One thing I never understood last gen was the GC bashers. When infact this console was and still is amazing. Lots of platformers, excellent rpgs and fighting games etc....plus the GC's better than the gimmick Wii. (fact) Lots of games were on par with Xbox games. (I'd know because I still own both of them, though the Xbox does offer better graphics at times)...it's durable. (I couldn't keep my 360 on all day or let it fall)...I'm no nintendo fanboy, but the Cube owned.
Gamecube bashers
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I think it's partly due to GameStop selling then for only $29.99. In a lot of people's eyes, when something sells for an incredibly low price then it must mean that it's crap; even if that isn't true like in the Gamecube's case. And now, we can add to that the fact that Wii's are backwards compatible so a lot of people see no use in keeping one. Not even considering collectibility, Gamcube's are worth keeping around IMO because of the Gameboy Player attachment that you can get for only $9.99 at GameStop; it is BY FAR the best way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. The games look better than they ever did on any Game Boy/GBA model.
I think it's partly due to GameStop selling then for only $29.99. In a lot of people's eyes, when something sells for an incredibly low price then it must mean that it's crap; even if that isn't true like in the Gamecube's case. And now, we can add to that the fact that Wii's are backwards compatible so a lot of people see no use in keeping one. Not even considering collectibility, Gamcube's are worth keeping around IMO because of the Gameboy Player attachment that you can get for only $9.99 at GameStop; it is BY FAR the best way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. The games look better than they ever did on any Game Boy/GBA model.
Emerald_Warrior
Yeah. I can avidly remember going to Gamestop and the employees bashed the Cube. Sometimes when I bought games, they'd be like "Wow, I never knew this was for gamecube". Just really shows their ignorance on the console. Anyway, I've never owned the GBA add on for it, but for 10 bucks you can't go wrong.
it is BY FAR the best way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. The games look better than they ever did on any Game Boy/GBA model.Emerald_Warrior
is it portable?
I liked the Gamecube a lot. It has Super Smash Brothers Melee, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia Legends. But that's about it. The PS2 was miles better than the Gamecube AND the Xbox. Nothing can beat the PS2's outstanding library of exclusive games.
During that generation, I got a Gamecube first. I enjoyed Melee and Luigi's Mansion for a while, but then I saw that most of my friends had PS2s, and I was missing out on SO MANY great games. Games like Dark Cloud, Kingdom Hearts and Jak and Daxter.
The Gamecube was pretty good, I'd say that it was worth buying for games like Melee and Tales of Symphonia, but the PS2 blew it out of the water.
It has alot of games worth playing to justify getting one, and they're not even that "kiddie":
Eternal Darkness
Tales of Symphonia
Paper Mario 2
Metroid Prime series
Pikmin
Starfox Adventures
Baton Kaitos
Sonic Adventure series
Skies of Arcadia
Resident Evil 0/1 RE-Make
Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes (Must play for MGS fans)
Though I have to admit that I find Mario Sunshine lackluster and just not worth it.
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"] it is BY FAR the best way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. The games look better than they ever did on any Game Boy/GBA model.
Heirren
is it portable?
It's not, but being portable doesn't make the GB, GBC and GBA the best way to play those games. It's just more pratical so you can play while leaving the confort of your home. At least for playing at home, I agree with him that it is the best way to play them, you can lay back on the couch and play as any other console (I used to have problems when playing GBC while laying down, having to have my arms up holding the GBC in an angle I could see the screen well, and would end up unconfortable), and on top of that, as E_W said, they look much better. You may want to just discard my opinion as I've never actually owned a GC, but a friend of mine does, and he has the adapter, and he usually plays Pokemon on it when I'm over and it looks much better with it.[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"] it is BY FAR the best way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. The games look better than they ever did on any Game Boy/GBA model.
Dudersaper
is it portable?
It's not, but being portable doesn't make the GB, GBC and GBA the best way to play those games. It's just more pratical so you can play while leaving the confort of your home. At least for playing at home, I agree with him that it is the best way to play them, you can lay back on the couch and play as any other console (I used to have problems when playing GBC while laying down, having to have my arms up holding the GBC in an angle I could see the screen well, and would end up unconfortable), and on top of that, as E_W said, they look much better. You may want to just discard my opinion as I've never actually owned a GC, but a friend of mine does, and he has the adapter, and he usually plays Pokemon on it when I'm over and it looks much better with it.I like the adaptors as novelties, but it is not "by far" the best way to play most gba games. In fact, there are times when I have found it cumbersome, as some of the more conosle oriented platformers, especially the ports, limit the overall view of the environment quite a bit.
It's not, but being portable doesn't make the GB, GBC and GBA the best way to play those games. It's just more pratical so you can play while leaving the confort of your home. At least for playing at home, I agree with him that it is the best way to play them, you can lay back on the couch and play as any other console (I used to have problems when playing GBC while laying down, having to have my arms up holding the GBC in an angle I could see the screen well, and would end up unconfortable), and on top of that, as E_W said, they look much better. You may want to just discard my opinion as I've never actually owned a GC, but a friend of mine does, and he has the adapter, and he usually plays Pokemon on it when I'm over and it looks much better with it.[QUOTE="Dudersaper"][QUOTE="Heirren"]
is it portable?
Heirren
I like the adaptors as novelties, but it is not "by far" the best way to play most gba games. In fact, there are times when I have found it cumbersome, as some of the more conosle oriented platformers, especially the ports, limit the overall view of the environment quite a bit.
