How have you been affected by fourth and fifth generation console games?

I've been playing alot of Super Metroid, Metal Gear Solid, Star Ocean, Final Fantasy III (VI) and SMBW 2:Yoshi's Island latley and am feeling more and more as if video games were once maybe more of an artform.

I know there's a topic concerning the lost heart in older video games but I want to get more into how one could achieve getting that back perhaps.

I agree, but I'm not really trying to say today's worse. I just don't have any of the newest consoles, so, I figured putting this up would be a nice place to see how other people were affected by the same games I was and am.

Also (god, am I putting too many posts on my on topic) when I say "artform" I mean it was looked at by the artistic community on a higher level, there's no doubt that people judging games on that sort of playing field are either looking at games of a past time or their series that are still thriving today.

Word.

I got 360 (I had plasma and surround sound, why not), played it for about a month and
sold it. I was really disappointed by Live service, which turned into joke; bunch of
10-year olds screaming for no reason in every single game.

I ended up getting new gaming rig and for now I am sticking to PC. Most of
popular games are ported to PC sooner or later anyway. Creative

Thats not really lives fault there are 10 year olds that play games...

On topic, its not that things have changed, you'll just notice from developer to developer that some put more effort into there games to help immerse you in it. Looking at Eternal Sonata, that was such a pretty game everything was so vibrant and you can feel a great sense of art from it. Same with Okami. Some developers put more effort than others.

If anything, I would say games have become MORE artistic. The entire gaming industry is pushing to be recognised by the general public as more than just "entertainment for kids". I think all of the industry leaders today consider gaming to be an art form that is, at the very least, on the same level as movies. I happen to believe games are superior to movies for the simple fact that they are interactive, but I'm sure to find people who will disagree.

At any rate, yes- the newer consoles and games do have an impact on older games in much the same way that while an Apple IIe was once consider a state of the art machine, it is now a relic. However, I also believe that anyone who grew up with or started on older games has a special place in their heart for them that no amount of cooler graphics or more detailed stories can replace.

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you dont even have to own the consoles to know its getting worst , aside from the wii ,. nintendos the only one to always amaze me , and wii isnt an exception ps1 ps2 xbox and dc were good but nintendos been the best cant argue with a fresh control scheme to keep games from beeing the same as of ol

and actually since ps2 era it sgone back and forth , up one day down the next i think its the third party bringing o ut trash as far as new consoles its the lack of content , the cost of gett ing the content lack o f splitscreen offline multiplayer games that we all had our friends and family around to play with us, people we actaually knew could come over and have fun goldeneye n64 timesplitters marioparty mariokart64 etc - now its basically down to nintendo doing the 2-4 player thing wihile adding online as a side feature not a main feature ,, theres a difference microsoft has very few 3-4 player games all of the others are either 1 or 2 off line and loads online ,, so ya i say its affecting now ,, not in the 32 or last gen , and i wont include wii into this dilema becausse it has more splitscreen multiplayer games and content to go with the price of admission which is the standard 49,99 microsoft and sony charge 59,99 ,, funny huh but not to start a console war,

i still say its todays gen thats affecting how games are played also how they are pieced together

I disagree that games are getting less artistic for the most part. Certainly there are some newer games that have been dreadful to look at and play but for the most part I think games being released in this newest generation are moving progressively. Many games, Mass Effect for example, have shown unheard of detail in their design graphically, their music, their plot, and to a lesser degree their gameplay. What I feel is missing which, gives me a warm fuzzy feeling everytime I start up a game of galaga, is the lack of purity in modern games. In my eyes, the old platformers and arcade shooters are probably the most purest form of all gaming. Their ability to give each player the sense of depth in gameplay while, on the surface, appearing to be so simplistic is almost unachievable in modern games. I can play Galaga, Pac-Man, Super Metroid, etc. over and over and never get tired of the feeling I get each time I play them.

I think most modern games provide a rich, artistic gameplay experience but for me, they don't provide a timeless quality that brings me back more than a few times. Some how their predecessors found a secret in designing games that has largely been forgotten or ignored this day in age.

If anything, I would say games have become MORE artistic. The entire gaming industry is pushing to be recognised by the general public as more than just "entertainment for kids". I think all of the industry leaders today consider gaming to be an art form that is, at the very least, on the same level as movies. I happen to believe games are superior to movies for the simple fact that they are interactive, but I'm sure to find people who will disagree.amozarte

Interesting point. In my opinion, art makes you feel. Doesn't matter what it looks or sounds like. So I agree with what you are saying for both good and bad reasons. Some games are definitely art.