If Digital Download is the future then how long?

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#1 Doug-358
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Digital Download is pretty much the future right but how long will it take so it doesn`t take that long to download? I kind a guy who still like to own his games and anyone that says it is a joke need to wake up. Let make this comaprison it is like a buying a car at full price then the guys you can only keep if for three years. If you are a console players do you think Wii 2, PS4, and XBOX 720 will go all digtial? I may be attached to physical media but I believe it is going back to its original function a storage medium. Physical media will always be here but with its original purpose of storing stuff on them. Am I right or not?

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#2 Chilloutcolin
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As a person whose internet connection downloads at 40kB/s I really hope the digital only age is a long way off, but I do see it happening. The internet where I live is shocking in places and I imagine there are other places worldwide that are similar. Digital only gaming wont arise until there is the infrastucture to support it and I certainly dont see that happening by the PS4 etc. but the next gen after that it could be possible. Personally I'd prefer it to maintain physical distribution forever but I'm realistic and dont see that happening.

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#3 XaosII
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it takes me less time to download an 8 GB game than it does for me to get into my car, drive to a gamestop, come back and install it. Never mind ordering it online and waiting for shipping times.

For me, physical media could be entirely dead for all i care.

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#4 muthsera666
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I used to hate the idea of DD, but now, I'm a firm supporter. My Steam collection is over 230, and the holiday sale is adding a huge number to that. Borderlands is about 10.5 gigs to download, and Steam estimates a hair under six hours to download, so that's not really that bad. For much of the "civilized world", DD is pretty close to becoming the main source of gaming. Heck, right now, there are almost 3 million Steam users online.
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I tried downloading games from steam, my max was 120kb/s, and I left it overnight. The next day I got a message from my ISP saying i'm using up a lot of bandwidth. I only buy the games now.
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it takes me less time to download an 8 GB game than it does for me to get into my car, drive to a gamestop, come back and install it. Never mind ordering it online and waiting for shipping times.

For me, physical media could be entirely dead for all i care.

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That means absolutely nothing because I have no idea how far you live from a gamestop or how much time any of these things might take you to do. Anyway I don't mind DD myself and my download times seem pretty decent but I much prefer getting the physical version of games myself. I like DD for getting those older and/or rare games where physical copies are hard to find. As long as DD remains as an optional means to getting games and physical copies are still supported well then I'm cool with it.
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It's here for the PC and mobile devices - it'll be a little longer for consoles, because the big three are going to have to come up with some semblance of game permanence if they expect people to buy all their games digitally. There's also the issue of retailers, who don't want digital distribution to take off any more than it already has, though they'll matter less as time goes on. For the PC, it's a non-issue for me - digital all the way. Whether I go Steam or GoG or D2D or even Impulse, I can download and install games quicker than I can visit my local EB or electronics store to buy a PC game (if they even have it, with the limited stocks of PC games in stores), come back, and install it manually. It's also easier to back up, as I can transfer my downloaded files (be they steam files or a self-contained executable from D2D) to a network drive, where I can simply move them back or re-run the installer if I want to install the game again without downloading it. But where the PC platform is very open, the closed systems of consoles create problems. No one has any idea if we'll be able to play Wii, PS3, or 360 downloaded games on the next iteration of hardware - whether the companies allow our licenses to transfer over or even if the hardware will physically be able to emulate that content. At least on the PC end there are tons of (thankfully) crazy people programming emulators and creating user patches for old games so that they continue to be playable on newer systems.
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#8 ionusX
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normally id agree but its not for the same reasons as above

its ALOT harder to get a company like 2k or gearbox or w/e to push an indie game through made by some dude in his basement. on the internet its INFINITELY easier. indipendant developers were almost non-existant before flash came into our lives and with the advent of digital distribution those single dudes can form companies and really get their games moving.

before we had digital distribution.. indie developers were nearly non-existant.

could you imagine trying to get say.. manchurium or blueberry garden into a game box.. no even EA would take you seriously.

could you imagine trying to convince activion to throw out deathspank into the amrket before then? never.. not once would it happen, why? your one ddue with a low budget games with nothing i cant do with the teams already here or its to risque to put in a box and risk losing sales due to a bad esrb rating.

now.. steam has a library of a few hundred games made in peoples basements with alot of success as a whole (not as individuals, but there are exceptions, such as deathspank, or manchurium or the path)

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All you have to do is look at this weeks Steam sale to see why its so popular on PC.

