If you're a pc and console gamer....
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Hmm, lets see
PC has better controls (Variety, can use both), better graphics, mods, better online, you can customize and play how you want. No contest if you alredy have a good PC, i have a PS3, only use it for sports games.
I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
Ernesto_basic
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Depends on the genre.
If it's a RTS, WRPG, Adventure, or FPS, I'd take the PC version anyday, hands down, no questions asked. All because of mouse and keyboard controls.
But if it's something like Devil May Cry 4, sports, or racing, I'd go with consoles.You need a controller for these types of games.
It also depends on how capable your PC is of course. But assuming that it can play the latest games, this is how I would choose.
Depends on the genre.
If it's a RTS, WRPG, Adventure, or FPS, I'd take the PC version anyday, hands down, no questions asked. All because of mouse and keyboard controls.
But if it's something like Devil May Cry 4, sports, or racing, I'd go with consoles.You need a controller for these types of games.
It also depends on how capable your PC is of course. But assuming that it can play the latest games, this is how I would choose.
ASK_Story
Sigh, PC"S USE GAMEPADS, why do people always say certain games need gamepads, PC's have hundreds of them, u can even use the 360 controller. The PC version of Devil may Cry was the best version, jst read a few reviews. Also, there are mnay amazing racing sims on PC you cannot egt on PC like GTR, Live for Speed, these are true sims unlike Forza and Gran Turismo. Yes, sports you are better off getting a console. the beauty of Pc is you can sue what you want, not forced to play a certain way.
Games like Fallout 3 & Far Cry 2 are going to be better on PC
A game like Mass Effect and GTA IV, I play those on the first system it comes out on. In my opinion it's not worth waiting 6 months just for better graphics and a few tweaks when the story could be spoiled for you during that time.
Then other games action adventure, TPS, racers, fighting, sports games are usually better on consoles.
[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Depends on the genre.
If it's a RTS, WRPG, Adventure, or FPS, I'd take the PC version anyday, hands down, no questions asked. All because of mouse and keyboard controls.
But if it's something like Devil May Cry 4, sports, or racing, I'd go with consoles.You need a controller for these types of games.
It also depends on how capable your PC is of course. But assuming that it can play the latest games, this is how I would choose.
leper-messiahs
Sigh, PC"S USE GAMEPADS, why do people always say certain games need gamepads, PC's have hundreds of them, u can even use the 360 controller. The PC version of Devil may Cry was the best version, jst read a few reviews. Also, there are mnay amazing racing sims on PC you cannot egt on PC like GTR, Live for Speed, these are true sims unlike Forza and Gran Turismo. Yes, sports you are better off getting a console. the beauty of Pc is you can sue what you want, not forced to play a certain way.
Well, I don't use gamepads because I just hate third-party game controllers.:P
But Logitech is pretty good.
[QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
leper-messiahs
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
[QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
leper-messiahs
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
Are u stupid? I alrady said virtually all GPUs, even the low ebd ones come with 512 MB VRAM? I ask again, are u stupid? I never said yuo don't need lots of vram, i said all Video cards come with 512 now, ezcept the low end ones which people playing on high resolutions wouldn't buy anyway.
Liar? everything I said was true, if you know hardware, which you don't.
You realise a Gaming Pc is also a workstation right? Thats the whole point, and the reason it costs more, it is a multi-function device, Thus the extra cost, wow, some peopl shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wow you're really rude, aren't you? No, I'm not stupid... in fact, I'd think twice about casting those stones when you can't even spell correctly.
There wasn't anything wrong with what I stated in my original post, because as you have missed (or maybe reading comprehension is something else you've yet to master, eh?), I qualified it all with "from my experience".
It really is simple:
PC gaming is expensive. It doesn't matter if you can use your PC as a productivity tool, because when we're comparing the cost: performance ratio with a game console (again, we're talking about buying the two for games ONLY).
Can mods work well? Yeah, but by and large, the great ones are in the vast minority of the total ones released. Do yourself a favor and read some benchmarks for all of the video cards out there... despite some having cheaper (read slower RAM), they don't support high resolutions equally.