Yes, it is "by far" better than any other way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. If you can't see the difference, then you're blind. The screen is much bigger, without it getting stetch and warped. The screen is much brighter. The graphics and colors are brighter and more vibrant. And the backgrounds and little details that you might not notice on your Game Boy/GBA screens are easily noticable on the Game Boy Player. ESPECIALLY the original Game Boy games.
And what do you mean by "console oriented platformers" exactly? How is a portable game "console oriented"? As for limiting the view of the enironment...WHAT?! Do you know what you're saying? You see more on the screen at once when playing through the Game Boy Player.
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]It's not, but being portable doesn't make the GB, GBC and GBA the best way to play those games. It's just more pratical so you can play while leaving the confort of your home. At least for playing at home, I agree with him that it is the best way to play them, you can lay back on the couch and play as any other console (I used to have problems when playing GBC while laying down, having to have my arms up holding the GBC in an angle I could see the screen well, and would end up unconfortable), and on top of that, as E_W said, they look much better. You may want to just discard my opinion as I've never actually owned a GC, but a friend of mine does, and he has the adapter, and he usually plays Pokemon on it when I'm over and it looks much better with it.Emerald_Warrior
I like the adaptors as novelties, but it is not "by far" the best way to play most gba games. In fact, there are times when I have found it cumbersome, as some of the more conosle oriented platformers, especially the ports, limit the overall view of the environment quite a bit.
Yes, it is "by far" better than any other way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. If you can't see the difference, then you're blind. The screen is much bigger, without it getting stetch and warped. The screen is much brighter. The graphics and colors are brighter and more vibrant. And the backgrounds and little details that you might not notice on your Game Boy/GBA screens are easily noticable on the Game Boy Player. ESPECIALLY the original Game Boy games.
And what do you mean by "console oriented platformers" exactly? How is a portable game "console oriented"? As for limiting the view of the enironment...WHAT?! Do you know what you're saying? You see more on the screen at once when playing through the Game Boy Player.
A lot of the snes type ports had a more restricted view. Also, graphics just don't matter on a portable. The best GBA games are best played on the SP model. Plain and simple. Why in the world would I want to play a game like Advance Wars on the couch? Different game design for different scenerios. Part of the reason the GBA was so great was because the unit was a TRUE portable in form and also in game design.
I love my Gamecube and still play it regularly
I liked the Gamecube a lot. It has Super Smash Brothers Melee, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia Legends. But that's about it. The PS2 was miles better than the Gamecube AND the Xbox. Nothing can beat the PS2's outstanding library of exclusive games.
During that generation, I got a Gamecube first. I enjoyed Melee and Luigi's Mansion for a while, but then I saw that most of my friends had PS2s, and I was missing out on SO MANY great games. Games like Dark Cloud, Kingdom Hearts and Jak and Daxter.
The Gamecube was pretty good, I'd say that it was worth buying for games like Melee and Tales of Symphonia, but the PS2 blew it out of the water.
GeoffZak
PS2 "blew it out the water"? How so? Graphically, the Cube was much better. As far as game library, yes, the PS2 has more games, but that doesn't make them better games, and then you even included Xbox which makes me think you're just tossing around Sonyisms. Regardless of what you say, it doesn't change the pecking order, Xbox/GC/Ps2/Dc
[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
I liked the Gamecube a lot. It has Super Smash Brothers Melee, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia Legends. But that's about it. The PS2 was miles better than the Gamecube AND the Xbox. Nothing can beat the PS2's outstanding library of exclusive games.
During that generation, I got a Gamecube first. I enjoyed Melee and Luigi's Mansion for a while, but then I saw that most of my friends had PS2s, and I was missing out on SO MANY great games. Games like Dark Cloud, Kingdom Hearts and Jak and Daxter.
The Gamecube was pretty good, I'd say that it was worth buying for games like Melee and Tales of Symphonia, but the PS2 blew it out of the water.
darkdude2k12
PS2 "blew it out the water"? How so? Graphically, the Cube was much better. As far as game library, yes, the PS2 has more games, but that doesn't make them better games, and then you even included Xbox which makes me think you're just tossing around Sonyisms. Regardless of what you say, it doesn't change the pecking order, Xbox/GC/Ps2/Dc
I agree with "more games doesn't make them better", but the PS2 DOES have more good games than the GC and XBox. I'm not bashing any of the two, and they are both graphically superior to the PS2, but you can get so much more good games with a PS2 than you can with the other two. And even though the XBox and GC versions of Multi-plat games are much better looking than the PS2 versions, it doesn't really change the gameplay, so having the PS2 lets you have those games (even though graphically inferior) AND all the great games that are only for PS2. (And please don't come naming lots of GC and XBox games, I know they both have tons of great games and I'm not saying the contrary, but the PS2 just has more of them)
Ive never really encountered much "Gamecube bashing" tbh, mostly online, though it tends to be the same kind childish comments that get made about every other less popular mainstream system.
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"][QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
I liked the Gamecube a lot. It has Super Smash Brothers Melee, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia Legends. But that's about it. The PS2 was miles better than the Gamecube AND the Xbox. Nothing can beat the PS2's outstanding library of exclusive games.
During that generation, I got a Gamecube first. I enjoyed Melee and Luigi's Mansion for a while, but then I saw that most of my friends had PS2s, and I was missing out on SO MANY great games. Games like Dark Cloud, Kingdom Hearts and Jak and Daxter.
The Gamecube was pretty good, I'd say that it was worth buying for games like Melee and Tales of Symphonia, but the PS2 blew it out of the water.