Its also a win-win situtation. Games cost less to us, they cost less to produce.

I've been buying new-releases from places like cdwow/shopto though as I don't mind waiting a few days to own the box copy.

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I would say next gen they have full digital downloads for most to all games, but will still be retial games.

PC was proven it can be very successfull.

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All you have to do is look at this weeks Steam sale to see why its so popular on PC.

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I second that. Look at the Bethesda pack.

  • Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
  • Fallout 3 Game of the Year Version
  • Fallout: New Vegas
  • The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Version
  • The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Version
  • Rogue Warrior

All for $70.

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0. Digital download will soon die due to the end of net neutrality.

Your ISP is no longer going to be under any obligation to allow you to download 30 gigs of games a day.

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#13 muthsera666
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0. Digital download will soon die due to the end of net neutrality.

Your ISP is no longer going to be under any obligation to allow you to download 30 gigs of games a day.

Pixel-Pirate
Why would you be downloading 30 gigs of games a day?
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

0. Digital download will soon die due to the end of net neutrality.

Your ISP is no longer going to be under any obligation to allow you to download 30 gigs of games a day.

muthsera666

Why would you be downloading 30 gigs of games a day?

More to the point, your ISP is not under any obligation to do so now. They could charge by the kilobit if they wanted to. Fortunately there's a lot of competition to keep prices in check.

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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

0. Digital download will soon die due to the end of net neutrality.

Your ISP is no longer going to be under any obligation to allow you to download 30 gigs of games a day.

myke2010

Why would you be downloading 30 gigs of games a day?

More to the point, your ISP is not under any obligation to do so now. They could charge by the kilobit if they wanted to. Fortunately there's a lot of competition to keep prices in check.

They could charge an astronomical fee just for access. But it wouldn't make fiscal sense. There are always possibilities, but that doesn't mean that they are viable.
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I think games will continue to take about the same amount of time to download in the future as they do now. Download speeds will increase, but so will the size of the files to download. 5 years ago a game taking up 5GB was seen as unusual, now it seems more surprising if it is less than that. I've just started downloading the FEAR pack from Steam and that is saying it is 17GB. DD works well on PCs because there is competition. No-one owns the platform, so anyone can choose to setup a company and start selling games. On consoles the biggest problem for DD is MS, Sony and Nintendo - so long as they have 100% control of the content and pricing on their services then DD will suffer because there is no motive for them to reduce prices. There are plenty of examples of XBLA games on Live that have been there since 2006 that are still trying to charge the same full price as when they were new.
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

0. Digital download will soon die due to the end of net neutrality.

Your ISP is no longer going to be under any obligation to allow you to download 30 gigs of games a day.

muthsera666
Why would you be downloading 30 gigs of games a day?

Well it could be a possibility. I'm not sure how much some of the big games clock in for size but there's been some multi-disk 360 titles at about 6.something gigs each. I think GT5 and MGS4 are pretty hefty games as well.
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In the near future (lets say next console generation) digital distribution will be a standard, but of course physical media will still be available in stores. It has already become the standard for PC games as only major titles see physical retail releases.

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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

0. Digital download will soon die due to the end of net neutrality.

Your ISP is no longer going to be under any obligation to allow you to download 30 gigs of games a day.

myke2010

Why would you be downloading 30 gigs of games a day?

More to the point, your ISP is not under any obligation to do so now. They could charge by the kilobit if they wanted to. Fortunately there's a lot of competition to keep prices in check.

They could but i don't think it will be a huge difference. I think it will become who ever doesn't cap it will gain alot of new customers

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[QUOTE="myke2010"]

[QUOTE="muthsera666"] Why would you be downloading 30 gigs of games a day?muthsera666

More to the point, your ISP is not under any obligation to do so now. They could charge by the kilobit if they wanted to. Fortunately there's a lot of competition to keep prices in check.

They could charge an astronomical fee just for access. But it wouldn't make fiscal sense. There are always possibilities, but that doesn't mean that they are viable.