Besides, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't do your work on the same PC you game on. Why you may ask? Well, because it isn't safe.
[QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
leper-messiahs
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
Are u stupid? I alrady said virtually all GPUs, even the low ebd ones come with 512 MB VRAM? I ask again, are u stupid? I never said yuo don't need lots of vram, i said all Video cards come with 512 now, ezcept the low end ones which people playing on high resolutions wouldn't buy anyway.
Liar? everything I said was true, if you know hardware, which you don't.
You realise a Gaming Pc is also a workstation right? Thats the whole point, and the reason it costs more, it is a multi-function device, Thus the extra cost, wow, some peopl shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wow you're really rude, aren't you? No, I'm not stupid... in fact, I'd think twice about casting those stones when you can't even spell correctly.
There wasn't anything wrong with what I stated in my original post, because as you have missed (or maybe reading comprehension is something else you've yet to master, eh?), I qualified it all with "from my experience".
It really is simple:
PC gaming is expensive. It doesn't matter if you can use your PC as a productivity tool, because when we're comparing the cost: performance ratio with a game console (again, we're talking about buying the two for games ONLY).
Can mods work well? Yeah, but by and large, the great ones are in the vast minority of the total ones released. Do yourself a favor and read some benchmarks for all of the video cards out there... despite some having cheaper (read slower RAM), they don't support high resolutions equally.
Besides, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't do your work on the same PC you game on. Why you may ask? Well, because it isn't safe.
Again, never said vram makes no difference , i ask agaiin, can u read? I SAID ALL VIDEO CARDS COME WITH 512 VRAM AS IT IS, and anyone playing on high resolutions would have a good enough video card. UNDERSTAND? Everyone knows vram makes a difference, but it sin;t the only factor weither, a 4870 with 512 MB ram is actually just as fast as the GTX 260 with 900 MB VRAm becasue it uses faster ram. Ignorant muc?
Working on a game Pc is not safe?
BWHAHAHA
BWHAHAHA
WOW, heard it all. It is perfectly safe, been doing it for years. what a stupid comment. Explain why it sin't safe to do work on a gaming PC? That is total BS. gaming and working on the same PC is perfectly fine, and they do not cause issue for one or the other, retarded thing to say. How is working on a word document on gaming Pc not safe, explain that i need a laugh, Perhaps the dumbest, most ignorant post I have seen in ages, and that is saying something.
Do you know what a CISSP is?
Games, among other things introduce potential vulnerabilities.
[QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
Ernesto_basic
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
Are u stupid? I alrady said virtually all GPUs, even the low ebd ones come with 512 MB VRAM? I ask again, are u stupid? I never said yuo don't need lots of vram, i said all Video cards come with 512 now, ezcept the low end ones which people playing on high resolutions wouldn't buy anyway.
Liar? everything I said was true, if you know hardware, which you don't.
You realise a Gaming Pc is also a workstation right? Thats the whole point, and the reason it costs more, it is a multi-function device, Thus the extra cost, wow, some peopl shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wow you're really rude, aren't you? No, I'm not stupid... in fact, I'd think twice about casting those stones when you can't even spell correctly.
There wasn't anything wrong with what I stated in my original post, because as you have missed (or maybe reading comprehension is something else you've yet to master, eh?), I qualified it all with "from my experience".
It really is simple:
PC gaming is expensive. It doesn't matter if you can use your PC as a productivity tool, because when we're comparing the cost: performance ratio with a game console (again, we're talking about buying the two for games ONLY).
Can mods work well? Yeah, but by and large, the great ones are in the vast minority of the total ones released. Do yourself a favor and read some benchmarks for all of the video cards out there... despite some having cheaper (read slower RAM), they don't support high resolutions equally.
Besides, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't do your work on the same PC you game on. Why you may ask? Well, because it isn't safe.
Again, never said vram makes no difference , i ask agaiin, can u read? I SAID ALL VIDEO CARDS COME WITH 512 VRAM AS IT IS, and anyone playing on high resolutions would have a good enough video card. UNDERSTAND? Everyone knows vram makes a difference, but it sin;t the only factor weither, a 4870 with 512 MB ram is actually just as fast as the GTX 260 with 900 MB VRAm becasue it uses faster ram. Ignorant muc?