Dudersaper
PS2 "blew it out the water"? How so? Graphically, the Cube was much better. As far as game library, yes, the PS2 has more games, but that doesn't make them better games, and then you even included Xbox which makes me think you're just tossing around Sonyisms. Regardless of what you say, it doesn't change the pecking order, Xbox/GC/Ps2/Dc
I agree with "more games doesn't make them better", but the PS2 DOES have more good games than the GC and XBox. I'm not bashing any of the two, and they are both graphically superior to the PS2, but you can get so much more good games with a PS2 than you can with the other two. And even though the XBox and GC versions of Multi-plat games are much better looking than the PS2 versions, it doesn't really change the gameplay, so having the PS2 lets you have those games (even though graphically inferior) AND all the great games that are only for PS2. (And please don't come naming lots of GC and XBox games, I know they both have tons of great games and I'm not saying the contrary, but the PS2 just has more of them)All quality systems that gen, but imo the GC and Xbox offered experiences that were unavailable on the ps2. Not to mention xbox live, which is just such a huge plus. The community around the original xbox is the real reason why the 360 took off and took the popularity away from Sony.
I agree with "more games doesn't make them better", but the PS2 DOES have more good games than the GC and XBox. I'm not bashing any of the two, and they are both graphically superior to the PS2, but you can get so much more good games with a PS2 than you can with the other two. And even though the XBox and GC versions of Multi-plat games are much better looking than the PS2 versions, it doesn't really change the gameplay, so having the PS2 lets you have those games (even though graphically inferior) AND all the great games that are only for PS2. (And please don't come naming lots of GC and XBox games, I know they both have tons of great games and I'm not saying the contrary, but the PS2 just has more of them)[QUOTE="Dudersaper"][QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
PS2 "blew it out the water"? How so? Graphically, the Cube was much better. As far as game library, yes, the PS2 has more games, but that doesn't make them better games, and then you even included Xbox which makes me think you're just tossing around Sonyisms. Regardless of what you say, it doesn't change the pecking order, Xbox/GC/Ps2/Dc
Heirren
All quality systems that gen, but imo the GC and Xbox offered experiences that were unavailable on the ps2. Not to mention xbox live, which is just such a huge plus. The community around the original xbox is the real reason why the 360 took off and took the popularity away from Sony.
Well yeah, all consoles had each it's experiences that were unnavailable on the other two. Like as you said, XBox Live on the XBox, the tons of great exclusive games for PS2, and I really don't know much about GC but I'm sure it has it's highs too. It really depends on what the player is looking for the most, as I am a gamer that usually doesn't like multiplayer at all, the PS2 is perfect for me, tons and tons of great single player games. PS2 also had online but I'm sure it doesn't compare to XBox Live.[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I agree with "more games doesn't make them better", but the PS2 DOES have more good games than the GC and XBox. I'm not bashing any of the two, and they are both graphically superior to the PS2, but you can get so much more good games with a PS2 than you can with the other two. And even though the XBox and GC versions of Multi-plat games are much better looking than the PS2 versions, it doesn't really change the gameplay, so having the PS2 lets you have those games (even though graphically inferior) AND all the great games that are only for PS2. (And please don't come naming lots of GC and XBox games, I know they both have tons of great games and I'm not saying the contrary, but the PS2 just has more of them)Dudersaper
All quality systems that gen, but imo the GC and Xbox offered experiences that were unavailable on the ps2. Not to mention xbox live, which is just such a huge plus. The community around the original xbox is the real reason why the 360 took off and took the popularity away from Sony.
Well yeah, all consoles had each it's experiences that were unnavailable on the other two. Like as you said, XBox Live on the XBox, the tons of great exclusive games for PS2, and I really don't know much about GC but I'm sure it has it's highs too. It really depends on what the player is looking for the most, as I am a gamer that usually doesn't like multiplayer at all, the PS2 is perfect for me, tons and tons of great single player games. PS2 also had online but I'm sure it doesn't compare to XBox Live.Well, name me some PS2 games--ones that were incomparable to anything on the xbox/gc.:)
Well, I think the GC was mostly bashed because of the "kiddy" image it had (despite having the best Resident Evil games in that gen). It also missed-out on the then extremely popular GTA games and didn't have DVD playback and online play (altho that didn't become wide-spread well into PS2's life cycle either).
It was all about the PS2 back then while the Xbox got attention because of the better graphics and some exclusives whereas the GC was mostly sold because of Nintendo games.
