Grand Theft Auto copies Saints Row

Yep I said it but does one game even have to be the 'clone' though, the answer is no.
I hate it when Saints Row gets bashed for being a 'Grand Theft Auto clone;

Anyway, even though Saints Row is getting bashed, Grand Theft Auto is 'cloning' Saint's Row.

• Saint's Row 2 (2008) has mission checkpoints, Grand Theft Auto Episodes from Liberty City (2009-2010) added mission checkpoints.
• Saint's Row 2 (2008) had the ability to save mid game, Grand Theft Auto Chinatown Wars (2009) added the ability to save mid game.

NOTE: Not bashing Grand Theft Auto, I have both Grand Theft Auto and Saint's Row games and I love both.

I believe the first Saints Row also did a proper GPS style map system with road directions prior to GTA4 doing the same.DJ_Lae

Every game copies something from others, be it slow-mo effects, cover system etc.

Not something new.

And most game like Saints Row or True crime or any other that follow the typical sandbox recipe that Grand Theft Auto 3 introduced are/where considered "GTA Clones" It hardly used anymore though.

Every game copies something from others, be it slow-mo effects, cover system etc.

Not something new.

And most game like Saints Row or True crime or any other that follow the typical sandbox recipe that Grand Theft Auto 3 introduced are/where considered "GTA Clones" It hardly used anymore though.

Treflis

[QUOTE="Treflis"]

Every game copies something from others, be it slow-mo effects, cover system etc.

Not something new.

And most game like Saints Row or True crime or any other that follow the typical sandbox recipe that Grand Theft Auto 3 introduced are/where considered "GTA Clones" It hardly used anymore though.

ps3gameplayer

Apparently, Saints Row invented checkpoints.. 001011000101101

GTA started the sandbox/free roam genre. It should be left there. If someone claims SR, or any other sandbox game is a "gta clone" they're just ignorant fools.

It would be the same as calling Cod, halo,or any other FPS, a Doom/Wolfenstein ( which ever game started the FPS genre ) clone

Saints Row is its own game. Just because its the same genre as another game does not make it a clone. Every game exists in a genre that was created by a completely different game. If SR is a clone, It would mean that every game in existence is a straight clone.

Its very funny to me because usually a game that is called a clone, the game that its supposedly cloning is actually a clone too.

Like when people say every game that features a cover system is a clone of Gears Of War, when games where using cover systems 10 years before GOW even existed. Any military shooter is now called a COD clone, even though Cod is actually a clone of 50 million other FPS & military shooters before it.

A clone of another game that is also actually a clone. CloneCeption?

BTW the original Saints Row also introduced the cell phone mechanic that was also used in GTA4

It would be the same as calling Cod, halo,or any other FPS, a Doom/Wolfenstein ( which ever game started the FPS genre ) clone

brucecambell

Every game copies something from others.

Treflis

This.

I wish GTA would copy SR, maybe it would make GTA V fun when it comes out. Vis versa, SR copied the fun from GTA:SA, while GTA IV got rid of it.

I understand that both games take ideas from each other for better gameplay but personally I like GTA way more. I just like the more serious environment in Grand Theft Auto whereas in Saints Row, you run around in a space suit beating people to death with giant purple d!ldos I get that SR is the more arcade style game, but I don't like it nearly as much.

Yes, because if two games have something similar, the newest game's developer copied the other.

All games tend to be similar to another game in the same genre so this does not bother me.HadronVulture

I hope Rockstar does copy some things from SR3 for GTA 5, because SR3 was a way better game than GTA 4...hrt_rulz01

GTA started the sandbox/free roam genre. It should be left there. If someone claims SR, or any other sandbox game is a "gta clone" they're just ignorant fools.

It would be the same as calling Cod, halo,or any other FPS, a Doom/Wolfenstein ( which ever game started the FPS genre ) clone

Saints Row is its own game. Just because its the same genre as another game does not make it a clone. Every game exists in a genre that was created by a completely different game. If SR is a clone, It would mean that every game in existence is a straight clone.

Its very funny to me because usually a game that is called a clone, the game that its supposedly cloning is actually a clone too.

Like when people say every game that features a cover system is a clone of Gears Of War, when games where using cover systems 10 years before GOW even existed. Any military shooter is now called a COD clone, even though Cod is actually a clone of 50 million other FPS & military shooters before it.

A clone of another game that is also actually a clone. CloneCeption?