Working on a game Pc is not safe?
BWHAHAHA
BWHAHAHA
WOW, heard it all. It is perfectly safe, been doing it for years. what a stupid comment. Explain why it sin't safe to do work on a gaming PC? That is total BS. gaming and working on the same PC is perfectly fine, and they do not cause issue for one or the other, retarded thing to say. How is working on a word document on gaming Pc not safe, explain that i need a laugh, Perhaps the dumbest, most ignorant post I have seen in ages, and that is saying something.
Do you know what a CISSP is?
Games, among other things introduce potential vulnerabilities.
So does virtually all, software, does that mean it isn't safe to work on Pc at all, even windows has vulnerabilities, even servers. get real, it is perfectly fine to do work on a gaming PC, no one in their right mind buys 2 PC's out of paranoia. The dumbest thing I have ever read.
[QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
leper-messiahs
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
Are u stupid? I alrady said virtually all GPUs, even the low ebd ones come with 512 MB VRAM? I ask again, are u stupid? I never said yuo don't need lots of vram, i said all Video cards come with 512 now, ezcept the low end ones which people playing on high resolutions wouldn't buy anyway.
Liar? everything I said was true, if you know hardware, which you don't.
You realise a Gaming Pc is also a workstation right? Thats the whole point, and the reason it costs more, it is a multi-function device, Thus the extra cost, wow, some peopl shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wow you're really rude, aren't you? No, I'm not stupid... in fact, I'd think twice about casting those stones when you can't even spell correctly.
There wasn't anything wrong with what I stated in my original post, because as you have missed (or maybe reading comprehension is something else you've yet to master, eh?), I qualified it all with "from my experience".
It really is simple:
PC gaming is expensive. It doesn't matter if you can use your PC as a productivity tool, because when we're comparing the cost: performance ratio with a game console (again, we're talking about buying the two for games ONLY).
Can mods work well? Yeah, but by and large, the great ones are in the vast minority of the total ones released. Do yourself a favor and read some benchmarks for all of the video cards out there... despite some having cheaper (read slower RAM), they don't support high resolutions equally.
Besides, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't do your work on the same PC you game on. Why you may ask? Well, because it isn't safe.
Again, never said vram makes no difference , i ask agaiin, can u read? I SAID ALL VIDEO CARDS COME WITH 512 VRAM AS IT IS, and anyone playing on high resolutions would have a good enough video card. UNDERSTAND? Everyone knows vram makes a difference, but it sin;t the only factor weither, a 4870 with 512 MB ram is actually just as fast as the GTX 260 with 900 MB VRAm becasue it uses faster ram. Ignorant muc?
Working on a game Pc is not safe?
BWHAHAHA
BWHAHAHA
WOW, heard it all. It is perfectly safe, been doing it for years. what a stupid comment. Explain why it sin't safe to do work on a gaming PC? That is total BS. gaming and working on the same PC is perfectly fine, and they do not cause issue for one or the other, retarded thing to say. How is working on a word document on gaming Pc not safe, explain that i need a laugh, Perhaps the dumbest, most ignorant post I have seen in ages, and that is saying something.
Do you know what a CISSP is?
Games, among other things introduce potential vulnerabilities.
So does virtually all, software, does that mean it isn't safe to work on Pc at all, even windows has vulnerabilities, even servers. get real, it is perfectly fine to do work on a gaming PC, no one in their right mind buys 2 PC's out of paranoia. The dumbest thing I have ever read.
You sound like you've never worked in-industry (corporate or government). Try getting games or something to that effect to be signed off by your CISO/CIO (chief security officer... if you even know what that is).
Here's how I do (own a PS3 and PC).
The most important question is this: is this a game I would want to play local co-op in (if I even can)? If the answer is yes, then I'm probably getting the PS3 version. Similarly, if I think it's a game that I could play with a girlfriend, even if it's only single player, then that would push me to console version.
