I Think Blu-Ray Discs might not be enough space nextgen?

I hope so. I hope we don't run into a problem with Blu ray disc space like we did with DVD. I am afraid because next gen is barley about to start and I have read this about a PS4 game....

spoken by Sony's Jim Ryan has said...

"For our big first-party games, weve encouraged the studios to make as much use of the BD50 [50-gigabyte Blu-Ray drive] as they possibly can some of these things run to like 45 gigs," he says.

So its obvous sooner or later some of the devs are going to have disc space problems maybe right? Since games are already coming in at 45 Gigs on a max possible 50GB disc.

Is it possible to compress Blu-Ray data like MS has compressed DVD data for Xbox 360? ANyone know for sure? Tried Googling it but Google failed to answer my question.

Need someone with software or Blu-ray disc knowledge to comment.

If not than I think later next gen storage will be a problem.

If it supports Blu ray BDXl then space shouldn't be a problem.

More space? Most definitely not. The amount of space on a Blu Ray disc is more than sufficient.

They can use compression on Blu-ray discs. My main concern is not the disc size (I think it'll be fine, even the best looking PC games are nowhere near 45GB) but the drive read speed. The PS3's Blu-ray drive is painfully slow (I think it's a 1X drive), which is part of the reason for some of its mandatory installs and the main reason for the platform's slow load speeds in general. I would imagine both Sony and Microsoft's new consoles will have significantly faster drives - or I hope, anyway.DJ_Lae

PS3 bluray was painfully slow, but was a 2X drive. PS4 is going to have a 6X BD drive which should read at around 27MB/s. nearly twice as fast as the 360's 12x DVD drives which can read at 15.85MB/s.

It's still painfully slow compared to most HDDs which have read speeds over 100 MBps. SSDs are even faster, some reviews I read said upwards of 500 MBps! They are too expensive to put in a console, but we will still have games that are installed on the HDD.

One cool thing I learned today was just how fast the 8GB GDD5 RAM really is. Compared to the 27 MB/s speed of a 6X Bluray drive, the 8GB GDDR5 RAM has a bandwith of 176 GBps which comes out to be 180,224 MBps. Isnt Skyrim only 4.7GB on PC? They could technically load the entire game in the RAM when you boot it up and never have to read from the BD or the HDD. 

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]One cool thing I learned today was just how fast the 8GB GDD5 RAM really is. Compared to the 27 MB/s speed of a 6X Bluray drive, the 8GB GDDR5 RAM has a bandwith of 176 GBps which comes out to be 180,224 MBps. Isnt Skyrim only 4.7GB on PC? They could technically load the entire game in the RAM when you boot it up and never have to read from the BD or the HDD. 

S0lidSnake

With the official High Res texture pack, and the Hearthfire and Dawnguard content (not Dragonborn), Skyrim takes up over 10Gb on my PC.

I would assume that for next-gen game developers will be using higher resolution textures (and higher bitrate sound samples) as well, because the memory is no longer a bottleneck, and both art and sound assets end up being the main space hogs.  So I doubt that future games in the Elder Scrolls series (or similar games with large open worlds) could be loaded fully into memory.

The whole idea of next-gen would be to push the boundaries of what is possible, so I can see that extra memory being eaten up rather quickly by higher quality assets.  What I would expect, though, is to see future games open up more with larger and more detailed levels, probably with more NPCs shown at any one time on screen.

50GB discs should be perfectly fine for a long time yet. Should they not, isn't there a way to get 100GB blu-rays playing though a firmware update?MonoSilver

I was curious about this also. Could they update firmware to use a 100GB disc later on?

Not really a big deal maybe the end of next gen we might see two disc games. Highly unlikely though.

Disc 1, Disc 2, Disc 3, Disc 4....anyone remembers those?

Disc 1, Disc 2, Disc 3, Disc 4....anyone remembers those?

Justforvisit

Not an issue at all.

PS3 devs used blu-ray for pre-rendered cutscenes, uncompressed audio and redundant data.

Blu-Ray isn't a necessity.

Much better to have a machine that can render its own assets and decompress on the fly rather than having all that schit on a disk.

You do?  Are you asking us or telling us?  The topic is amusing when read in the form of a question.  Back on topic, nah, they are fine, throw is disk 2 if need be.

blu ray discs are fine....i haven't seen any game yet to use double layered option for blu ray....