How much better can gaming get? Should we be happy? Or scared?

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#1 imetamonster
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I remember when the ps2 came out, i was like so amazed with what it could do lol Same with the xbox. Now i look at them and get grossed out. I wonder if i will do that to the xbox360 in the future? Anyways, thinking about what gaming might be like in the future, kinda scares me. Price on games are gunna upp like crazy. They are gunna be crazy expensive to make. And if the economy stays the same... Nevermind. But do you see where i am going? Somtimes i think they should just stay with the xbox360 and nowaday consoles. They are fine, and already are expensive and complicated. I know technology gets better every year, how some game companies are already finding sweet ways to enhance things. Yeah It would be sweet to have an amazing game. But would it be smart to do? Remember and still happening, Tons of ps2 games. Like a huge variety. Now with the consoles so enhanced, im seeing alot fewer games. Soon you will need to be rich to own a gaming console. Already things can be impossible to afford. So im wondering if gaming can even get any better? Or if it could, would it be a good idea? What do you think? Also, please dont be rude. This is just a thought that i have thought about.

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#2 Ultima_5
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Prices havent gone up much. I paid 70 for chrono trigger on the snes. Its always been like this.
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#3 Wings_008
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if this makes you feel any better , we are now in the middle of the current generation's life, so ther's at least two years left and yeah games are getting more and more expensive, that i am a renter not a game buyer any more
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#4 Im_single
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Once you include inflation, gaming nowadays isn't much more (If at all) more expensive than it was 30 years ago. Gaming will get better, every industry is always pushing ahead, and the gaming industry is always advancing in technology, the gaming industry is only growing and gaming culture is now entering the mainstream for the first time in a long time. Economic times are tough, and the gaming industry is being affected, though not as much as most industries. Gaming has not reached a plateau, and it is far from reaching one, I remember seeing REmake and thinking (How can gaming improve much more than this? Now look where we are.
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#5 stike22
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Games use to be better in the old days...use to to last longer as well...and be cheaper...so all I can say is games can get a lot better then they are now...all thats impressive about 70% of the games today is the graphics and the physics...not much more...the other 30% are brilliant, but eventually most of them have to end. MGS4 for example.
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One word: Holodeck. :P
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Games use to be better in the old days...use to to last longer as well...and be cheaper...so all I can say is games can get a lot better then they are now...all thats impressive about 70% of the games today is the graphics and the physics...not much more...the other 30% are brilliant, but eventually most of them have to end. MGS4 for example.stike22
The reason games used to last longer was because there wasn't really all that much to most of them compared to today, so they had to make the little bit that was there brutally hard. Also, most of those games didn't allow you to save. I do agree that the focus on graphics gets a little stupid though. Cheaper? Yeah, I don't know about that. I get lots of games for under $20. I just wait until everyone else has moved onto the next thing and the price plummets. There are some exceptions to that, but they are few and far between. I just got that awesome Indie games pack that was on sale on Steam for $10 this weekend. Just Trials 2 alone was worth the price. I remember Final Fantasy III for the SNES being $80 at release. Yeah, that game was an outlier, but games are cheaper now? Cheaper than when? The Atari days? You have to factor inflation in too. If anything, I'd say I get way more game for my dollar now than ever before. The key is not buying into the hype of the brand new games when there are generally plenty of good ones from the past few years I haven't played.
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#8 zarshack
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I remember when the ps2 came out, i was like so amazed with what it could do lol Same with the xbox. Now i look at them and get grossed out. I wonder if i will do that to the xbox360 in the future? Anyways, thinking about what gaming might be like in the future, kinda scares me. Price on games are gunna upp like crazy. They are gunna be crazy expensive to make. And if the economy stays the same... Nevermind. But do you see where i am going? Somtimes i think they should just stay with the xbox360 and nowaday consoles. They are fine, and already are expensive and complicated. I know technology gets better every year, how some game companies are already finding sweet ways to enhance things. Yeah It would be sweet to have an amazing game. But would it be smart to do? Remember and still happening, Tons of ps2 games. Like a huge variety. Now with the consoles so enhanced, im seeing alot fewer games. Soon you will need to be rich to own a gaming console. Already things can be impossible to afford. So im wondering if gaming can even get any better? Or if it could, would it be a good idea? What do you think? Also, please dont be rude. This is just a thought that i have thought about.

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Gaming isnt really getting anymore expensive, back in the day when the consoles were released it cost just as much to buy games as it does now (atleast after we hit 3D games). and there are always things that can be improved with the systems. Personally i think this gen really lacks RAM and it annoys me because i would like to see some really massive amazing worlds with tons of stuff going on but with the RAM with these current consoles the kind of games i'd really like to see wont be able to run with the hardware out at this point which is a real shame.

