Have you ever bought a game for console instead for pc because...

...it's easier and more fun to get and share trophies / achievements on the console than it would have been on PC.

Or vice versa ever regretted buying a game for pc instead for console and then regret it or have been curious about what trophies / achievements the console version would have had?

...it's easier and more fun to get and share trophies / achievements on the console than it would have been on PC.

Or vice versa ever regretted buying a game for pc instead for console and then regret it or have been curious about what trophies / achievements the console version would have had?

Justforvisit

[QUOTE="Justforvisit"]

...it's easier and more fun to get and share trophies / achievements on the console than it would have been on PC.

Or vice versa ever regretted buying a game for pc instead for console and then regret it or have been curious about what trophies / achievements the console version would have had?

TwistedShade

Anyone who cares that much about something so worthless as achivements, probably isn't a PC gamer anyway.

Achievments are cool, I'm not saying anythign bad abotu you if you like them. But to suffer through crappy graphics and performance because of them? No, I'd much rather get the more immersive gamign experience out of my games.

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Kinthalis

What do you mean? Hardcore gamers play games for achievements alone. Unless you're implying you're a casual gamer and don't care about competitive gaming :P

I do it all the time, i have a damn good pc but sometimes i want to get a game to increase my trophy level and count.

Anyone who cares that much about something so worthless as achivements, probably isn't a PC gamer anyway.

Achievments are cool, I'm not saying anythign bad abotu you if you like them. But to suffer through crappy graphics and performance because of them? No, I'd much rather get the more immersive gamign experience out of my games.

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Kinthalis

If you have a decent PC and the game isn't exclusive to a console then you should almost always buy the PC version because it's always better. People who say it isn't are lying because the PC version is always better even if just slightly.

No one on PC cares about trophies or achievements either. At all

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Anyone who cares that much about something so worthless as achivements, probably isn't a PC gamer anyway.

Achievments are cool, I'm not saying anythign bad abotu you if you like them. But to suffer through crappy graphics and performance because of them? No, I'd much rather get the more immersive gamign experience out of my games.

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Chris_Williams

You have a valid statement but the point of a video game is up to the individual really. A lot of games don't play for fun alone, some people have jobs as gamers and some are competitive only and get paid for playing games.

Only if it's a hobby it's about fun but if you had to do it all day everyday I don't think it would be that fun anymore personally

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

nameless12345

What do you mean? Hardcore gamers play games for achievements alone. Unless you're implying you're a casual gamer and don't care about competitive gaming :P

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Kinthalis

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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

What do you mean? Hardcore gamers play games for achievements alone. Unless you're implying you're a casual gamer and don't care about competitive gaming :P

markop2003

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Kinthalis

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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

markop2003

What do you mean? Hardcore gamers play games for achievements alone. Unless you're implying you're a casual gamer and don't care about competitive gaming :P

I ment achievements in the literal sense of the word, not 360's "achievements". Pro SHMUP players play them to rank on world's ladder boards and success is measured in the score points (also speed runs and the like).

no, id rather my pc show me a lot better image quality than some tittle. and most of the pc games have them anyway

I get multiplats on consoles.

- Play with friends

- Prefer controller config out of the box for every game

- PC version of the same game often poorly made, bad port

- Prefer physical to dd

- Not dragging a 45 pound iron box into my bedroom, have no room for a kb/m, my physical setup is an armchair next to the window where I drink coffee and smoke, with the tv stand 2 inches from my knees. I sit there, play games, watch movies in my underwear. Sometimes half-asleep, often just watch documentaries all night in bed with the controller as my remote.

Only time I touch Windows is if they pay me.

Been there done that.

Found a better way to live.

I have never considered a different version of a game just to show off how nerdy I am to all my friends.

