If you could only pick 4 of these rpgs on a Sony:

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#1 captainqwark20
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Well I have to say I learned a lot from Legacy and hope I can get much more help here. I learned many things: I learned you could jack the train in San Andreas and...... Point is that something happened, and I can only get 4 of the listed games, now keep in mind that these are the only rpgs I do not have for Playstation. If I am correct I have ALL THE OTHER ONES. So just tell me which 4you would buy since I know the other games will be gone later and I can only get 3-             Yeah I am scraping toward the bottom, but I am trying to collect most if not all the rpgs, and these are the ones I am missing, so which 3 should I get before I am sure all of them won't be there tomorrow.
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#2 Dudersaper
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Threads of Fate Battle Hunter Star Ocean Shadow Tower
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#3 rawsavon
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In order: Tales of Destiny 2 Star Ocean: second story Saiyuki: Journey West Tales of Destiny
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#4 Samslayer
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I've only played Star Ocean, Saga Frontiers and Eternal Eyes.

Out of the 4 that I've play Star Ocean is by far the best.

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Star Ocean: The Second Story and Tales of Destiny II are by far the best of those games. Saiyuki,Tales of Destiny, and Threads of Fate are decent as well but none are great.
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I havent played any of those :|

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#7 rawsavon
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I havent played any of those :|

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*sees last reply in other thread where you said you grew up on PS1* for shame ...
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Shadow tower Shadow tower Shadow tower Shadow tower
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In order:
Tales of Destiny 2
Star Ocean: second story
Saiyuki: Journey West
Tales of Destinyrawsavon


you nailed it RAW.

personally, I'd swtich Tales of Desiny and Saiyuki in the order, but we're definitely agreed on the four playable games of that bunch

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I've not played any of these games except Shadow Tower and Threads of Fate.

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]
In order:
Tales of Destiny 2
Star Ocean: second story
Saiyuki: Journey West
Tales of DestinyTheKungFool



you nailed it RAW.

personally, I'd swtich Tales of Desiny and Saiyuki in the order, but we're definitely agreed on the four playable games of that bunch

This is a strange new world we live in >_> [spoiler] in regards to all the recent agreement [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]
In order:
Tales of Destiny 2
Star Ocean: second story
Saiyuki: Journey West
Tales of Destinyrawsavon



you nailed it RAW.

personally, I'd swtich Tales of Desiny and Saiyuki in the order, but we're definitely agreed on the four playable games of that bunch

This is a strange new world we live in >_> [spoiler] in regards to all the recent agreement [/spoiler]



I know right? :lol:

I'm disagreing with your next post just to keep us in balance :P

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#13 evilross
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Shadow Tower is a really interesting game. I personally love it.

Its the succsessor to King's Field and the forerunner to Demon's Souls. Worth playing for anyone who is a fan of either series or a fan of From Software RPG's

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Whatever the other 3 are, you should definately get Star Ocean: The Second Story.

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Definitely get Star Ocean. A word of warning though, its pretty buggy.

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Shadow Tower, Saga Frontier, Star Ocean, Threads of Fate
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Tales of Destiny 1, 2 Azure Dreams Threads of Fate
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I'd say Tales of Destiny, Tales of Destiny 2, Star Ocean 2, and Saiyuki.
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Shadow Tower is pretty terrible. I'm a HUGE King's Field fan, probably like the biggest ever. Shadow Tower is often compared to King's Field, and I thought it was crap on a disc.

And someone said Shadow Tower is the successor to King's Field? Uhhh, wouldn't King's Field successor be King's Field II and King's Field: The Ancient City?

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Shadow Tower is pretty terrible. I'm a HUGE King's Field fan, probably like the biggest ever. Shadow Tower is often compared to King's Field, and I thought it was crap on a disc.

And someone said Shadow Tower is the successor to King's Field? Uhhh, wouldn't King's Field successor be King's Field II and King's Field: The Ancient City?

Emerald_Warrior



D'Oh *facepalm*

I just picked up a copy of "Shadow Tower" off ebay ($11) because I read a bunch of online reviews that said it was a successor and better than the King's Field titles
(I was going to give King's Field a go based on your recoomends, and switched to Shadow Tower based on all the compasions and comments) :lol:

I still plan to pick up the King's Field games once I find them for a reasonable price

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[QUOTE="riou7"]

I havent played any of those :|

rawsavon

*sees last reply in other thread where you said you grew up on PS1* for shame ...