BTW the original Saints Row also introduced the cell phone mechanic that was also used in GTA4

brucecambell

I wasn't calling it a clone, I made this thread because i'm sick of Saint's Row being bashed for a 'clone'.
On the 'GTA Clone' logic that would make:

• Uncharted a Tomb Raider clone.
• All FPSs Doom clones (as you said).
• Splinter Cell a Metal Gear Clone.

I hate the term 'clone'.
Also I know some people who somehow consider Assassin's Creed a Hitman clone.

GTA was pretty much the first sandbox game. I wouldn't even feel offended if someone told me my game was a clone of it. They are both great series.

[QUOTE="brucecambell"]

GTA started the sandbox/free roam genre. It should be left there. If someone claims SR, or any other sandbox game is a "gta clone" they're just ignorant fools.

It would be the same as calling Cod, halo,or any other FPS, a Doom/Wolfenstein ( which ever game started the FPS genre ) clone

Saints Row is its own game. Just because its the same genre as another game does not make it a clone. Every game exists in a genre that was created by a completely different game. If SR is a clone, It would mean that every game in existence is a straight clone.

Its very funny to me because usually a game that is called a clone, the game that its supposedly cloning is actually a clone too.

Like when people say every game that features a cover system is a clone of Gears Of War, when games where using cover systems 10 years before GOW even existed. Any military shooter is now called a COD clone, even though Cod is actually a clone of 50 million other FPS & military shooters before it.

A clone of another game that is also actually a clone. CloneCeption?

BTW the original Saints Row also introduced the cell phone mechanic that was also used in GTA4

ps3gameplayer

I wasn't calling it a clone, I made this thread because i'm sick of Saint's Row being bashed for a 'clone'.
On the 'GTA Clone' logic that would make:

• Uncharted a Tomb Raider clone.
• All FPSs Doom clones (as you said).
• Splinter Cell a Metal Gear Clone.

I hate the term 'clone'.
Also I know some people who somehow consider Assassin's Creed a Hitman clone.

You couldn't argue that case though. Splinter Cell is very different from MGS

[QUOTE="ps3gameplayer"]

[QUOTE="brucecambell"]

GTA started the sandbox/free roam genre. It should be left there. If someone claims SR, or any other sandbox game is a "gta clone" they're just ignorant fools.

It would be the same as calling Cod, halo,or any other FPS, a Doom/Wolfenstein ( which ever game started the FPS genre ) clone

Saints Row is its own game. Just because its the same genre as another game does not make it a clone. Every game exists in a genre that was created by a completely different game. If SR is a clone, It would mean that every game in existence is a straight clone.

Its very funny to me because usually a game that is called a clone, the game that its supposedly cloning is actually a clone too.

Like when people say every game that features a cover system is a clone of Gears Of War, when games where using cover systems 10 years before GOW even existed. Any military shooter is now called a COD clone, even though Cod is actually a clone of 50 million other FPS & military shooters before it.

A clone of another game that is also actually a clone. CloneCeption?

BTW the original Saints Row also introduced the cell phone mechanic that was also used in GTA4

Ilovegames1992

I wasn't calling it a clone, I made this thread because i'm sick of Saint's Row being bashed for a 'clone'.
On the 'GTA Clone' logic that would make:

• Uncharted a Tomb Raider clone.
• All FPSs Doom clones (as you said).
• Splinter Cell a Metal Gear Clone.

I hate the term 'clone'.
Also I know some people who somehow consider Assassin's Creed a Hitman clone.

You couldn't argue that case though. Splinter Cell is very different from MGS

GTA was pretty much the first sandbox game. I wouldn't even feel offended if someone told me my game was a clone of it. They are both great series.

Ilovegames1992

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

GTA was pretty much the first sandbox game. I wouldn't even feel offended if someone told me my game was a clone of it. They are both great series.

ps3gameplayer

Been a long time since i played Driver but you couldn't get out of your car and actually do stuff could you?

[QUOTE="ps3gameplayer"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

GTA was pretty much the first sandbox game. I wouldn't even feel offended if someone told me my game was a clone of it. They are both great series.

Ilovegames1992

Been a long time since i played Driver but you couldn't get out of your car and actually do stuff could you?

Anyway, Grand Theft Auto was an open world game and it came out 5 years before Driver.

SR is a ok series in its own right, but in no way shape or form does it come close to GTA in terms of being meaningful.

It is open world so you can just ignore the plot and treat it like GTA but it does not have the "magic."

The writing and plots are vapid, the characters forgettable.

It's not serious, it's not funny, it's not anything.

Unsubstantial.

If they stopped making the series I would not even notice.