If not, the only other thing I look as it gamepad and developer support. Like, even though Orange Box didnt support gamepads on most of the HL2/HL2 Ep. 1, I got the PC version simply because I knew Valve was going to provide no support for the PS3 version while there would be tremendous support for the PC version. But if a game is going to have gamepad support on both and I'm just going to play it alone, then clearly the PC version is the better choice for me (and if it doesn't, I take a good look at the PC control scheme to decide if it annoys me...for example, I hate pointing and clicking to move characters- its not intuitive).
You sound like you've never worked in-industry (corporate or government). Try getting games or something to that effect to be signed off by your CISO/CIO (chief security officer... if you even know what that is).
Ernesto_basic
Just ignore him- it's clear that he's not trying to be reasonable or rational. He said that all modern GPUs come with 512mb vram. I bought a 3850 earlier this year with only 256mb.
[QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
leper-messiahs
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
Are u stupid? I alrady said virtually all GPUs, even the low ebd ones come with 512 MB VRAM? I ask again, are u stupid? I never said yuo don't need lots of vram, i said all Video cards come with 512 now, ezcept the low end ones which people playing on high resolutions wouldn't buy anyway.
Liar? everything I said was true, if you know hardware, which you don't.
You realise a Gaming Pc is also a workstation right? Thats the whole point, and the reason it costs more, it is a multi-function device, Thus the extra cost, wow, some peopl shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wow you're really rude, aren't you? No, I'm not stupid... in fact, I'd think twice about casting those stones when you can't even spell correctly.
There wasn't anything wrong with what I stated in my original post, because as you have missed (or maybe reading comprehension is something else you've yet to master, eh?), I qualified it all with "from my experience".
It really is simple:
PC gaming is expensive. It doesn't matter if you can use your PC as a productivity tool, because when we're comparing the cost: performance ratio with a game console (again, we're talking about buying the two for games ONLY).
Can mods work well? Yeah, but by and large, the great ones are in the vast minority of the total ones released. Do yourself a favor and read some benchmarks for all of the video cards out there... despite some having cheaper (read slower RAM), they don't support high resolutions equally.
Besides, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't do your work on the same PC you game on. Why you may ask? Well, because it isn't safe.
Again, never said vram makes no difference , i ask agaiin, can u read? I SAID ALL VIDEO CARDS COME WITH 512 VRAM AS IT IS, and anyone playing on high resolutions would have a good enough video card. UNDERSTAND? Everyone knows vram makes a difference, but it sin;t the only factor weither, a 4870 with 512 MB ram is actually just as fast as the GTX 260 with 900 MB VRAm becasue it uses faster ram. Ignorant muc?
Working on a game Pc is not safe?
BWHAHAHA
BWHAHAHA
WOW, heard it all. It is perfectly safe, been doing it for years. what a stupid comment. Explain why it sin't safe to do work on a gaming PC? That is total BS. gaming and working on the same PC is perfectly fine, and they do not cause issue for one or the other, retarded thing to say. How is working on a word document on gaming Pc not safe, explain that i need a laugh, Perhaps the dumbest, most ignorant post I have seen in ages, and that is saying something.
Do you know what a CISSP is?
Games, among other things introduce potential vulnerabilities.
So does virtually all, software, does that mean it isn't safe to work on Pc at all, even windows has vulnerabilities, even servers. get real, it is perfectly fine to do work on a gaming PC, no one in their right mind buys 2 PC's out of paranoia. The dumbest thing I have ever read.
You sound like you've never worked in-industry (corporate or government). Try getting games or something to that effect to be signed off by your CISO/CIO (chief security officer... if you even know what that is).
I am talking about working on your home PC not at the office idiot, WOW, are you retarded? I have worked in It for 10 years and been building PC's for 15, and I know when someone thinks they have a clue but really don't, that would be you.
Honestly, you'd want to do your work on a seperate machine at home as well (especially when you're dealing with sensitive data).
[QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
leper-messiahs
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
Are u stupid? I alrady said virtually all GPUs, even the low ebd ones come with 512 MB VRAM? I ask again, are u stupid? I never said yuo don't need lots of vram, i said all Video cards come with 512 now, ezcept the low end ones which people playing on high resolutions wouldn't buy anyway.
