I just don't understand cheaters

I just don't understand cheaters. Why do they even play? What's the point? Do they think it's cute or do they think that they're cool or what?

For example, there's a new Modern Warfare 2 unlimited grenade launcher mod or glitch that recently is happening. I ran into a couple of douche-bags today spamming this thing. Actually, there were two of them, one on the other team and the other on the team I was on. Basically, the mod or glitch let's them shoot grenade launchers like a machine gun with unlimited ammos. It's so freakin' annoying! And this was over XBOX Live, probably through a hacked 360!

And don't get me started with that old javelin glitch!

Where did this come from? Doesn't Inifinity Ward know about this?

Anyway, my point is why the hell do these idiots even play? What's the point of it? It takes away the whole point of fair competitive online gaming.

I bet a lot of these punks are kids and a few moronic older punks who thinks this is fun or noobs who wants to rack up points by cheating. Whatever, it's probably because they suck at the game!

Sorry for the rant but things like this tick me off! Games should be fun but things like this ruin it!

I guess they have fun watching how people react. I can't imagine the amount of human rage they stirred up during the game :lol:

It's because they have no real skill at the game whatsoever so they resort to cheats

It's hilarious to see how they are so pathetic to win and go up in the leaderboards just to show they are better except without cheats.

Any cheater is a piece of trash

Yet another MW2 glitch?

Let me see if i can list em all.

- Infinite Care package glitch
- Javelin gltich
- Broken 1887 dual shotgun range
- Afghan map glitch
- Broken tactical knife "lunge" range
- and now infinite grenade launcher

I'm sure Im missing at least a couple more.

I am sorry but I have to blame IW for this. Every game has cheaters who will exploit these glitches anyway they can, it's upto the devs to spot them and get rid of them. I have played quite a few online games this gen, and MW2 has been the buggiest most infruraiting online experience of this gen for me. Their refusal to fix the Javelin glitch and the range of those 1887s ruined the multiplayer for me. No other developer has been this lazy in fixing stuff. I have put in hours 70 hours in MGO and Resistance, over 100 hours in KZ2, Warhawk and Uncharted 2, and have yet to experience a single map glitch in any of those games. None of those games have had glitches like the infinite care package, grenade launcher and javelin glitch.... none whatsoever.

It's BS. It's lame. And it's IW's fault. Simple as that.

Best online experience of the generation... my ass!

It both infuriates me and puzzles me how such an anticipated sequel to a successful game can have SO MANY glitches. It's astounding that Infinity Ward even let these get by Beta phases, MW1 had none that impacted the online play this much. They need to get on the ball.PistolGripPump

MW2 didnt even have a beta.

They did inhouse testing on that stuff...................

no one really does. Its jsut for pathertic losers who have nothing else to do and who suck at playing games. They need to cheat in order to win becuase the get embarrassed if they play normally like everyone else. A real game has talent and knows how to actually play a game and rank his way through them properly, no by using friends or glitches or bugs to help him along the way.

You pretty much said. It's a fast way to rack up points and get on the leaderboards quicker. majadamus

I experienced this just today...but it happens for everyone, not just the person who does the glitch.

When I was playing every person, including me, had infinite grenades, launchers, and could fire their gun infinitely w/o needing to reload.

It was annoying yes that the game was hacked, but I don't think you can call it "cheating" if you don't get an unfair advantage out of it.

When it comes to single player I see absolutely nothing wrong with cheating.

When it comes to single player I see absolutely nothing wrong with cheating.

Pixel-Pirate

Well yeah, because if anyone's experience is ruined, it's just yours. But when you start hacking games in multiplayer modes, that is when cheating becomes despicable. It ruins the fun and competition for everyone, and in games where losing = losing WiFi/online/leaderboard points, it is REALLY infuriating. I'd rather be in teh middle of the leaderboard through actualy effort than at the top through cheating.

Just to clarify about the infinte ammo one you are talking about, that affects the whole game actually. If you had a grenade launcher out in that game, you could totally do it right back to them, so next time use that default grenade launcher class on top and do some work at least if you don't back out right away.

As for all the problems with this game, I wonder how much of it would become this bad if it wasn't so popular. Almost every game has some glitches and it is just a matter of time until somebody finds them out. That being said, even when stuff like the javelin glitch was still out there, I maybe ran into one guy every dozen or so games, and he would almost always go negative.

Sometimes it's fun to win.

I would argue it reflects our society as a whole, at least here in the States.

Nobody wants to learn the ropes or improve the hard way; everyone wants to be rock stars without paying their dues.

When Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting first hit I played consistently and took my licks along with my victories. What blew my mind was how many high ranked player were pulling disconnects when they lost, preserving scores and rankings they clearly didn't earn. To this day I still don't understand the point of claiming a ranking not honestly earned; it's pathetic for so many reasons.

Back in the day when SFII hit arcades, I learned and became better by getting beaten. Over and over and over again.