Well I think both XBox and GC lack RPG's, (I know they both have great ones, like Jade Empire on the XBox, still not enough of those), the PS2 has: Rogue Galaxy Dragon Quest VIII Persona 3 Persona 4 Digital Devil Saga 1&2 Devil Summoner 1&2 SMT:Nocturne .hack//G.U. Dark Cloud 1& 2 Front Mission 4 & 5 (at least I think they're exclusive) In terms of platformers, I haven't played much for XBox, but I know there's Psychonauts and a few more (Im not sure it has any exclusive platformers though, it might have some I don't know of) , the GC I know it has Super Mario Sunshine, the PS2 has: Jak II Jak 3 Ratchet & Clank Series Sly Cooper Series In terms of Action adventure, I know all three have lots in there libraries, but I don't think much of them are similar to the PS2's Yakuza 1 & 2 Shadow of the Colossus Ico God of War God of War II (even though I'm not a huge fan of the series, I do like them) XBox has great fighters like DOA, but most of the other I know of on it, like Guilty Gear and Capcom vs SNK, are also for PS2, and I don't think it's worthy of mentioning Tekken for the PS2 because DOA is pretty up there with it in my book. There're probably much more I didn't mention, I just mentioned some I've played.Dudersaper
All this shows me is that you've played PS2 more than GC/Xbox and are basing your experiences off of what you've played. In essence, that doesn't say much about anything unless you're somewhat familar with them all. Me on the other hand owned them all, but ended up booting the PS2 because it offered nothing the Cube or Xbox had. The xbox had it's DVD player, xbox live, accessories and was easy to "customize", it also came with so much memory that you didn't need a memory card. The cube had internet support, but it wasn't on the level of Xbox (more of a local thing), had a huge library of good games and platformers with better graphics than the ps2, somewhat on par but edged out by the xbox. The Xbox also had GTA series, lots of fighters and much better control. Infact, both consoles had much better controllers than PS2, which essentially copied the ps1's horrid controller lol. Anyway, I just think you're speaking on preference, which is fine. But at least have a little knowledge of what you're talking about.
I have both XBox and PS2, so I'm familiar with both, just not the GC.
Better graphics doesn't mean better games, but I did say that both GC and XBox had good platformers, I never said otherwise.So did the PS2
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
had a huge library of good games and platformers with better graphics than the ps2
darkdude2k12
So did the PS2The Xbox also had GTA series, lots of fighters
darkdude2k12
Well of course I am, and you could say the same for yourself.Anyway, I just think you're speaking on preference, which is fine. But at least have a little knowledge of what you're talking about.darkdude2k12
Stupid GS won't let me fix the post, anyway it was supposed to have included saying the PS2 also had internet support.DudersaperPS2 also plays DVDs.
Stupid GS won't let me fix the post, anyway it was supposed to have included saying the PS2 also had internet support.Dudersaper
So what. I never said it didn't have I-net support. I'm saying that it doesn't offer as many accessories as the Cube/Xbox. It's game library can be reduced down to me saying more than 80-90 percent or more of it's games are sloppy rush jobs. Note how the Xbox 360 and Wii both got the jump on Sony in next gen.
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]Stupid GS won't let me fix the post, anyway it was supposed to have included saying the PS2 also had internet support.Eikichi-OnizukaPS2 also plays DVDs.Oh yeah I had that in there two :P
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]Well I think both XBox and GC lack RPG's, (I know they both have great ones, like Jade Empire on the XBox, still not enough of those), the PS2 has: Rogue Galaxy Dragon Quest VIII Persona 3 Persona 4 Digital Devil Saga 1&2 Devil Summoner 1&2 SMT:Nocturne .hack//G.U. Dark Cloud 1& 2 Front Mission 4 & 5 (at least I think they're exclusive) In terms of platformers, I haven't played much for XBox, but I know there's Psychonauts and a few more (Im not sure it has any exclusive platformers though, it might have some I don't know of) , the GC I know it has Super Mario Sunshine, the PS2 has: Jak II Jak 3 Ratchet & Clank Series Sly Cooper Series In terms of Action adventure, I know all three have lots in there libraries, but I don't think much of them are similar to the PS2's Yakuza 1 & 2 Shadow of the Colossus Ico God of War God of War II (even though I'm not a huge fan of the series, I do like them) XBox has great fighters like DOA, but most of the other I know of on it, like Guilty Gear and Capcom vs SNK, are also for PS2, and I don't think it's worthy of mentioning Tekken for the PS2 because DOA is pretty up there with it in my book. There're probably much more I didn't mention, I just mentioned some I've played.darkdude2k12
All this shows me is that you've played PS2 more than GC/Xbox and are basing your experiences off of what you've played. In essence, that doesn't say much about anything unless you're somewhat familar with them all. Me on the other hand owned them all, but ended up booting the PS2 because it offered nothing the Cube or Xbox had. The xbox had it's DVD player, xbox live, accessories and was easy to "customize", it also came with so much memory that you didn't need a memory card. The cube had internet support, but it wasn't on the level of Xbox (more of a local thing), had a huge library of good games and platformers with better graphics than the ps2, somewhat on par but edged out by the xbox. The Xbox also had GTA series, lots of fighters and much better control. Infact, both consoles had much better controllers than PS2, which essentially copied the ps1's horrid controller lol. Anyway, I just think you're speaking on preference, which is fine. But at least have a little knowledge of what you're talking about.
This is always my point against the ps2. It offered a ton of games, the majority of which were extremely generic. The gc and xbox had a far more varied library. Xbox really offered that revolutionary experience, in that it was doing things NEVER done before on the home console. It had THE best multiplatform games, true dolby 5.1 sound, xbox live, no need for mem cards, dvd, four controller ports(4player coop xbox live!!!), and not to mention the great exclusives. What separates the xbox exclusives from the ps2s were that they were unlike ANY game on the ps2. KOTOR? Halo1/2? Xbox also had the best racers. Splinter cell STUNK on the ps2/gc. ...the sports games weren't even worth playing on the other consoles.
...The GCs saving grace were the stellar exclusives.
It's game library can be reduced down to me saying more than 80-90 percent or more of it's games are sloppy rush jobsdarkdude2k12Go ahead, 80 to 90 percent, I want to see it, Somewhat-God.