Liar? everything I said was true, if you know hardware, which you don't.
You realise a Gaming Pc is also a workstation right? Thats the whole point, and the reason it costs more, it is a multi-function device, Thus the extra cost, wow, some peopl shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wow you're really rude, aren't you? No, I'm not stupid... in fact, I'd think twice about casting those stones when you can't even spell correctly.
There wasn't anything wrong with what I stated in my original post, because as you have missed (or maybe reading comprehension is something else you've yet to master, eh?), I qualified it all with "from my experience".
It really is simple:
PC gaming is expensive. It doesn't matter if you can use your PC as a productivity tool, because when we're comparing the cost: performance ratio with a game console (again, we're talking about buying the two for games ONLY).
Can mods work well? Yeah, but by and large, the great ones are in the vast minority of the total ones released. Do yourself a favor and read some benchmarks for all of the video cards out there... despite some having cheaper (read slower RAM), they don't support high resolutions equally.
Besides, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't do your work on the same PC you game on. Why you may ask? Well, because it isn't safe.
Again, never said vram makes no difference , i ask agaiin, can u read? I SAID ALL VIDEO CARDS COME WITH 512 VRAM AS IT IS, and anyone playing on high resolutions would have a good enough video card. UNDERSTAND? Everyone knows vram makes a difference, but it sin;t the only factor weither, a 4870 with 512 MB ram is actually just as fast as the GTX 260 with 900 MB VRAm becasue it uses faster ram. Ignorant muc?
Working on a game Pc is not safe?
BWHAHAHA
BWHAHAHA
WOW, heard it all. It is perfectly safe, been doing it for years. what a stupid comment. Explain why it sin't safe to do work on a gaming PC? That is total BS. gaming and working on the same PC is perfectly fine, and they do not cause issue for one or the other, retarded thing to say. How is working on a word document on gaming Pc not safe, explain that i need a laugh, Perhaps the dumbest, most ignorant post I have seen in ages, and that is saying something.
Do you know what a CISSP is?
Games, among other things introduce potential vulnerabilities.
So does virtually all, software, does that mean it isn't safe to work on Pc at all, even windows has vulnerabilities, even servers. get real, it is perfectly fine to do work on a gaming PC, no one in their right mind buys 2 PC's out of paranoia. The dumbest thing I have ever read.
You sound like you've never worked in-industry (corporate or government). Try getting games or something to that effect to be signed off by your CISO/CIO (chief security officer... if you even know what that is).
I am talking about working on your home PC not at the office idiot, WOW, are you retarded? I have worked in It for 10 years and been building PC's for 15, and I know when someone thinks they have a clue but really don't, that would be you.
LOL, so because you can build a PC, you know about information assurance & security? Great, you can work at Best Buy or Circuit City :)
[QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
leper-messiahs
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
Are u stupid? I alrady said virtually all GPUs, even the low ebd ones come with 512 MB VRAM? I ask again, are u stupid? I never said yuo don't need lots of vram, i said all Video cards come with 512 now, ezcept the low end ones which people playing on high resolutions wouldn't buy anyway.
Liar? everything I said was true, if you know hardware, which you don't.
You realise a Gaming Pc is also a workstation right? Thats the whole point, and the reason it costs more, it is a multi-function device, Thus the extra cost, wow, some peopl shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wow you're really rude, aren't you? No, I'm not stupid... in fact, I'd think twice about casting those stones when you can't even spell correctly.
There wasn't anything wrong with what I stated in my original post, because as you have missed (or maybe reading comprehension is something else you've yet to master, eh?), I qualified it all with "from my experience".
It really is simple:
PC gaming is expensive. It doesn't matter if you can use your PC as a productivity tool, because when we're comparing the cost: performance ratio with a game console (again, we're talking about buying the two for games ONLY).
Can mods work well? Yeah, but by and large, the great ones are in the vast minority of the total ones released. Do yourself a favor and read some benchmarks for all of the video cards out there... despite some having cheaper (read slower RAM), they don't support high resolutions equally.
Besides, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't do your work on the same PC you game on. Why you may ask? Well, because it isn't safe.