:lol: Doesn't mean I played all the rpgs on PS1 :P

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#22 evilross
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Shadow Tower is pretty terrible. I'm a HUGE King's Field fan, probably like the biggest ever. Shadow Tower is often compared to King's Field, and I thought it was crap on a disc.

And someone said Shadow Tower is the successor to King's Field? Uhhh, wouldn't King's Field successor be King's Field II and King's Field: The Ancient City?

Emerald_Warrior

Shadow Tower is a great game, and its the bridge between the King's Field series and the Demon's Souls games.

It has a lot in common with the King's Field games as far as design goes, but at the same time there are a lot of new gameplay ideas thrown into the mix, and a lot of those gameplay ideas don't reappear in a From Software game untill the much later Demon's Souls, not King's Field : The Ancient City. The way you spend SP, the way you level up, your character stats, active blocking, to name a few that made the cut to Demon's Souls almost completely unchanged.

I'd also say that the general art design and atmosphere in Shadow Tower shows the direction From Software wanted to go. Shadow Tower is pretty grim and in some placed downright unsettling, while the later Kings Field: TAC goes back to a more traditional, albeit depressing, medieval setting.

So in my opinion, yes Shadow Tower is a successor to King's Field, and a forerunner to Demon's Souls. And its a good game in it's own right.

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#23 Emerald_Warrior
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[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Shadow Tower is pretty terrible. I'm a HUGE King's Field fan, probably like the biggest ever. Shadow Tower is often compared to King's Field, and I thought it was crap on a disc.

And someone said Shadow Tower is the successor to King's Field? Uhhh, wouldn't King's Field successor be King's Field II and King's Field: The Ancient City?

evilross

Shadow Tower is a great game, and its the bridge between the King's Field series and the Demon's Souls games.

It has a lot in common with the King's Field games as far as design goes, but at the same time there are a lot of new gameplay ideas thrown into the mix, and a lot of those gameplay ideas don't reappear in a From Software game untill the much later Demon's Souls, not King's Field : The Ancient City. The way you spend SP, the way you level up, your character stats, active blocking, to name a few made the cut to Demon's Souls almost completely unchanged.

I'd also say that the general art design and atmosphere in Shadow Tower shows the direction From Software wanted to go. Shadow Tower is pretty grim and in some placed downright unsettling, while the later Kings Field: TAC goes back to a more traditional, albeit depressing, medieval setting.

So in my opinion, yes Shadow Tower is a successor to King's Field, and a forerunner to Demon's Souls. And its a good game in it's own right.

I don't disagree with most of your points. But Shadow Tower, which isn't a direct-sequel to King's Field came out in 1999. King's Field: The Ancient City, which is a direct sequel, came out in 2002. So not only is it a direct-sequel, but it came out AFTER Shadow Tower. I think what you're trying to say is that Shadow Tower is the precursor to Demon's Soul, not that it's the successor to King's Field. Which I wouldn't disagree with. Shadow Tower is a lot different than King's Field, which is why I didn't like it.

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id pick saga frontier anyday of the week. sigh... sometimes i feel im the only one that ever loved that game.
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id pick saga frontier anyday of the week. sigh... sometimes i feel im the only one that ever loved that game.frannkzappa


it was a tough game to love bro :lol:

it felt to me like it was futile little mini-stories, but no real cohesion or purpose to most of the goings-ons, and even less direction.
and I really only liked 3 of the 7 or 8 "quests".

haven't really liked much of the sequels either; "unlimited saga" and "romancing saga" were horrid, and "saga frontier II" was tollerable, if unspectacular.

I think part of the issue was the expectations that came with the "SquareSoft" logo in those days; if you'd already played Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy VII, XenoGears, Vagrant Story and such, and were expecting that sort of quality, "Saga Frontier" was a fairly big letdown

(personal opinion of course, i respect the fact that you enjoyed it)



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i guess most of my love comes from it being my first rpg. i was at that age (8 or 9) when every one of the characters stories seemed amazing and fantastical.
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#27 evilross
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[QUOTE="evilross"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Shadow Tower is pretty terrible. I'm a HUGE King's Field fan, probably like the biggest ever. Shadow Tower is often compared to King's Field, and I thought it was crap on a disc.

And someone said Shadow Tower is the successor to King's Field? Uhhh, wouldn't King's Field successor be King's Field II and King's Field: The Ancient City?

Emerald_Warrior

Shadow Tower is a great game, and its the bridge between the King's Field series and the Demon's Souls games.

