Hardscoping vs. Rage Quitting

Ok, this morning playing call of duty BO, I played against an entire clan that was beating us 3-0 in S&D. They were talking a bit of trash, then we came back to tie it up 3-3. Before the next round started, all but 1 of them rage quit. The last round was 1vs6, and of course we win the match. The game ends, and I decide to send a friendly message to the entire clan calling them out for rage quitting. I just can't stand people quitting simply because they are losing. I wasn't even that rude in my message to all of them, but I got a message back from one of them saying "ShUt Up KiD HARDSCOPER!!"

Seriously? Just because I picked off a couple of them running across the middle of the map, they think that justifies quitting the game? Since when is hardscoping frowned upon? If I quick-scoped all of them, they would call me lucky. I just don't see how rage-quitting is comparable to hardscoping, or camping, any other tactic that people might find frustrating. I've lost plenty of games to people that I thought were using a single tactic, but that didn't make me quit.

I want to know what everyone else thinks. What is worse, rage-quitters or hardscopers? While you are at it, what other things do you find annoying when you are playing?

Thats what I said!! Its like, sorry you don't like the fact that I am using a gun that is meant for picking people off from far away. I mean, if they rushed me from close range they would probably have no trouble killing me. When someone uses a certain tactic, you just have to be able to counter it. Instead they just quit. Losers.

Quickscoping is daft, the fact that using a sniper properly is called "Hardscoping" is mad on various levels.

Rage quittng because youre loosing is just unsporting. Ive quit laggy games, or games where there seems to be "foul play". But thats not nearly the same as throwing a wobbly and quiting because youre not winning. Thats what small children do when theyhit a snake onsnakes and ladders.

It just sounds like people trying to justify themselves/make excuses.

Ok, hardscoping is the opposite of quick scoping. It just means that instead of aiming down the sights for short periods of time just to shoot people I see, I aim down my sights across the map and search for people through the scope. I mean, if I know someone is in a room, and they are going to come out, I'm not going to wait until I see them to scope in on them, right!? Aim at the doorway and wait. What is so cheap about that? I only use sniper rifles on certain maps and gametypes anyways, but I just thought it was funny that someone was complaining that he had to rage quit because of it.

I don't even know what hardscoping is, lol. SteelAttack

[QUOTE="SteelAttack"]I don't even know what hardscoping is, lol. Wilfred_Owen

Rage quitting is just sad. Anyone who rage quits in any game is a poor gamer in my book. mrmusicman247

Unless you're getting out of a crap game all around. I'm still convinced Left 4 Dead 2 has the worst community of randoms. It's okay to ragequit when the opposing team isn't using mics but are spamming the chat and generally being *******s. That, and you've got a random on your team who freaks out about everything and blames you and your friends for bringing the team (ie: him) down.

I know I don't pay to have a **** time. Just a simple gg and we're out.

Ok, this morning playing call of duty BO, I played against an entire clan that was beating us 3-0 in S&D. They were talking a bit of trash, then we came back to tie it up 3-3. Before the next round started, all but 1 of them rage quit. The last round was 1vs6, and of course we win the match. The game ends, and I decide to send a friendly message to the entire clan calling them out for rage quitting. I just can't stand people quitting simply because they are losing. I wasn't even that rude in my message to all of them, but I got a message back from one of them saying "ShUt Up KiD HARDSCOPER!!"

Seriously? Just because I picked off a couple of them running across the middle of the map, they think that justifies quitting the game? Since when is hardscoping frowned upon? If I quick-scoped all of them, they would call me lucky. I just don't see how rage-quitting is comparable to hardscoping, or camping, any other tactic that people might find frustrating. I've lost plenty of games to people that I thought were using a single tactic, but that didn't make me quit.

I want to know what everyone else thinks. What is worse, rage-quitters or hardscopers? While you are at it, what other things do you find annoying when you are playing?

MusclesJAM

By the way, why is it called hard scoping anyways? It just sounds like regular sniping.

Console lingo. I don't understand it either. Kids at my school sometimes use "proscope" too, which is apparently where you bring the scope up to you but never look down it — half way between a quickscope and no-scope, I suppose...

I've played in clans where we've withdrawn because of a loss. Sniping is a ridiculous reason though and probably an attempt to cover up the fact they left because they lost their ability to aim some time in the match.

Yea, I mean, I've never even referred to it as hardscoping. I just call it sniping. That's what sniping is. I'm not gonna run around the map as if I have an assault rifle and get owned. The guns are meant to be used that way. People just hate losing, so whenever someone does something that works, they call it cheating.

Rage quitting really gets on my nerves but I just bite my tongue and keep my mouth shut. I don't see as much rage quitting in BFBC2 but then again I may be just be too involved to notice. Now I'm not trying to compare the two but I see quite a bit of rage quitting in COD, or at least from what I believe is rage quitting just because they're losing. I think it's quite ridiculous to do that, so players are pretty much going to take there reputation as a crappy player and turn into being a sore loser, yeah that helps ya.