The reason you don't understand them Ask is because they are beneath you. You shouldn't bother trying to understand a cheater anymore than you would try and understand the mentality of a cockroach.

I would argue it reflects our society as a whole, at least here in the States.

Nobody wants to learn the ropes or improve the hard way; everyone wants to be rock stars without paying their dues.

When Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting first hit I played consistently and took my licks along with my victories. What blew my mind was how many high ranked player were pulling disconnects when they lost, preserving scores and rankings they clearly didn't earn. To this day I still don't understand the point of claiming a ranking not honestly earned; it's pathetic for so many reasons.

Back in the day when SFII hit arcades, I learned and became better by getting beaten. Over and over and over again.

The reason you don't understand them Ask is because they are beneath you. You shouldn't bother trying to understand a cheater anymore than you would try and understand the mentality of a cockroach.

Grammaton-Cleric

Cheaters have the mentality of a cockroach? Really? You don't think that's a bit much?

It's pretty simple really; people like to win, and since video games are just games, meant to be fun, cheating in them does no real harm. Therefore, a lot of people have no real problem doing it.

As I child I cheated while playing Monopoly a lot. Was it a big deal? No. Because it was a board game.

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

I would argue it reflects our society as a whole, at least here in the States.

Nobody wants to learn the ropes or improve the hard way; everyone wants to be rock stars without paying their dues.

When Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting first hit I played consistently and took my licks along with my victories. What blew my mind was how many high ranked player were pulling disconnects when they lost, preserving scores and rankings they clearly didn't earn. To this day I still don't understand the point of claiming a ranking not honestly earned; it's pathetic for so many reasons.

Back in the day when SFII hit arcades, I learned and became better by getting beaten. Over and over and over again.

The reason you don't understand them Ask is because they are beneath you. You shouldn't bother trying to understand a cheater anymore than you would try and understand the mentality of a cockroach.

_BlueDuck_

Cheaters have the mentality of a cockroach? Really? You don't think that's a bit much?

It's pretty simple really; people like to win, and since video games are just games, meant to be fun, cheating in them does no real harm. Therefore, a lot of people have no real problem doing it.

As I child I cheated while playing Monopoly a lot. Was it a big deal? No. Because it was a board game.

Cheating and winning are two separate things entirely.

And really, if the entire crux of your argument is that games are supposed to be fun, I pose this questions: why cheat at all if fun is the only goal? What's fun about cheating and why is winning so important to these people?

As a point of fact, it's the cheaterswho take these games far too seriously; they make the choice to play unfairly because nothing matters except the outcome. They are more concerned with the appearance of skill rather than actually possessing said skill or earning those scores and rankings, which is pathetic.

But you're correct about the cockroach analogy being harsh; the cockroaches didn't do anything wrong and don't deserve derision.

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

I would argue it reflects our society as a whole, at least here in the States.

Nobody wants to learn the ropes or improve the hard way; everyone wants to be rock stars without paying their dues.

When Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting first hit I played consistently and took my licks along with my victories. What blew my mind was how many high ranked player were pulling disconnects when they lost, preserving scores and rankings they clearly didn't earn. To this day I still don't understand the point of claiming a ranking not honestly earned; it's pathetic for so many reasons.

Back in the day when SFII hit arcades, I learned and became better by getting beaten. Over and over and over again.

The reason you don't understand them Ask is because they are beneath you. You shouldn't bother trying to understand a cheater anymore than you would try and understand the mentality of a cockroach.

_BlueDuck_

Cheaters have the mentality of a cockroach? Really? You don't think that's a bit much?

It's pretty simple really; people like to win, and since video games are just games, meant to be fun, cheating in them does no real harm. Therefore, a lot of people have no real problem doing it.

As I child I cheated while playing Monopoly a lot. Was it a big deal? No. Because it was a board game.

It does affect those who'd very much prefer to play it fair and square though. There are cheaters, liars, and stealers - all of which are despicable.

There's a certain category of gamers that really enjoy griefing. It's just something that you have to get used to.

There's a certain category of gamers that really enjoy griefing. It's just something that you have to get used to.

Dire_Weasel

Sometimes it's fun to win.

_BlueDuck_

Not when you win by cheating.

It's fun when you win fairly and more rewarding. It's rewarding because you see yourself improving. If you cheat you never improve and will always stay a loser.

Winning by cheating is pointless.

There's a certain category of gamers that really enjoy griefing. It's just something that you have to get used to.

Dire_Weasel

Sometimes it's fun to win.

_BlueDuck_

It is because it is fun to cheat. No, let me rephrase that. It is fun if you know how to cheat, too. If you don't know how to cheat, and someone else does, it isn't fun. It is only fun when you are at the same level of knowledge as them.

It is because it is fun to cheat. No, let me rephrase that. It is fun if you know how to cheat, too. If you don't know how to cheat, and someone else does, it isn't fun. It is only fun when you are at the same level of knowledge as them.

Goods_Merchant

People cheat all the time whether it be in games , exams or whatever .EmpCom