What separates the xbox exclusives from the ps2s were that they were unlike ANY game on the ps2. KOTOR? Halo1/2? HeirrenYeah but that in the ends up being a matter of preference, if you go to the PS2 you'll find much more exclusive RPG's then the XBox's KOTOR and Jade Empire. You'll also find more varied Action/Adventure games on the PS2 than on the XBox. The platformers are also a matter of preference, I haven't played a platformer on the XBox that I have enjoyed more than Jak, Ratchet or Sly series. Because PS2 also has exclusives unlike ANY other on the XBox, the XBox has Kotor and Halo, the PS2 has Shadow of the Colossus, Ico, the tons of RPG's. I do however agree with your other points, about the 4 controller ports, the multi-plats being better on the XBox, the XBox Live thing, etc. And also, I'm in no way saying the PS2 is better than the XBox, I love both, and I find the XBox better in pretty much every aspect, but the library is one that I disagree with.
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
I like the adaptors as novelties, but it is not "by far" the best way to play most gba games. In fact, there are times when I have found it cumbersome, as some of the more conosle oriented platformers, especially the ports, limit the overall view of the environment quite a bit.
Heirren
Yes, it is "by far" better than any other way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. If you can't see the difference, then you're blind. The screen is much bigger, without it getting stetch and warped. The screen is much brighter. The graphics and colors are brighter and more vibrant. And the backgrounds and little details that you might not notice on your Game Boy/GBA screens are easily noticable on the Game Boy Player. ESPECIALLY the original Game Boy games.
And what do you mean by "console oriented platformers" exactly? How is a portable game "console oriented"? As for limiting the view of the enironment...WHAT?! Do you know what you're saying? You see more on the screen at once when playing through the Game Boy Player.
A lot of the snes type ports had a more restricted view. Also, graphics just don't matter on a portable. The best GBA games are best played on the SP model. Plain and simple. Why in the world would I want to play a game like Advance Wars on the couch? Different game design for different scenerios. Part of the reason the GBA was so great was because the unit was a TRUE portable in form and also in game design.
Being portable was never an issue here. So why are you arguing that? It was simply about the games being much better LOOKING on the Gameboy Player than they ever were on any Gameboy/GBA model. And there's no comparison or room for argument when it comes to that. The Gameboy Player looks SO MUCH better than even the SP (which is the model of GBA that I own, along with a GBC and original GB).
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
Yes, it is "by far" better than any other way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. If you can't see the difference, then you're blind. The screen is much bigger, without it getting stetch and warped. The screen is much brighter. The graphics and colors are brighter and more vibrant. And the backgrounds and little details that you might not notice on your Game Boy/GBA screens are easily noticable on the Game Boy Player. ESPECIALLY the original Game Boy games.
And what do you mean by "console oriented platformers" exactly? How is a portable game "console oriented"? As for limiting the view of the enironment...WHAT?! Do you know what you're saying? You see more on the screen at once when playing through the Game Boy Player.
Emerald_Warrior
A lot of the snes type ports had a more restricted view. Also, graphics just don't matter on a portable. The best GBA games are best played on the SP model. Plain and simple. Why in the world would I want to play a game like Advance Wars on the couch? Different game design for different scenerios. Part of the reason the GBA was so great was because the unit was a TRUE portable in form and also in game design.
Being portable was never an issue here. So why are you arguing that? It was simply about the games being much better LOOKING on the Gameboy Player than they ever were on any Gameboy/GBA model. And there's no comparison or room for argument when it comes to that. The Gameboy Player looks SO MUCH better than even the SP (which is the model of GBA that I own, along with a GBC and original GB).
See, I just simply disagree. I enjoy the per-pixel sharpness playing the games on the SP model.
I also can't stand the Gamecube haters. Come show some love for the darn console. It had the best games besides Mario and Zelda. I'm still a PSOne gamer and Nintendo Gamecube and SNES gamer along with my GBA SP. I still play games on them.
Just not fond of the PS3s and the Xboxes these days.
The PS3 games they're all about oh so pretty graphics and they dont even care about the storylines.
Gamecube games they had the right gameplay and story to the games. Hell if the world was ending right now,I would rather play The Simpsons Hit and Run over some PS3 game.
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]Well I think both XBox and GC lack RPG's, (I know they both have great ones, like Jade Empire on the XBox, still not enough of those), the PS2 has: Rogue Galaxy Dragon Quest VIII Persona 3 Persona 4 Digital Devil Saga 1&2 Devil Summoner 1&2 SMT:Nocturne .hack//G.U. Dark Cloud 1& 2 Front Mission 4 & 5 (at least I think they're exclusive) In terms of platformers, I haven't played much for XBox, but I know there's Psychonauts and a few more (Im not sure it has any exclusive platformers though, it might have some I don't know of) , the GC I know it has Super Mario Sunshine, the PS2 has: Jak II Jak 3 Ratchet & Clank Series Sly Cooper Series In terms of Action adventure, I know all three have lots in there libraries, but I don't think much of them are similar to the PS2's Yakuza 1 & 2 Shadow of the Colossus Ico God of War God of War II (even though I'm not a huge fan of the series, I do like them) XBox has great fighters like DOA, but most of the other I know of on it, like Guilty Gear and Capcom vs SNK, are also for PS2, and I don't think it's worthy of mentioning Tekken for the PS2 because DOA is pretty up there with it in my book. There're probably much more I didn't mention, I just mentioned some I've played.Heirren
All this shows me is that you've played PS2 more than GC/Xbox and are basing your experiences off of what you've played. In essence, that doesn't say much about anything unless you're somewhat familar with them all. Me on the other hand owned them all, but ended up booting the PS2 because it offered nothing the Cube or Xbox had. The xbox had it's DVD player, xbox live, accessories and was easy to "customize", it also came with so much memory that you didn't need a memory card. The cube had internet support, but it wasn't on the level of Xbox (more of a local thing), had a huge library of good games and platformers with better graphics than the ps2, somewhat on par but edged out by the xbox. The Xbox also had GTA series, lots of fighters and much better control. Infact, both consoles had much better controllers than PS2, which essentially copied the ps1's horrid controller lol. Anyway, I just think you're speaking on preference, which is fine. But at least have a little knowledge of what you're talking about.