Call of Duty MW3 because there's no point buying it on the PC

I hear this way too often from the "Anti-Achievement-Fraction"

I partially agree, when the guys who where in charge for the trophies of their game aren't very creative then yes, it's bland and uninspired stuff like this seeing the day of light and it was a major problem in the beginning days of the trophy system as far as I can tell with the "old" games I own (Kill 100 pigeons in GTA IV for example)

But like it know is, game devs have gotten a grip on the concept how to effectivley use trophies to further improve your gaming experience, they can lead you at / to certain points with it in the game and rise the replay value, for example when you have a decision to make that can change the outcome of a part of the story and both decisions can earn you one.

Or they can create a riddle with it even in a bloody gore action game where all you have to do is shooting and give you a task with a trophy which requires planning and thinking to achieve.

Or hint at certain secret levels, areas, or bosses who you'd never have found or even thought they could exist without using a guide or checking the web (and I heard there still ARE people who don't go online to look for solutions :P )

So, please, you have any right to hate on trophies / achievements for personal reasons and I don#t want to change that, but it would be kind to not use outdated points and moreso that can't hold themselves true longer than a icecube can stay solid near the sun ;)

Justforvisit

You can do all of that without acheivements, the achievements themselves are completely worthless. Also those collectables still exist, I've been playing Bortherhood recently and it's full of Borgias flags.

All achievements do is give you a little popup when you've hit a trigger they don't fundemently change the game.

I don't care about achievements and I equally don't care about other gamers achievements. I would also never buy a game based on the inclusion or exclusion of achievements. In addition to all of this, I am still baffled by the attraction to achievements/trophies when they are literally worthless.

no, id rather my pc show me a lot better image quality than some tittle. and most of the pc games have them anyway

Krelian-co

Absolutely not, because trophies/achievements mean NOTHING to me. I'm dead serious, I don't care about them in the least bit.

I purchase for console instead of PC sometimes because of the convenience of chilling on my couch with a controller in my hand. Tho now a lot of PC games natively support great controllers like the Xbox 360's, but I still prefer couch to computer chair.

But... I get such better graphics and framerate on the PC, and there's often MODS. Oh man, mods are so awesome. Console-only gamers have NO IDEA what they are missing. Mods can take a game like Fallout 3 or Skyrim and suddenly resurrect new excitement and different styles of gameplay out of it. A mod can literally be an entirely new and different story within the same game, or a radically changed game experience.

B==My last ps3 game was mw3 since its fun to play with friends and i its alot easier to makes firends there

[QUOTE="Justforvisit"]

I hear this way too often from the "Anti-Achievement-Fraction"

I partially agree, when the guys who where in charge for the trophies of their game aren't very creative then yes, it's bland and uninspired stuff like this seeing the day of light and it was a major problem in the beginning days of the trophy system as far as I can tell with the "old" games I own (Kill 100 pigeons in GTA IV for example)

But like it know is, game devs have gotten a grip on the concept how to effectivley use trophies to further improve your gaming experience, they can lead you at / to certain points with it in the game and rise the replay value, for example when you have a decision to make that can change the outcome of a part of the story and both decisions can earn you one.

Or they can create a riddle with it even in a bloody gore action game where all you have to do is shooting and give you a task with a trophy which requires planning and thinking to achieve.

Or hint at certain secret levels, areas, or bosses who you'd never have found or even thought they could exist without using a guide or checking the web (and I heard there still ARE people who don't go online to look for solutions :P )

So, please, you have any right to hate on trophies / achievements for personal reasons and I don#t want to change that, but it would be kind to not use outdated points and moreso that can't hold themselves true longer than a icecube can stay solid near the sun ;)

markop2003

You can do all of that without acheivements, the achievements themselves are completely worthless. Also those collectables still exist, I've been playing Bortherhood recently and it's full of Borgias flags.

All achievements do is give you a little popup when you've hit a trigger they don't fundemently change the game.

I buy game for gameplay etc so i could care less about the achievements.....

Nope. I do not care about achievements at all.

I don't get achievements for PC or console, no one gives a crap what achievements you've got, and why do games give out achievements just for things like opening inventory and completing the first level of a gameon easy?

I usually buy FIFA, GTA and the odd DBZ or racing game for console, everything else on PC.