It has a lot in common with the King's Field games as far as design goes, but at the same time there are a lot of new gameplay ideas thrown into the mix, and a lot of those gameplay ideas don't reappear in a From Software game untill the much later Demon's Souls, not King's Field : The Ancient City. The way you spend SP, the way you level up, your character stats, active blocking, to name a few made the cut to Demon's Souls almost completely unchanged.

I'd also say that the general art design and atmosphere in Shadow Tower shows the direction From Software wanted to go. Shadow Tower is pretty grim and in some placed downright unsettling, while the later Kings Field: TAC goes back to a more traditional, albeit depressing, medieval setting.

So in my opinion, yes Shadow Tower is a successor to King's Field, and a forerunner to Demon's Souls. And its a good game in it's own right.

I don't disagree with most of your points. But Shadow Tower, which isn't a direct-sequel to King's Field came out in 1999. King's Field: The Ancient City, which is a direct sequel, came out in 2002. So not only is it a direct-sequel, but it came out AFTER Shadow Tower. I think what you're trying to say is that Shadow Tower is the precursor to Demon's Soul, not that it's the successor to King's Field. Which I wouldn't disagree with. Shadow Tower is a lot different than King's Field, which is why I didn't like it.

Yea, thats what I was saying pretty much, I wasn't calling it a sequel, but a successor. Shadow Tower was made after King's Field II (US), but before Eternal Ring and King's Field : The Ancient City.

Eternal Ring kind of went no where. Not a bad game, in my opinion, but the gameplay direction that From Software used for that game was dropped completely. King's Field: The Ancient City played almost just like the other two US released KF games, with more in common with the first King's Field game... the tight, interconnected, passageways... not really much open areas or NPC interaction.

When Demon's Souls was released, it really harkened back to Shadow Tower, not the King's Field games. It's just do similar in character design, attributes, leveling, skills, art, and atmosphere it almost seems like a direct "next gen" reboot in some ways.

Dark Souls, however, in my opinion, makes a really interesting blend. It still uses the Shadow Tower basic gameplay that Demon's Souls built on, but the game world in Dark Souls feels much more like a King's Field game. Everything is interconnected, shortcuts open up to places far away... you know what I'm saying.

Its just realy cool to me to have been able to actually have been there to play all these really great games as they were released, and now, over 15 years later, sit around and look at how the RPG's that From Software have made evolved over time.

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#28 evilross
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[QUOTE="evilross"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Shadow Tower is pretty terrible. I'm a HUGE King's Field fan, probably like the biggest ever. Shadow Tower is often compared to King's Field, and I thought it was crap on a disc.

And someone said Shadow Tower is the successor to King's Field? Uhhh, wouldn't King's Field successor be King's Field II and King's Field: The Ancient City?

Emerald_Warrior

Shadow Tower is a great game, and its the bridge between the King's Field series and the Demon's Souls games.

It has a lot in common with the King's Field games as far as design goes, but at the same time there are a lot of new gameplay ideas thrown into the mix, and a lot of those gameplay ideas don't reappear in a From Software game untill the much later Demon's Souls, not King's Field : The Ancient City. The way you spend SP, the way you level up, your character stats, active blocking, to name a few made the cut to Demon's Souls almost completely unchanged.

I'd also say that the general art design and atmosphere in Shadow Tower shows the direction From Software wanted to go. Shadow Tower is pretty grim and in some placed downright unsettling, while the later Kings Field: TAC goes back to a more traditional, albeit depressing, medieval setting.

So in my opinion, yes Shadow Tower is a successor to King's Field, and a forerunner to Demon's Souls. And its a good game in it's own right.

I don't disagree with most of your points. But Shadow Tower, which isn't a direct-sequel to King's Field came out in 1999. King's Field: The Ancient City, which is a direct sequel, came out in 2002. So not only is it a direct-sequel, but it came out AFTER Shadow Tower. I think what you're trying to say is that Shadow Tower is the precursor to Demon's Soul, not that it's the successor to King's Field. Which I wouldn't disagree with. Shadow Tower is a lot different than King's Field, which is why I didn't like it.

I think we are pretty much on the same page. I'm not saying Shadow Tower is the sequel to King's Field, but the successor to the series, at least in part. Shadow Tower was released before both Eternal Ring and The Ancient City. Shodow Tower clearly has roots from King's Field, but is very different. Demon's Souls clearly has roots in Shadow Tower, but in turn it is different as well.

Shadow Tower was kind of like a bridge game... moving on from one idea to the next. It just seemed to take a very long time for the whole thing to come full circle.