Now to the point of "hardscoping" which is now a term I just now know of. I consider that to be the way you're suppose to use a sniper rifle. This whole quickscope, no-scope stuff is really taking away from what has always been so great about sniping. That's really all I can say on that point just because I don't much more I could add.

Shame on you for using a gun in its proper and most effective way. Seriously I've never understood why people even quick-scope on a regular basis. I can understand doing it now and again if need be, but as a tactic, it just doesn't make sense.

I dont play much COD but what the hell is hardscoping???

I dont play much COD but what the hell is hardscoping???

xxFallenAngel

I don't even think quickscoping exists in Black Ops, so you have to "hardscope"

I honestly thought that was the correct way of playing sniper. Hiding in a good spot, aiming through your scope for as long as needed, kill someone, then cycle between sniping spots on the map. And people complain about that? Are snipers now supposed to run across the map like idiots and scope at the last moment?SteelAttack

[QUOTE="SteelAttack"]I don't even know what hardscoping is, lol. Wilfred_Owen

Ok, this morning playing call of duty BO, I played against an entire clan that was beating us 3-0 in S&D. They were talking a bit of trash, then we came back to tie it up 3-3. Before the next round started, all but 1 of them rage quit. The last round was 1vs6, and of course we win the match. The game ends, and I decide to send a friendly message to the entire clan calling them out for rage quitting. I just can't stand people quitting simply because they are losing. I wasn't even that rude in my message to all of them, but I got a message back from one of them saying "ShUt Up KiD HARDSCOPER!!"

Seriously? Just because I picked off a couple of them running across the middle of the map, they think that justifies quitting the game? Since when is hardscoping frowned upon? If I quick-scoped all of them, they would call me lucky. I just don't see how rage-quitting is comparable to hardscoping, or camping, any other tactic that people might find frustrating. I've lost plenty of games to people that I thought were using a single tactic, but that didn't make me quit.

I want to know what everyone else thinks. What is worse, rage-quitters or hardscopers? While you are at it, what other things do you find annoying when you are playing?

MusclesJAM

Quiting in the middle of a game is a really punk move because it leaves one's team shorthanded and lessens the likelihood of a comeback.

That being said, I don't see why you felt a deep need to send a message, friendly or otherwise, to a bunch of guys who were obviously sore losers. You should have just marked them off as people not to play against in the future (IMHO the most fun games are competitive games, not games where six guys beat up on one guy).

On a related note, in BO is it possible for a guy to switch teams if there is a numerical imbalance in order to make things more interesting?

I don't think you can switch teams in ranked matches. You can in private matches. I know sending messages after a game can seem like a jerk move, and I have never done it to a person that quits, but this was an entire team, and entire clan, with some prefix built into their gamertags, not just a clan tag at the beginning, so they obviously took themselves seriously when it came to Black Ops. And I just don't think that rage quitting as a team is something that a clan should do. As for a way to fix this, how about showing me a DNF percentage like some sports games do, so I know how often a person quits a game before it is done, then I can choose if I want to play with them or not?

In some ways I'm sympathetic to rage-quitters, mostly because I'm not too good at online games. But it depends why, if someone is just losing a match and doesn't want to lose so they quit, that's pretty bad sportsmanship. But I've also been in situations where I've been doing so bad and frustrated with how things are going that I simply was not having any fun at all playing in the match, and any further frustration would probably result in a controller being thrown across the room. Some times you need to realise you just need to put the controller down, and/or find a better and more enjoyable use of your time at the moment. Not something that I see as good, and should be avoided, but there are situations where I can at least understand it.

I don't even know what hardscoping is, lol. SteelAttack

:P

Never heard of hardscoping prior to this thread, thats basically just what I call sniping and the way its supposed to be done. As for quitters I have no respect for them and look down upon them in any genre of game, I always see whatever game I start through unless it is taken out of my hands.

By the way, why is it called hard scoping anyways? It just sounds like regular sniping.Pvt_r3d

What's wrong with hardscoping, you just look through the scope like normal or you wait for a person to come into your scope, how is that cheap if anything it makes that game harder.

You had to send them a message over ragequitting?

Best thing to do, really, was just to laugh and move on. No need to send a message whatsoever.

Ok, this morning playing call of duty BO, I played against an entire clan that was beating us 3-0 in S&D. They were talking a bit of trash, then we came back to tie it up 3-3. Before the next round started, all but 1 of them rage quit. The last round was 1vs6, and of course we win the match. The game ends, and I decide to send a friendly message to the entire clan calling them out for rage quitting. I just can't stand people quitting simply because they are losing. I wasn't even that rude in my message to all of them, but I got a message back from one of them saying "ShUt Up KiD HARDSCOPER!!"

Seriously? Just because I picked off a couple of them running across the middle of the map, they think that justifies quitting the game? Since when is hardscoping frowned upon? If I quick-scoped all of them, they would call me lucky. I just don't see how rage-quitting is comparable to hardscoping, or camping, any other tactic that people might find frustrating. I've lost plenty of games to people that I thought were using a single tactic, but that didn't make me quit.

I want to know what everyone else thinks. What is worse, rage-quitters or hardscopers? While you are at it, what other things do you find annoying when you are playing?

MusclesJAM