...it's easier and more fun to get and share trophies / achievements on the console than it would have been on PC.

Or vice versa ever regretted buying a game for pc instead for console and then regret it or have been curious about what trophies / achievements the console version would have had?

Justforvisit

Not JUST for trophies, but I did this with the Assassin's Creed games.

I played the first AC on the PC, but after that I got all of them on my PS3. Aside from getting to unlock trophies, I didn't have to put up with the headache of installing the game on my PC and hoping I didn't run into any installation errors. The control scheme on the PS3 is solid, and the graphics are still fantastic, so it just seemed like the logical choice.

[QUOTE="Justforvisit"]

...it's easier and more fun to get and share trophies / achievements on the console than it would have been on PC.

Or vice versa ever regretted buying a game for pc instead for console and then regret it or have been curious about what trophies / achievements the console version would have had?

Greyfeld

Not JUST for trophies, but I did this with the Assassin's Creed games.

I played the first AC on the PC, but after that I got all of them on my PS3. Aside from getting to unlock trophies, I didn't have to put up with the headache of installing the game on my PC and hoping I didn't run into any installation errors. The control scheme on the PS3 is solid, and the graphics are still fantastic, so it just seemed like the logical choice.

No, I just buy games for my PS3 and 360 because I think they are far easier to play than on PC.

So people actually tried to find all 100 pigeons?

Hardly doubt they could do the bolded part, except they'd write something like this in the manual if the game even has one at all.

And about Brotherhood, yes, they exist there, but after you found just a few, 25 or so which really isn't that hard at all you get the option to buy maps at the merchants which show the position of all remaining flags, means it ain#t as time consuming or nerdy as it used to be and Ubisoft realised this, it's up to everyone for themselfes if they want to take the deep dive and search for themselves or after they found a certain set of numbers buy a map and get everything in about 1 day. Those flags / this method in Brotherhood also works as a great way to lead you to places you wouldn't have gone to before and show you a great scenic image or sth. like that.

Justforvisit

As for the bolded part:

1. Of course I can chose how to play the game, I did that with Crysis all the time.
2. Using the trophy DB for hints is no different than going to a web based DB or other locally stored DB, it's just a data store holding hints.

You're completely missing my point, I don't care if they're on a map or not collectables are ca bad design concept to try and encourage the player to explore the game world.

Gaining an achievement does not mean you've achieved anything. If you beat a bunch of other people at Starcraft and become the number 1 player then you've achieved that title. By getting an achievement all you've done is triggered an 'achievement', it's exaclty the same as triggering a cut scene, you haven't achieved anything. If you like achievements then fine but don't delude yourself into thinking you've actually beaten someone or done something productive.

If you really want to achieve things then go make games don't play them.

...it's easier and more fun to get and share trophies / achievements on the console than it would have been on PC.

Or vice versa ever regretted buying a game for pc instead for console and then regret it or have been curious about what trophies / achievements the console version would have had?

Justforvisit

achievements for video games are like monopoly money...no one cares...my achievements are on my shoulder and the front of my dress greens(army)

that being said

i used to buy games that i wanted on pc for console...then i got a new computer...and i have hardly touched my ps3 since. which is kinda sad when i spend more time on my psp than my ps3...

I dont know... I think I might be weird in that I give less than a rat's ass about Achievements/Trophies, let alone how they're shared or what system they're on.

Anyone who cares that much about something so worthless as achivements, probably isn't a PC gamer anyway.

Achievments are cool, I'm not saying anythign bad abotu you if you like them. But to suffer through crappy graphics and performance because of them? No, I'd much rather get the more immersive gamign experience out of my games.

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Kinthalis

[QUOTE="Justforvisit"]

I hear this way too often from the "Anti-Achievement-Fraction"

I partially agree, when the guys who where in charge for the trophies of their game aren't very creative then yes, it's bland and uninspired stuff like this seeing the day of light and it was a major problem in the beginning days of the trophy system as far as I can tell with the "old" games I own (Kill 100 pigeons in GTA IV for example)

But like it know is, game devs have gotten a grip on the concept how to effectivley use trophies to further improve your gaming experience, they can lead you at / to certain points with it in the game and rise the replay value, for example when you have a decision to make that can change the outcome of a part of the story and both decisions can earn you one.

