claim to be Christians but are "twice a year" church goers or even those who attend church on Sunday but are merely "Sunday Christians" because their actions do not reflect their beliefs throughout the week. I understand your opinion of Christians in general but ask you to not to rush to judgement because of the actions of a few who should be setting an example.

That being said, I believe that you should not play a video game if you believe it will either lead you away from the Lord's will for your life or adversely affect your relationship with God and lead you to sin. I personally do not play any of the game in the GTA series and tend to avoid games with large amounts of explicit language (F-bombs or S-bombs, or any variation) or high amounts of foul language in general, almost no sexuality/nudity, and overwhelming amounts of blood (such as No More Heroes. My only exception is Ninja Gaiden II). Aside from that, I think most other games are alright and will not cause me to go astray from the desires of the Lord.

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#20 AtomicTangerine
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I am a confirmed Catholic, but I haven't been to church in over a year, believe most of the Bible is made up and that many prophets were mentally ill. That being said, I'm glad this thread is an actual discussion instead of people being mocked for their religious beliefs!

I don't think you guys should let religion alone limit what you allow yourselves to see. However, if you really don't like the themes a game presents to the point you aren't having fun, then why play it? Like I had a friend who loved GTA 3 and Vice City, but just couldn't stand San Andreas cause of all the gangsta rap stuff. That isn't much different than deciding you don't enjoy sex, blood, or cussing in the games you play. However, to claim that limiting yourself to certain games is an issue of morality is taking it to an extreme that I can only respond to with the face palm...