People are under the misconception there are thousands of providers to choose from.

Several areas of the country, even huge ones, have ONE provider in the area. You choose them or go home. They can charge you whatever they want because you have no choice.

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I go two ways on this i love the game cases and then there would be no collectors editions :cry:. And then there is the console will be tons smaller and you can transport it very very easily.

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#22 wiouds
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DD need to prove better hardcopy. DDhas not done it yet. For every strength DD have over hardcopy it has a weakness.

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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

0. Digital download will soon die due to the end of net neutrality.

Your ISP is no longer going to be under any obligation to allow you to download 30 gigs of games a day.

Archangel3371
Why would you be downloading 30 gigs of games a day?

Well it could be a possibility. I'm not sure how much some of the big games clock in for size but there's been some multi-disk 360 titles at about 6.something gigs each. I think GT5 and MGS4 are pretty hefty games as well.

While that is true, that does not indicate a daily download of anything near 30 gb.
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Not in australia it cant be. I love my discs anyways, never want it all digital no matter how fast internet gets, and even with unlimited usage per month.
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I like Digital Downloads, my normal download speed is around 1.25 Mbps.

You can still own a game with DD - all you need to do is save the installation program on another drive or in its own folder you create.

The advantage of some of the DD websites is they allow you unlimited reinstalls, such as when you buy a new PC, or if you had to replace a hard drive.

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#26 UnknownElement4
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Since PC gaming is already mostly digital, it's only a matter of time since... the consoles follow the PC trend.

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well now things are going down hill for the internet fcc just passed a law that basically charges ya by what you use rather then a flat fee with that said i hope it never takes over ,

cause then wed need to be a millionaire just to play games at that time

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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="myke2010"]

More to the point, your ISP is not under any obligation to do so now. They could charge by the kilobit if they wanted to. Fortunately there's a lot of competition to keep prices in check.

Pixel-Pirate

They could charge an astronomical fee just for access. But it wouldn't make fiscal sense. There are always possibilities, but that doesn't mean that they are viable.

People are under the misconception there are thousands of providers to choose from.

Several areas of the country, even huge ones, have ONE provider in the area. You choose them or go home. They can charge you whatever they want because you have no choice.

A good point but all it will take is that ONE provider to push it that far then you will see One more then another then another look at cell phone providers how many were there when cell phones hit the larger public market? How many have come and gone up until now, how many companies still provide land lines, how many still accept a rotary phone in there costumer service calls? speculation is fun but it hardly holds any ground until it becomes truth.

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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="muthsera666"] They could charge an astronomical fee just for access. But it wouldn't make fiscal sense. There are always possibilities, but that doesn't mean that they are viable.Oniresurrect

People are under the misconception there are thousands of providers to choose from.

Several areas of the country, even huge ones, have ONE provider in the area. You choose them or go home. They can charge you whatever they want because you have no choice.

A good point but all it will take is that ONE provider to push it that far then you will see One more then another then another look at cell phone providers how many were there when cell phones hit the larger public market? How many have come and gone up until now, how many companies still provide land lines, how many still accept a rotary phone in there costumer service calls? speculation is fun but it hardly holds any ground until it becomes truth.

I'm pretty sure setting up a cellphone network is not the same as setting up land lines for internet connection.

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[QUOTE="Oniresurrect"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

People are under the misconception there are thousands of providers to choose from.

Several areas of the country, even huge ones, have ONE provider in the area. You choose them or go home. They can charge you whatever they want because you have no choice.

Pixel-Pirate

A good point but all it will take is that ONE provider to push it that far then you will see One more then another then another look at cell phone providers how many were there when cell phones hit the larger public market? How many have come and gone up until now, how many companies still provide land lines, how many still accept a rotary phone in there costumer service calls? speculation is fun but it hardly holds any ground until it becomes truth.

I'm pretty sure setting up a cellphone network is not the same as setting up land lines for internet connection.

Its not that far off after all every cell tower has to be connected to something, not to mention setup is not the issue its service.

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#31 wiouds
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With physical utility, it is not uncommon to have a legal but control monopoly. The reason is that they want to limit the number going into a place.