This is always my point against the ps2. It offered a ton of games, the majority of which were extremely generic. The gc and xbox had a far more varied library. Xbox really offered that revolutionary experience, in that it was doing things NEVER done before on the home console. It had THE best multiplatform games, true dolby 5.1 sound, xbox live, no need for mem cards, dvd, four controller ports(4player coop xbox live!!!), and not to mention the great exclusives. What separates the xbox exclusives from the ps2s were that they were unlike ANY game on the ps2. KOTOR? Halo1/2? Xbox also had the best racers. Splinter cell STUNK on the ps2/gc. ...the sports games weren't even worth playing on the other consoles.
...The GCs saving grace were the stellar exclusives.
Let's not forget graphics, and that's not to say that I'm a graphic hog in any way, but a game with beautiful graphics and good gameplay is the perfect combination. GC had loads of good platformers, the Xbox had a load of action games, and yes, Splinter cell on the PS2/GC sucked big time compared to the Xbox's. Not only were the graphics better and much sharper, but there was also the multiplayer, the sound, the control and all the extras on the Xbox. The Ps2 always gave me the feeling of someone not spending enough time developing a game which pretty much speaks for almost all ps2 games. Don't get me wrong, it has the potential, but that potential actually being showcased would be in very minute instances. Really, when you get down to it, the PS1 had alot more games than the Dreamcast as well, but the Dreamcast brought games that did better things than PS1. The same can be said about Ps2. It has a load of games, but most aren't worth playing when you have two consoles that were clearly superior. This was a great point. Nice post.
[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
I liked the Gamecube a lot. It has Super Smash Brothers Melee, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia Legends. But that's about it. The PS2 was miles better than the Gamecube AND the Xbox. Nothing can beat the PS2's outstanding library of exclusive games.
During that generation, I got a Gamecube first. I enjoyed Melee and Luigi's Mansion for a while, but then I saw that most of my friends had PS2s, and I was missing out on SO MANY great games. Games like Dark Cloud, Kingdom Hearts and Jak and Daxter.
The Gamecube was pretty good, I'd say that it was worth buying for games like Melee and Tales of Symphonia, but the PS2 blew it out of the water.
darkdude2k12
PS2 "blew it out the water"? How so? Graphically, the Cube was much better. As far as game library, yes, the PS2 has more games, but that doesn't make them better games, and then you even included Xbox which makes me think you're just tossing around Sonyisms. Regardless of what you say, it doesn't change the pecking order, Xbox/GC/Ps2/Dc
My pecking order for that generation goes PS2/Gamecube/Xbox.
The Gamecube and the Xbox had better graphics, but they were lacking in numbers of great exclusives when compared to the PS2. People often say "quality over quantity," but I believe the PS2 had both quality and quantity. I still love to play games like Wild Arms 3, Tales of the Abyss, Persona 3 and Dark Cloud. It feels like there's no end to the PS2's library of awesome JRPGs.
The Gamecube had plenty of worthwhile exclusives, but the Xbox didn't have anything that was a real system seller for me.
It's not the PS3's fault you suck at picking games.I also can't stand the Gamecube haters. Come show some love for the darn console. It had the best games besides Mario and Zelda. I'm still a PSOne gamer and Nintendo Gamecube and SNES gamer along with my GBA SP. I still play games on them.
Just not fond of the PS3s and the Xboxes these days.
The PS3 games they're all about oh so pretty graphics and they dont even care about the storylines.
Gamecube games they had the right gameplay and story to the games. Hell if the world was ending right now,I would rather play The Simpsons Hit and Run over some PS3 game.
slamminjammin69
Anyways, the Gamecube was never that popular with everyone but when talking to gamers I have never heard it being bashed. The worst thing that I would hear is that it's ranked third among the three or that its library wasn't as strong as the others. That's not bashing.
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
I liked the Gamecube a lot. It has Super Smash Brothers Melee, Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia Legends. But that's about it. The PS2 was miles better than the Gamecube AND the Xbox. Nothing can beat the PS2's outstanding library of exclusive games.
During that generation, I got a Gamecube first. I enjoyed Melee and Luigi's Mansion for a while, but then I saw that most of my friends had PS2s, and I was missing out on SO MANY great games. Games like Dark Cloud, Kingdom Hearts and Jak and Daxter.
The Gamecube was pretty good, I'd say that it was worth buying for games like Melee and Tales of Symphonia, but the PS2 blew it out of the water.
GeoffZak
PS2 "blew it out the water"? How so? Graphically, the Cube was much better. As far as game library, yes, the PS2 has more games, but that doesn't make them better games, and then you even included Xbox which makes me think you're just tossing around Sonyisms. Regardless of what you say, it doesn't change the pecking order, Xbox/GC/Ps2/Dc
My pecking order for that generation goes PS2/Gamecube/Xbox.