Again, never said vram makes no difference , i ask agaiin, can u read? I SAID ALL VIDEO CARDS COME WITH 512 VRAM AS IT IS, and anyone playing on high resolutions would have a good enough video card. UNDERSTAND? Everyone knows vram makes a difference, but it sin;t the only factor weither, a 4870 with 512 MB ram is actually just as fast as the GTX 260 with 900 MB VRAm becasue it uses faster ram. Ignorant muc?
Working on a game Pc is not safe?
BWHAHAHA
BWHAHAHA
WOW, heard it all. It is perfectly safe, been doing it for years. what a stupid comment. Explain why it sin't safe to do work on a gaming PC? That is total BS. gaming and working on the same PC is perfectly fine, and they do not cause issue for one or the other, retarded thing to say. How is working on a word document on gaming Pc not safe, explain that i need a laugh, Perhaps the dumbest, most ignorant post I have seen in ages, and that is saying something.
Do you know what a CISSP is?
Games, among other things introduce potential vulnerabilities.
So does virtually all, software, does that mean it isn't safe to work on Pc at all, even windows has vulnerabilities, even servers. get real, it is perfectly fine to do work on a gaming PC, no one in their right mind buys 2 PC's out of paranoia. The dumbest thing I have ever read.
You sound like you've never worked in-industry (corporate or government). Try getting games or something to that effect to be signed off by your CISO/CIO (chief security officer... if you even know what that is).
I am talking about working on your home PC not at the office idiot, WOW, are you retarded? I have worked in It for 10 years and been building PC's for 15, and I know when someone thinks they have a clue but really don't, that would be you.
Honestly, you'd want to do your work on a seperate machine at home as well (especially when you're dealing with sensitive data).
Sorry, you are a moron, name one vulnerability one game had? Windows on your home PC is vulnerable compared to at work.s eriously, only a complete idiot buys what crap you are trying to sell. most companies would give laptops to anyone who nees to doa lot of work home. I am talking personal work. going by what you say, no one can do any work at home at all because windows has more vulnerabilities then any games.
Wrong, those systems would be "hardened" and communicate VIA encrypted VPNs... do you know what an encrypted VPN is (Link Encryption, End-to-End)???
[QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"][QUOTE="leper-messiahs"][QUOTE="Ernesto_basic"]I have a gaming PC, 360, and Wii. I built my gaming PC last Christmas, spent a little over $1000 (luckily, I didn't have to pay for the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and DVD drive... so don't be fooled into thinking that this rig would have only cost $1k). I played Crysis, tried a few other games, and mostly played C&C 3/KW for the last year.
Do the games typically look better on my PC? Yeah, but marginally. To be honest, I find myself buying 95% of my games for the consoles, because I prefer playing with a controller, recliner, and HDTV. Do I regret spending so much to build this PC? Sure, sometimes, but for the most part? Not really. I will say that if I didn't use it every day for purposes outside of gaming, then it would have been a cost prohibitive mistake/choice.
PC gaming is a rat-race. It's expensive to achieve optimal performance on every game, hardware becomes antiquated immediately, and to be honest, the games aren't for everyone. For instance, I haven't found a game I would rather play on my PC for quite some time, with C&C 3/KW and RA 3 being the exceptions. Sure, there are mods, but to be completely honest with you all, they aren't all that great... in fact, most are simply unplayable. Patches? Yeah, but most games aren't released completely broken in the first place. Higher resolutions? Yeah, but then again, to get them, you're going to need lots of RAM on your video card(s) (two if you're really into all of that).
They're both luxuries, but from in my experience, PC gaming is the one that costs more.
Just my 2 cents :)
leper-messiahs
it is no fair to mention cost, without saying what you get with a PC, a PC does a million things, a console does bascially one thing, apples and oranges. Also, it is not that expensive at all, especially with the retarded cost of console games, and building your own. my last upgrade lasted 2 years, cost less then a 360 (Could max out any game with ease), by the time you factor in the game costs, live, Pc gaming is not much more expensive at all, and you get tonne more. IF CP only palyed games that would eb a valid argument, but it does everything.
