graphics on new games between pc and 360?

now that the 360 has been out for a while, will games coming out on pc be better looking and run better than games on 360? a bad example would be vegas, it was much better on 360 even with people having much better systems than the 360. but what about upcoming games on the pc like gears of war, cod4, unreal tourn 3...what can we expect to have better graphics, 360 or pc, or not much of a difference yet?

what about on my computer compared to a xbox 360?

what about my e6300, 2g or ram, and 1900gt 256mb compared to a 360?ncderek

You wont notice a big difference. PC's can handle better graphics than consoles, but most games are just ported over to PC, meaning that the PC version doesn't look any better than 360 version, except for Dx10 but your PC doesn't support it. At the worst PC games look uglier because of bad porting/optimizing.

PC's have access to better anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering but I'm not sure if your PC would handle them.

Oblivion would be good example here. Bethesda used a great amount of time optimizing the game and thanks to it, the game looks better on PC. With mods you can even make it better looking than any other game out.

Any games built ground up for the PC will look better.

Example: Crysis

Gears of War is supposed to look better on the PC. (They made tweaks for the PC versio)

Cod 4 and UT 3? Not sure, since they are being built for the 360 as well.

what about vegas or graw 1 and 2?

also, alot say you need a hdtv to get the graphics your pc gives you. if i use my monitor on a 360 is that almost if not as good as hdtv? will i get full detail and color?

The unfortunate thing is that developers are more and more designing games to run well on both the 360 and the PC, which means that the PC rarely gets to take advantage of its sometimes-superior capabilities. Lately I haven't seen anything on the PC that solidly beats out the 360 in graphics, though my PC games are a little higher resolution.

Crysis may change that, but I doubt it will be giant leaps and bounds above Unreal 3 technology such as that used in Gears of War and other games.

what about my e6300, 2g or ram, and 1900gt 256mb compared to a 360?ncderek

what about vegas or graw 1 and 2?

also, alot say you need a hdtv to get the graphics your pc gives you. if i use my monitor on a 360 is that almost if not as good as hdtv? will i get full detail and color?

ncderek

bump, answer these 2 posts please!

In terms of multiplatform titles, the difference will only be slight.

However, the end of this year should begin to mark the shift in the cycle where games designed exclusively or primarily for the PC will begin to look noticable better then what any of the current consoles have at the time.....Crysis is an example of this.

Even some ports to PC in some cases won't be "straight" ports, but rather enhancements.....Gears of War for PC is actually getting a completely new updated build of the Unreal Engine 3 compared to the Xbox 360 version.....some of this has even been echoed by Epic when the said the new content for PC Gears of War isn't really compatible with the 360 version, and also for UT3 Epic has dropped hints that the Console versions like the PS3 version might not see the full range of maps the PC version will see.

This usually happens anywhere between 2 and 3 years into a console lifecycle, where even mid-range PC hardware has noticable surpassed console capabilities, and more importantly developers start utilizing PC resources again.....this happened around 2004 during the last console lifecycle when it was early that year that games started appearing on PC with noticable features that simply weren't possible on any Consoles at the time.

I'm not saying all games on PC are suddenly gonna blow Consoles away...not at all....but going forward with games like Crysis in late 2007 we are beginning to see games with visuals and features that finally make use of the higher-end PC hardware that surpass the capabilities of consoles....and that going forward into 2008 and 2009 the gap will continue to grow....especially as the hardware capable of handling those features not only get more advanced, but the current features become more affordable and common.

In 2008 and 2009 we should see games on PC that have even better features then that of Crysis.....this is similiar to how Far Cry started the new generation of DirectX 9 engines in early 2004 that weren't possible on the last generation of Consoles at the time, which was later followed up by better looking games like HL2 and later F.E.A.R.

A factor though is the adoption rate of Vista and DirectX 10, which doesn't appear to be that high at the moment....however, I think in the next couple of years one of two things will happen, if not both.....the Vista and DirectX 10 will finally equal or surpass Windows XP, thus giving developers more incentive to utilize it....or PC developers might look to exploiting higher end features through open source software like OpenGL in game development if the market for DirectX 10 and Vista doesn't pick up.

what about my e6300, 2g or ram, and 1900gt 256mb compared to a 360?ncderek

Well, that computer not so much....that PC is equivalent to maybe an newly bought entry level value gaming PC in late 2006 (ie, a gaming PC you could get complete with the monitor for less then $1000), the only different really being that you have 2GB.....and today it's considered even more of a value system...in fact, what is considered an entry level "value system" today surpasses those specs by a bit.

So basically you're not gonna notice much of a difference in that system compared to games on Xbox 360.

also, alot say you need a hdtv to get the graphics your pc gives you. if i use my monitor on a 360 is that almost if not as good as hdtv? will i get full detail and color?

ncderek

PC screens have been HD for a long time already. Even normal 17'' pc screen has more pixels than 720p HDTV.

what about my e6300, 2g or ram, and 1900gt 256mb compared to a 360?ncderek

My rig: E6300, 8600GT. It can not handle graphic like 360. Your system too.

Nearly all multiplats for PC and 360 will look better, or a lot better on PC. It is the inherent nature of the system itself. Its hardware is always improving, nearly every month, while consoles always remain stagnant. Once developers start getting into using the power of DX10 the differences are going to start becoming extreme compared to the way they have been for the past year. I think Gears of War will probably be one of the better examples. Running at high, nearly double that of the 360, resolutions, full MSAA, super high-res textures, exceedingly fast framerates and an overall polish not available to the 360 or the PS3.

Its what PC's do best, smash consoles in terms of technical achievements.
foxhound_fox

but what kind of computer is going to be able to make gears of war look better on pc than on 360? would mine?

I don't think so. You need a system that can really cope with Direct X 10. Games made especially for PC already look better than console titles. Thing is, you don't really have a guaranteed minimum levelof performance, as you do with consoles. Plus, PC hardware keeps evolving, but console software is evolving too. When the PS2 came out, no one in their right minds would predict that a game such as God of War would be possible with 4 MB of texture RAM. Resolutions, memoryand hardware effects are the domain of the PC, but the difference is not very big in my opinion.

I think at high resolutions and high/max settings the games on pc look better than on 360

Obviously you need a strong computer