The Gamecube and the Xbox had better graphics, but they were lacking in numbers of great exclusives when compared to the PS2. People often say "quality over quantity," but I believe the PS2 had both quality and quantity. I still love to play games like Wild Arms 3, Tales of the Abyss, Persona 3 and Dark Cloud. It feels like there's no end to the PS2's library of awesome JRPGs.
The Gamecube had plenty of worthwhile exclusives, but the Xbox didn't have anything that was a real system seller for me.
I doubt you've owned or played a GC/XBOX. Especially given the fact that you're stupid enough to give PS2 the edge on games due to JRPG's lol. You're so stupid it's comical.
It's not the PS3's fault you suck at picking games.[QUOTE="slamminjammin69"]
I also can't stand the Gamecube haters. Come show some love for the darn console. It had the best games besides Mario and Zelda. I'm still a PSOne gamer and Nintendo Gamecube and SNES gamer along with my GBA SP. I still play games on them.
Just not fond of the PS3s and the Xboxes these days.
The PS3 games they're all about oh so pretty graphics and they dont even care about the storylines.
Gamecube games they had the right gameplay and story to the games. Hell if the world was ending right now,I would rather play The Simpsons Hit and Run over some PS3 game.
forgot_it
Anyways, the Gamecube was never that popular with everyone but when talking to gamers I have never heard it being bashed. The worst thing that I would hear is that it's ranked third among the three or that its library wasn't as strong as the others. That's not bashing.
Zip it, dork. Afterall, the PS3's the worst this gen with games. I'd give the spot to Wii, but the ps3 is absolutely horrible besides a few games.
I doubt you've owned or played a GC/XBOX. Especially given the fact that you're stupid enough to give PS2 the edge on games due to JRPG's lol. You're so stupid it's comical.
Zip it, dork. Afterall, the PS3's the worst this gen with games. I'd give the spot to Wii, but the ps3 is absolutely horrible besides a few games.
darkdude2k12
Seriously dude? You can't be serious. Stop trolling. What year is it? 2006? You're stuck in the past if you think the PS3 still has no good games. It's 2012 dude, take a look at all the exclusives they've been pumping out for the PS3.
I owned a Gamecube BEFORE I owned a PS2. After I bought my Gamecube, most of my friends got PS2s, and after I saw all the great exclusives it had that I couldn't play on the Gamecube, I just had to get one.
I never owned an Xbox myself, only because I saw no need to get one. The only worthwhile titles it had were Fable, Oddworld and Halo. Some of my friends had Xboxes, that's how I got to play those games. But I never owned one because the exclusives it had didn't interest me enough, not like games such as Super Smash Brothers and Tales of Symphonia.
And what's wrong with JRPGs? They have extremely fun and dynamic battle systems and have a nice emphasis on story telling, making the players feel connected to the characters by the end. Don't be so narrow-minded.
It's game library can be reduced down to me saying more than 80-90 percent or more of it's games are sloppy rush jobs.
darkdude2k12
You clearly haven't played enough PS2 games if your explanation for the PS2's massive library is that those games were mostly "sloppy rush jobs." XD
The truth is that the PS2 was the most successful platform in its generation, and developers wanted to make games for it.
Persona 3
Persona 4
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Legendia
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XII
Star Ocean
Rogue Galaxy
Dragon Quest VIII
Wild Arms 3
Wild Arms 4
Wild Arms 5
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Jak and Daxter
Jak 2
Jak 3
Jak X
Sly Cooper
Sly 2
Sly 3
God of War
God of War 2
Bully
Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
DBZ Budokai 2
DBZ Budokai 3
All great games that WEREN'T sloppy rush jobs.
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
It's game library can be reduced down to me saying more than 80-90 percent or more of it's games are sloppy rush jobs.
GeoffZak
You clearly haven't played enough PS2 games if your explanation for the PS2's massive library is that those games were mostly "sloppy rush jobs." XD
The truth is that the PS2 was the most successful platform in its generation, and developers wanted to make games for it.
Persona 3
Persona 4
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Legendia
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XII
Star Ocean
Rogue Galaxy
Dragon Quest VIII
Wild Arms 3
Wild Arms 4
Wild Arms 5
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Jak and Daxter
Jak 2
Jak 3
Jak X
Sly Cooper
Sly 2
Sly 3
God of War
God of War 2
Bully
Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
DBZ Budokai 2
DBZ Budokai 3
All great games that WEREN'T sloppy rush jobs.
PS2 is probably my favourite console of last gen, but I can say that nearly half the titles you listed don't qualify as "great." Where's either Disgaea? GTA? Katamari? MGS? Okami? Ratchet & Clank? Shadow Hearts: Covenant? Come on, bro!Gamecube has some great games, but going back and looking at the library I've found it's very, very limited.
It's not the PS3's fault you suck at picking games.[QUOTE="forgot_it"]
[QUOTE="slamminjammin69"]
I also can't stand the Gamecube haters. Come show some love for the darn console. It had the best games besides Mario and Zelda. I'm still a PSOne gamer and Nintendo Gamecube and SNES gamer along with my GBA SP. I still play games on them.
Just not fond of the PS3s and the Xboxes these days.
The PS3 games they're all about oh so pretty graphics and they dont even care about the storylines.
Gamecube games they had the right gameplay and story to the games. Hell if the world was ending right now,I would rather play The Simpsons Hit and Run over some PS3 game.
darkdude2k12
Anyways, the Gamecube was never that popular with everyone but when talking to gamers I have never heard it being bashed. The worst thing that I would hear is that it's ranked third among the three or that its library wasn't as strong as the others. That's not bashing.
