Guess PC isn't only one with pirating problems

Take a look at a popular well known torrent site thats been through a few legal issues as of late. Okay, now find the game thats been recently released for PS3 and Xbox360

what do you see? Almost 1000, as of currently, people downloading the xbox360 version for this game, illegally.

Yup, it sure is only a PC problem :roll:

This isn't a topic endorsing pirating in anyway, as I'm against it as it ruins the PC gaming industry, but the only defense people have for PC cracked copies of games is "Well, consoles have very little pirating problem"

Yeah, almost 1000 current people download that one recently released game...and thats just that one site...yup, very little pirating LOL...sure...

now, I imagine actually getting a console version crack to work may be harder, but I have no idea how that works and it may be just as easy, and please don't say in the thread, as that will only promote it more

goes to show me, pirating on consoles is as bad as PC, despite what companies and people may want you to think.

Whats your thoughts on this? Any defense against this? As all I hear is how un-pirated console games are compared to PC, but looking at this recent game, its just as bad.

Any software that can be cracked is heavily pirated. The fact of the matter is that piracy was not only extremely widespread on PS1 and especially PS2, but Sony actually tolerated and even endorsed piracy where they found it of interest (in my country you could have bought modded PlayStations in official Sony stores). Sony knew full well that they can't count on software sales in some parts of the world so why not just tap into that hardware market and establish the PlayStation brand? In retrospect, it was actually a sound strategy because people here are now willing to buy PS3's even despite the fact that the 360 is cracked simply because people are now familiar with the former brand and completely unaware of the latter (Xbox is still not officially supported here).

goes to show me, pirating on consoles is as bad as PC, despite what companies and people may want you to think.

Vendayn

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goes to show me, pirating on consoles is as bad as PC, despite what companies and people may want you to think.

Teufelhuhn

Except that Steam sales numbers kind of destroy the "games sell badly on PC" myth. Even Crysis sold millions of copies despite it's ridiculous hardware requirements (even by today's standards) and Crytek's whining that it wasn't selling well enough (apparently no game can ever sell well enough for Crytek). Console sales are still higher, but that's only because their install base is also much bigger. It also helps that crap actually sells on consoles whereas PC games tend to flop hard if they aren't critically acclaimed. Finally, devs and publishers can get away with murder in the form of DLC on the consoles whereas on PC no one in their right mind would buy DLC since we have modding communities to give us vast amounts of free, high quality extra content. All of those things make consoles a more enticing market than PC for publishers and developers.

Piracy on the X360 is a big problem. It's not as bad as on PC, but it's up there. The Wii and DS have piracy rates right on par with PC and may actually exceed the piracy rates seen on PC in some cases. PS3 is really the only system without piracy issues. So while piracy on PC is a problem, it's hardly a problem unique to the PC even when taking scope into account. It's just that consoles are now more profitable than the PC thanks to DLC and a much larger install base. Publishers and developers want an excuse to go multiplat if not outright abandon the PC so they go with the piracy angle rather than admit that their real reason is that consoles are cheaper to develop for (no need to support mod communities, blow money on high end graphics, or QA test thousands of different hardware configurations), have larger install bases, and are far more exploitable thanks to DLC.

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goes to show me, pirating on consoles is as bad as PC, despite what companies and people may want you to think.

Teufelhuhn

rising dev costs and the relative ease of making a multiplat title i think are much bigger factors. if you make a multiplat then you are getting at more potential customers.

the PS3 has 0 piracy...it hasnt been cracked at all. however despite this its hemoraging former exclusives every year just like the PC.....and the games are being shared on a cracked console and sometimes on the PC also.

if piracy really was the problem then companies would also be avoiding the 360 and the wii and the DS.

Piracy, always the red herring for lost sales. As far as PS3 piracy, give it time. Everything gets exploited eventually.

PC is just downloading the pirated game, installing and playing.....while consoles need to be physically opened and modded to play pirated games, which discourages many people. I do not believe in pirating games AT ALL though as all it does is hurt the industry as a whole.

PC is just downloading the pirated game, installing and playing.....while consoles need to be physically opened and modded to play pirated games, which discourages many people. I do not believe in pirating games AT ALL though as all it does is hurt the industry as a whole.

Zombl337

There are lots of pirated games on consoles, but I think the reason PCs get more attention is that it requires absolutely no extra effort on the part of the end-user in terms of playing back that pirated game, where they'd have to physically mod their console. There are some extremely sad examples of console piracy, too. I remember last year Sega released numbers for House of the Dead on Wii, which sold about 100k copies but was pirated over a million times, a far larger gap than any other console game.DJ_Lae

I agree with this, and I also don't think one example constitutes an argument. I'm pretty sure PC games are pirated far more than console games, I'm not an expert or anything... but I'm willing to bet 10 dollars on it.

If you seriously had to choose... would you download an iso, mount it, then run the game on your PC OR would you rather bash the insides of your console with a wrench and then use some duct tape to keep the lid open just to play apirated Ps1 game? I think the answer is pretty obvious to most gamers, but I'm not most gamers... so who knows. Maybe the process of running pirated games on a console is easier nowadays than it was back in the golden age of gaming.

Pirating games is such a buzz topic now, and it's really not that serious. Remember back in the day when people were freaking out about how VCRs could record video right off the TV? Too bad we still have TV, and the programing is just as money-making as ever. That's a bit of a strawman, but it gets the point across. It seems to me that gaming is even more popular than it was when I was growing up. Rarely did I ever see a grown man playing a Playstation when I was younger, but nowit's completely normal for people in their 30s and 40s to be playing an XBox360 or a Ps3. The demographic has expanded, and I'm pretty sure video games companies are still making a ton of money.

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]There are lots of pirated games on consoles, but I think the reason PCs get more attention is that it requires absolutely no extra effort on the part of the end-user in terms of playing back that pirated game, where they'd have to physically mod their console. There are some extremely sad examples of console piracy, too. I remember last year Sega released numbers for House of the Dead on Wii, which sold about 100k copies but was pirated over a million times, a far larger gap than any other console game.wintermute0

I agree with this, and I also don't think one example constitutes an argument. I'm pretty sure PC games are pirated far more than console games, I'm not an expert or anything... but I'm willing to bet 10 dollars on it.

If you seriously had to choose... would you download an iso, mount it, then run the game on your PC OR would you rather bash the insides of your console with a wrench and then use some duct tape to keep the lid open just to play apirated Ps1 game? I think the answer is pretty obvious to most gamers, but I'm not most gamers... so who knows. Maybe the process of running pirated games on a console is easier nowadays than it was back in the golden age of gaming.

Pirating games is such a buzz topic now, and it's really not that serious. Remember back in the day when people were freaking out about how VCRs could record video right off the TV? Too bad we still have TV, and the programing is just as money-making as ever. That's a bit of a strawman, but it gets the point across. It seems to me that gaming is even more popular than it was when I was growing up. Rarely did I ever see a grown man playing a Playstation when I was younger, but nowit's completely normal for people in their 30s and 40s to be playing an XBox360 or a Ps3. The demographic has expanded, and I'm pretty sure video games companies are still making a ton of money.

When xbox started to ban people..Had a co worker get his xbox hacked..He once told me he does nothing but download games for piracy..When he got banned i did nothing but laugh at him..Not only did he have to save up for a new xbox he lost his account online..So he got screwed twice...He bought a ps3 now because of it..Shows you that you may pirate but eventually you will get caught funny how things turn around..Ive always supported my games good companies especially..Like bioware an other companies..They work to hard to not get paid..If they get paid they make more games simple as that..