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#9 BiancaDK
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Gaming cannot get better, and if it did, it could only be measured in the smallest of incriments.
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#10 wyan_
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The notion that gaming is more expensive compared to the past is utterly ridiculous. Atari 2600's used to sell for 200 to 400 dollars. Games used to be as much as 99.99. Even when the NES came out is was the equivalent of paying over 400 dollars today and that was if you got the cheap setup. I like that consoles and controllers keep advancing. I buy all the consoles in each generation and by the second year of each generation, I'm jaded and want better graphics, better control and new gaming experiences. Gaming can still get phenomenally better. There are so many areas that gaming technology could explore:

3-D Viewing

Motion Control/Detection

Virtual Reality

Brain Control

Face/Voice Recognition

etcetera etcetera!

All these things could lead to more satisfying new game experiences or even improve upon things we already like. Of course, there's always the bread and butter to improve on such as, graphics, physics and sound.

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I would like to see a virtual reality console.
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I would like to see a virtual reality console.DecadesOfGaming
.. Yeah, they should hurry up and finish making the Matrix :D Anyway, I think consoles should have long lifespans, as it gives game developers a chance to create good stuff for the system. I agree with new consoles as long as it provides benefit and not just some useless marketing ploy (DSi?).
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Gaming is no more expensive than it used to be, on average games take the same amount of time to get through that they used to, and we should definitely be excited about the future. If anything, the technological steps taken by the current crop of consoles as compared to last gen have been smaller than what I was accustomed to after the previous two generations.

The PS1, Saturn, and N64 pioneered 3D gaming. I was like a wide-eyed kid the first time I played Mario 64 (actually I kinda was a wide-eyed little kid but whatever) and it all seemed so surreal and captivating. Then the Dreamcast came along and proved that 3D gaming could be taken to another level. I was floored when I saw Sonic Adventure and Soul Calibur for the first time. Then came Halo. Those textures...I remember the first time I walked up to a tree. I can't think of any other time in my life, past or future, where I have ever or will ever be more mesmerized by tree bark. It was just that mind-blowing.

And the sad thing is, I have yet to see anything quite that exciting come from the current gen. But who knows, maybe I'm just jaded. Anyone else feel like I do?

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[QUOTE="stike22"]Games use to be better in the old days...use to to last longer as well...and be cheaper...so all I can say is games can get a lot better then they are now...all thats impressive about 70% of the games today is the graphics and the physics...not much more...the other 30% are brilliant, but eventually most of them have to end. MGS4 for example.SpaceMoose
The reason games used to last longer was because there wasn't really all that much to most of them compared to today, so they had to make the little bit that was there brutally hard. Also, most of those games didn't allow you to save. I do agree that the focus on graphics gets a little stupid though. Cheaper? Yeah, I don't know about that. I get lots of games for under $20. I just wait until everyone else has moved onto the next thing and the price plummets. There are some exceptions to that, but they are few and far between. I just got that awesome Indie games pack that was on sale on Steam for $10 this weekend. Just Trials 2 alone was worth the price. I remember Final Fantasy III for the SNES being $80 at release. Yeah, that game was an outlier, but games are cheaper now? Cheaper than when? The Atari days? You have to factor inflation in too. If anything, I'd say I get way more game for my dollar now than ever before. The key is not buying into the hype of the brand new games when there are generally plenty of good ones from the past few years I haven't played.

Seriously the games were just better thats all...Mario 64 is better then Mario galaxy...Ocarina of Time is better then Twilight Princess... Crash bandicoot, spyro the dragon are both dead now. but the old games were brilliant. Sonic has lost it and the games now are easier and boring. FF got boring after FF10. The first Halo still felt the best in its time. Metal Gear solid on PS1 was the best one. GTA san Andreas is much, much better then GTA4. I could keep going on but I will leave it there. And those games weren't hard thats the standard difficulty of what games should be. They are just to easy and too short now days, I don't buy games to look at them, I buy them for a challenge and for fun. There are very few great games out there now, and almost all of them still fell the are lacking something.
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cant really comment about Final Fantasy seeing as there has not yet been any current gen version of it imo.
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#16 SpaceMoose
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[QUOTE="stike22"] Seriously the games were just better thats all...Mario 64 is better then Mario galaxy...Ocarina of Time is better then Twilight Princess... Crash bandicoot, spyro the dragon are both dead now. but the old games were brilliant. Sonic has lost it and the games now are easier and boring. FF got boring after FF10. The first Halo still felt the best in its time. Metal Gear solid on PS1 was the best one. GTA san Andreas is much, much better then GTA4. I could keep going on but I will leave it there. And those games weren't hard thats the standard difficulty of what games should be. They are just to easy and too short now days, I don't buy games to look at them, I buy them for a challenge and for fun. There are very few great games out there now, and almost all of them still fell the are lacking something.