Or they can create a riddle with it even in a bloody gore action game where all you have to do is shooting and give you a task with a trophy which requires planning and thinking to achieve.

Or hint at certain secret levels, areas, or bosses who you'd never have found or even thought they could exist without using a guide or checking the web (and I heard there still ARE people who don't go online to look for solutions :P )

So, please, you have any right to hate on trophies / achievements for personal reasons and I don#t want to change that, but it would be kind to not use outdated points and moreso that can't hold themselves true longer than a icecube can stay solid near the sun ;)

markop2003

You can do all of that without acheivements, the achievements themselves are completely worthless. Also those collectables still exist, I've been playing Bortherhood recently and it's full of Borgias flags.

All achievements do is give you a little popup when you've hit a trigger they don't fundemently change the game.

No, I haven't

I don't give a rat's ass about Achievements. Usually when I choose a console version over a PC version it has to do with local multiplayer or system requirements.famicommander

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Anyone who cares that much about something so worthless as achivements, probably isn't a PC gamer anyway.

Achievments are cool, I'm not saying anythign bad abotu you if you like them. But to suffer through crappy graphics and performance because of them? No, I'd much rather get the more immersive gamign experience out of my games.

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Articuno76

[QUOTE="Articuno76"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Anyone who cares that much about something so worthless as achivements, probably isn't a PC gamer anyway.

Achievments are cool, I'm not saying anythign bad abotu you if you like them. But to suffer through crappy graphics and performance because of them? No, I'd much rather get the more immersive gamign experience out of my games.

Really, if you find yourself playing games only because of achivements... well you're doing it wrong.

Am_Confucius

I don't give a rat's ass about Achievements. Usually when I choose a console version over a PC version it has to do with local multiplayer or system requirements.famicommander

More often then not though it's the DRM that plays a role or might cause me to double dip at much later time when the console version is dirt cheap and I decide I no longer want to deal with the DRM. More and more games use Steam or now Origin. I don't feel like I own my PC games anymore even if I have the dvd in my hand. No longer can I simply enter the cd key when I install the game. So console versions will and have been bought on that factor alone.

This is largly why I'm done with PC games outside of MMOs and RTS and even then those are on the chopping block. MMOs because I'm tired of them. TERA might honestly be my final one on the PC after I finish out my free month and maybe give it one more month. If they come to consoles great. If I wasn't so invested in seeing how the Starcraft story plays out I'd cut my losses there too but I'm hooked and willing to deal with Battle.net. I'm all in favor of RTS on consoles though. I'm hoping the Wii U's new controller opens that up more.

I buy certain games for a console instead of PC for one of two reasons:

1. My PC wouldn't be able to handle it.

2. It's a game that would be more fun to play on a console. (Such as a platformer, RPG or fighter.)

I buy certain games for PC instead of a console for one of two reasons:

1. It's a shooter, and playing shooters with a controller on a console sucks. It feels like such a chore, using a keyboard and mouse is better for shooters because it's more accurate.

2. I can't get the game for a console. (Such as World of Warcraft or Counter Strike.)

Achievements and trophies mean nothing to me. Those numbers are meaningless.

I haven't bought a console version of a PC game yet.... I have thought about it. The main hang-up is the lack of a console and the unwillingness to shell out of another gaming platform.

The main motivation is DRM. As much as Steam is worshipped it is still part DRM. After 25+ years a unfinished and broken games I simply can't see any good reason to put up with these restrictions.

On a side note...

I can see a use for achievements if they are used to add a new depth to the game. For example, the heroic dungeon achievements for World of Warcraft. They give you something to do besides the standard grind run. That to me is a good thing. However, most of the other World of Warcraft achievements are useless. Hit level 10, buy a mount, max out a crafting skill .... who cares?