Zip it, dork. Afterall, the PS3's the worst this gen with games. I'd give the spot to Wii, but the ps3 is absolutely horrible besides a few games.
... Seriously? Have you seen the Wii's library?
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
It's game library can be reduced down to me saying more than 80-90 percent or more of it's games are sloppy rush jobs.
GeoffZak
You clearly haven't played enough PS2 games if your explanation for the PS2's massive library is that those games were mostly "sloppy rush jobs." XD
The truth is that the PS2 was the most successful platform in its generation, and developers wanted to make games for it.
Persona 3
Persona 4
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Legendia
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XII
Star Ocean
Rogue Galaxy
Dragon Quest VIII
Wild Arms 3
Wild Arms 4
Wild Arms 5
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Jak and Daxter
Jak 2
Jak 3
Jak X
Sly Cooper
Sly 2
Sly 3
God of War
God of War 2
Bully
Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
DBZ Budokai 2
DBZ Budokai 3
All great games that WEREN'T sloppy rush jobs.
You've proven nothing. Other than the fact that you're a JRPG nerd all whilst naming a game that wasn't an exclusive. (Bully) And again, more than 90 percent of the PS2's library are terrible games with even worst graphics. I can easily make a list of GC/Xbox games that are better.
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
[QUOTE="forgot_it"]It's not the PS3's fault you suck at picking games.
Anyways, the Gamecube was never that popular with everyone but when talking to gamers I have never heard it being bashed. The worst thing that I would hear is that it's ranked third among the three or that its library wasn't as strong as the others. That's not bashing.
hakanakumono
Zip it, dork. Afterall, the PS3's the worst this gen with games. I'd give the spot to Wii, but the ps3 is absolutely horrible besides a few games.
... Seriously? Have you seen the Wii's library?
Gee. Have you seen the Wii's gimmick controller? It's the worst idea. Even the classic controller's a piece of crap. The only reason I own one is to play GC titles in component quality being that the cable's more than what I'm willing to pay for. (150 and up)
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
I doubt you've owned or played a GC/XBOX. Especially given the fact that you're stupid enough to give PS2 the edge on games due to JRPG's lol. You're so stupid it's comical.
Zip it, dork. Afterall, the PS3's the worst this gen with games. I'd give the spot to Wii, but the ps3 is absolutely horrible besides a few games.
GeoffZak
Seriously dude? You can't be serious. Stop trolling. What year is it? 2006? You're stuck in the past if you think the PS3 still has no good games. It's 2012 dude, take a look at all the exclusives they've been pumping out for the PS3.
I owned a Gamecube BEFORE I owned a PS2. After I bought my Gamecube, most of my friends got PS2s, and after I saw all the great exclusives it had that I couldn't play on the Gamecube, I just had to get one.
I never owned an Xbox myself, only because I saw no need to get one. The only worthwhile titles it had were Fable, Oddworld and Halo. Some of my friends had Xboxes, that's how I got to play those games. But I never owned one because the exclusives it had didn't interest me enough, not like games such as Super Smash Brothers and Tales of Symphonia.
And what's wrong with JRPGs? They have extremely fun and dynamic battle systems and have a nice emphasis on story telling, making the players feel connected to the characters by the end. Don't be so narrow-minded.
Name PS3 games that even rival 360's massive library of games and superior ports. I'm not even gonna toss in the fact that the PS3 has the same crappy controller the PS1/PS2 had, Internet that's nowhere on 360's level, a higher price tag for essentially a console with identical graphics although I'd give the 360 the edge most the time....oh, and let's toss out the stupid gimmicks like PS3's motion tech, Xbox's Kinect (bullsh*t) and all the extras. Please leave out the specs talk being that they're HD twins lol. You must be a sony fanboy, which would make you an imbecile on purpose.
[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]
It's game library can be reduced down to me saying more than 80-90 percent or more of it's games are sloppy rush jobs.
darkdude2k12
You clearly haven't played enough PS2 games if your explanation for the PS2's massive library is that those games were mostly "sloppy rush jobs." XD
The truth is that the PS2 was the most successful platform in its generation, and developers wanted to make games for it.
Persona 3
Persona 4
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Legendia
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XII
Star Ocean
Rogue Galaxy
Dragon Quest VIII
Wild Arms 3
Wild Arms 4
Wild Arms 5
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Jak and Daxter
Jak 2
Jak 3
Jak X
Sly Cooper
Sly 2
Sly 3
God of War
God of War 2
Bully
Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
DBZ Budokai 2
DBZ Budokai 3
All great games that WEREN'T sloppy rush jobs.
You've proven nothing. Other than the fact that you're a JRPG nerd all whilst naming a game that wasn't an exclusive. (Bully) And again, more than 90 percent of the PS2's library are terrible games with even worst graphics. I can easily make a list of GC/Xbox games that are better.
Well I asked you to post those 90 percent you said you could easily point out as rush jobs. And also, when people name exclusives for XBox, responses are usually Halo 1/2, KOTOR, Jade Empire, and a few more, with GC it's SuperMarioSunshine, LoZ, and also a few more, with the PS2 you see much more varied posts, from either more JRPG oriented fans like myself and Geoff, platformer fans, action/adventure fans, etc, that must say at least a little bit about the exclusive qualities in the consoles. Again don't misunderstand me and think I'm saying Halo and KoToR are the only good exclusives for XBox and the same for GC with Super Mario, because I'm not saying that.Please Log In to post.
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