Yeah, those are all sequels. The jump to 3D graphics could only happen one time and it's long past now. There is no recapturing that moment in time, so I don't know what you expect out of a bunch of sequels. I don't know if all of those games were "better" necessarily so much as they were a bigger leap over what came before them. Sequels are generally "more of the same" by definition. That is why they are sequels. Is that all you are playing, sequels to long-running franchises? Because that's every single game you mentioned. What about a game like Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Braid, or Burnout Paradise (which I realize is also a sequel, but it does a lot that's new) for example?
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$70 in 1997 is $90 now. Feel lucky you aren't paying as much as you really should be.

Gaming will continue to improve far beyond what our measly imaginations can come up with now. Go back to the mid-'80's with a copy of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace and ask them if its real. They will not be able to comprehend how such a film was created.

Seriously the games were just better thats all...Mario 64 is better then Mario galaxy (No...) ...Ocarina of Time is better then Twilight Princess (No...)... Crash bandicoot, spyro the dragon are both dead now. but the old games were brilliant. Sonic has lost it and the games now are easier and boring. FF got boring after FF10. The first Halo still felt the best in its time. Metal Gear solid on PS1 was the best one (No...). GTA san Andreas is much, much better then GTA4 (No...). I could keep going on but I will leave it there. And those games weren't hard thats the standard difficulty of what games should be. They are just to easy and too short now days, I don't buy games to look at them, I buy them for a challenge and for fun. There are very few great games out there now, and almost all of them still fell the are lacking something.stike22

Please, keep going on. Most games that are released today are far better than their predecessors. Ocarina of Time is definitely not the best 3D Zelda. Majora's Mask improved and refined on it. Wind Waker further improved and refined. And Twilight Princes even further improved, refined and expanded on it.

With an increase in technology, comes an increase in overall quality. Once you take off the pink nostalgia goggles, you will be able to see what I am talking about.
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The only issue I can see is that with new technologies games are getting more and more accesible to more and more people. Which means gaming addiction will become more widespread (WoW anyone?). So yes ... the better and more immserive games become the more worrying it is that more people will simply lose themselves in virtual worlds as opposed to the real one. But then this happens to people with books, and tv, and film, and tetris, and any other form of media out there. I totally dont agree with gaming becoming more expensive but then Im a purely PC gamer. Cost of a powerful PC has plummeted since the early 90's and games have stayed more or less the same but with more amazing deals always cropping up.
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Can they get any better??? Personally I think developer skills are degrading or are not even evolving.
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#20 DOF_power
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Gaming is no more expensive than it used to be, on average games take the same amount of time to get through that they used to, and we should definitely be excited about the future. If anything, the technological steps taken by the current crop of consoles as compared to last gen have been smaller than what I was accustomed to after the previous two generations.

The PS1, Saturn, and N64 pioneered 3D gaming. I was like a wide-eyed kid the first time I played Mario 64 (actually I kinda was a wide-eyed little kid but whatever) and it all seemed so surreal and captivating. Then the Dreamcast came along and proved that 3D gaming could be taken to another level. I was floored when I saw Sonic Adventure and Soul Calibur for the first time. Then came Halo. Those textures...I remember the first time I walked up to a tree. I can't think of any other time in my life, past or future, where I have ever or will ever be more mesmerized by tree bark. It was just that mind-blowing.

And the sad thing is, I have yet to see anything quite that exciting come from the current gen. But who knows, maybe I'm just jaded. Anyone else feel like I do?

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id Software with their PC game Quake I had more impact on the gaming industry (and not just with regards to 3D) then all the PS1/Saturn/N64 games combined.

Preprocessing optimization (tricks) used to this day by every 3D game out there, internet multiplayer system besides LAN, QuakeC Mods (user created content).

And those Halo textures combined the console low resolution simply paled compared to the contemporary RTCW, Max Payne and Serious Sam: SE available on the PC.

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Depends on how you define "better". Better graphics? Possible. Better in-game story? They can't do that for years so I don't know if they will ever get "better".
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#22 Soadforever1
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this is why pc gaming will be much suitable in the future.everyone will be downloading games instead of paying 100 euros for each game.

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#23 XIntoTheBlue
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It is hard to tell on how to answer those questions. As long as creative minds continue to enter the gaming industry, games will continue to get better. Not everyone in the industry will be a helpful addition in turning out great games, obviously. It's like sports, in that regard. Not everyone makes it to the hall of fame, right? Well, not everyone in the industry is not going to reach that equivalent. There will always be crappy games coming out, but there will also be great games that will come out too.

As for the poster saying the older generation of consoles pioneered 3D gaming, I had to laugh at that claim. The consoles did not revolutionize 3D gaming. It was the games themselves (or more notably, their developers), and noticeably the earlier PC games of the time, like DOOM.