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#1 oakeshott
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I'd just like to say that I'm glad that some games coming out (Stormise, Mafia II, Leisure Suit Larry Box Office Bust) are getting absolutely panned by the Gamespot staff. There was definitely a period (of several years, indeed) where I felt Gamespot was far too lenient towards rubbish. I tended to go over tol Metacritic.com instead, as I just stopped trusting Gamespot (which in the early 2000s was the only review site I used) with respect to scores, although I still liked a lot of the other content on the site (yay for the game guides). The only thing that gives you credibility as a review site is consistently high standards. After all, according to Sturgeon's Law, 90% of everything is crap, and this definitely applies to computer games; most of them are utter junk, with a few gems in the pile of trash. So well done for exposing the lazy commercial product for what it is and giving it scores in the 2-4 range; it means I'll be much more likely to believe you when you give a game an 8 or a 9.

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#2 K1LLR3175
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Well for starters you mean Godfather 2,not Mafia 2 And I am not sure if it is good to see terrible review scores anyway.I mean what if the game is actually good to people,yet gamespot gave it a bad score?This is why the best opinion if your own.
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I'd just like to say that I'm glad that some games coming out (Stormise, Mafia II, Leisure Suit Larry Box Office Bust) are getting absolutely panned by the Gamespot staff. There was definitely a period (of several years, indeed) where I felt Gamespot was far too lenient towards rubbish. I tended to go over tol Metacritic.com instead, as I just stopped trusting Gamespot (which in the early 2000s was the only review site I used) with respect to scores, although I still liked a lot of the other content on the site (yay for the game guides). The only thing that gives you credibility as a review site is consistently high standards. After all, according to Sturgeon's Law, 90% of everything is crap, and this definitely applies to computer games; most of them are utter junk, with a few gems in the pile of trash. So well done for exposing the lazy commercial product for what it is and giving it scores in the 2-4 range; it means I'll be much more likely to believe you when you give a game an 8 or a 9.

oakeshott

I think this kind of mentality is a ridiculous overstatement because when you actually examine the medium and the games coming out, the ratio of quality is actually pretty high. I know it's hip and edgy to piss all over everything but as somebody who plays a great deal of the games released every year, I remain impressed by the relatively high level of quality I've experienced and I pity those people who need the opinions of others to make their gaming decisions.

They are going to miss out on some good games.

Also, the notion that low ratings make a site more credible in terms of reviews is asinine. Gamespotis actually one of the worst sites for editorialsbecause of how incredibly arbitrary and schizophrenic their reviews have become. You cite them giving Godfather II alower-than-average score as imbuing them with some measure of viability yet have you read their Ninja Blade review, which is considerably higher than most credible sites?

Giving out extremely low scores doesn't give a site any more credibility than a site that hands out 10's like candy.

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#4 RandolphScott
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Your logic is really, really, poor.
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Funny Gamespot has always been considered one of the harshest sites a round,where a few years back anything lower than an 8 was a flop. So I fail to see the point.
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Hey, remember when Eidos paid tons of money advertising Kane and Lynch, then Jeff Gerstman gave it a bad review, and then he got fired immediately afterward? Gamespot's review scores are for sale to the highest bidder.
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#7 Ceraby
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Hey, remember when Eidos paid tons of money advertising Kane and Lynch, then Jeff Gerstman gave it a bad review, and then he got fired immediately afterward? Gamespot's review scores are for sale to the highest bidder.UT_Wrestler

Is Gamespot being paid to review? :|

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#8 smbius
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Well for starters you mean Godfather 2,not Mafia 2 And I am not sure if it is good to see terrible review scores anyway.I mean what if the game is actually good to people,yet gamespot gave it a bad score?This is why the best opinion if your own.K1LLR3175
Terrible reviews do not automatically make a reviewer/site better, it's the accuracy and honest facts of the review. If a game is buggy and horribly designed, that is not an opinion. That is a fact. Now if some person happens to like a bunch of games in the 2-5 scoring range, this person is on crack and every company putting out garbage would love to find more of these guys.
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[QUOTE="oakeshott"]

I'd just like to say that I'm glad that some games coming out (Stormise, Mafia II, Leisure Suit Larry Box Office Bust) are getting absolutely panned by the Gamespot staff. There was definitely a period (of several years, indeed) where I felt Gamespot was far too lenient towards rubbish. I tended to go over tol Metacritic.com instead, as I just stopped trusting Gamespot (which in the early 2000s was the only review site I used) with respect to scores, although I still liked a lot of the other content on the site (yay for the game guides). The only thing that gives you credibility as a review site is consistently high standards. After all, according to Sturgeon's Law, 90% of everything is crap, and this definitely applies to computer games; most of them are utter junk, with a few gems in the pile of trash. So well done for exposing the lazy commercial product for what it is and giving it scores in the 2-4 range; it means I'll be much more likely to believe you when you give a game an 8 or a 9.

Grammaton-Cleric

I think this kind of mentality is a ridiculous overstatement because when you actually examine the medium and the games coming out, the ratio of quality is actually pretty high. I know it's hip and edgy to piss all over everything but as somebody who plays a great deal of the games released every year, I remain impressed by the relatively high level of quality I've experienced and I pity those people who need the opinions of others to make their gaming decisions.

They are going to miss out on some good games.

Also, the notion that low ratings make a site more credible in terms of reviews is asinine. Gamespotis actually one of the worst sites for editorialsbecause of how incredibly arbitrary and schizophrenic their reviews have become. You cite them giving Godfather II alower-than-average score as imbuing them with some measure of viability yet have you read their Ninja Blade review, which is considerably higher than most credible sites?

Giving out extremely low scores doesn't give a site any more credibility than a site that hands out 10's like candy.

I agree with most of what you said, but I think that goes a bit too far. There is no way I can buy every game that comes out to see if I will like it. Even if I could, I still wouldn't have enough time to PLAY all of them. Reviews aren't definitive or anything, but they really do help me sort through the trash to find things I will actually like. Otherwise, how else would I sort out Boom Blox from all the Wii shovelware or even DMC 2 from DMC 1 and 3?

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#10 sukraj
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The Godfather 2 failed miserably.

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#11 muthsera666
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I agree with most of what you said, but I think that goes a bit too far. There is no way I can buy every game that comes out to see if I will like it. Even if I could, I still wouldn't have enough time to PLAY all of them. Reviews aren't definitive or anything, but they really do help me sort through the trash to find things I will actually like. Otherwise, how else would I sort out Boom Blox from all the Wii shovelware or even DMC 2 from DMC 1 and 3?

AtomicTangerine

The problem is that some people just accept what the reveiws say. I mean, on GameSpot, Advent Rising got 5.7, but I love the game, and I reviewed it with an 8.5. The problems the reviewer stated never appeared when I played the game (I played it twice).

I think the problem is with stating that because someone doesn't like as many games, that means that the person in question has better taste than others.

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#12 dchan01
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I will trust a review site that openly pumps out negativity more than one that does not. I can be relatively certain they are not being paid off.