Lots of ram on your viseo card? They all come with plenty of Vram, even the low end models, don't know why you even said that.
It is your opinion mods are not that great, many are amazing and make the game vastly better, playing oblivion with and without mods is a different game, guess which one is better? Some mods are of as high quality as the devs themselves, and you only download the ones that work and are good. it is not true most are unplayable either, i am beginning to think you are not really a PC gamer but lying, as a lot of what you said is not true.
Are we talking about work stations or playing games? I don't know, but I was under the impression that we're talking about using a PC as a gaming platform. Since a console doesn't run Office, Visual Studio, or anything outside of a game or movie, I thought we were comparing apples to apples here.
For high resolutions, you need lots of RAM on the actual board (card). You do realize that while a 512 and 256 do the same thing, but perform differently at higher resolutions, right?
LOL, you can rationalize that I'm a liar if you like.
Are u stupid? I alrady said virtually all GPUs, even the low ebd ones come with 512 MB VRAM? I ask again, are u stupid? I never said yuo don't need lots of vram, i said all Video cards come with 512 now, ezcept the low end ones which people playing on high resolutions wouldn't buy anyway.
Liar? everything I said was true, if you know hardware, which you don't.
You realise a Gaming Pc is also a workstation right? Thats the whole point, and the reason it costs more, it is a multi-function device, Thus the extra cost, wow, some peopl shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wow you're really rude, aren't you? No, I'm not stupid... in fact, I'd think twice about casting those stones when you can't even spell correctly.
There wasn't anything wrong with what I stated in my original post, because as you have missed (or maybe reading comprehension is something else you've yet to master, eh?), I qualified it all with "from my experience".
It really is simple:
PC gaming is expensive. It doesn't matter if you can use your PC as a productivity tool, because when we're comparing the cost: performance ratio with a game console (again, we're talking about buying the two for games ONLY).
Can mods work well? Yeah, but by and large, the great ones are in the vast minority of the total ones released. Do yourself a favor and read some benchmarks for all of the video cards out there... despite some having cheaper (read slower RAM), they don't support high resolutions equally.
Besides, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't do your work on the same PC you game on. Why you may ask? Well, because it isn't safe.
Again, never said vram makes no difference , i ask agaiin, can u read? I SAID ALL VIDEO CARDS COME WITH 512 VRAM AS IT IS, and anyone playing on high resolutions would have a good enough video card. UNDERSTAND? Everyone knows vram makes a difference, but it sin;t the only factor weither, a 4870 with 512 MB ram is actually just as fast as the GTX 260 with 900 MB VRAm becasue it uses faster ram. Ignorant muc?
Working on a game Pc is not safe?
BWHAHAHA
BWHAHAHA
WOW, heard it all. It is perfectly safe, been doing it for years. what a stupid comment. Explain why it sin't safe to do work on a gaming PC? That is total BS. gaming and working on the same PC is perfectly fine, and they do not cause issue for one or the other, retarded thing to say. How is working on a word document on gaming Pc not safe, explain that i need a laugh, Perhaps the dumbest, most ignorant post I have seen in ages, and that is saying something.
Do you know what a CISSP is?
Games, among other things introduce potential vulnerabilities.
So does virtually all, software, does that mean it isn't safe to work on Pc at all, even windows has vulnerabilities, even servers. get real, it is perfectly fine to do work on a gaming PC, no one in their right mind buys 2 PC's out of paranoia. The dumbest thing I have ever read.
You sound like you've never worked in-industry (corporate or government). Try getting games or something to that effect to be signed off by your CISO/CIO (chief security officer... if you even know what that is).
I am talking about working on your home PC not at the office idiot, WOW, are you retarded? I have worked in It for 10 years and been building PC's for 15, and I know when someone thinks they have a clue but really don't, that would be you.
LOL, so because you can build a PC, you know about information assurance & security? Great, you can work at Best Buy or Circuit City :)
i work in It idiot, and have worked on Sarbanes Oxley projects, so i know security and It betetr then you.
You do, huh? Well, then you wouldn't be afraid to supply your CISA/CISSP ID then, right?
Might wanna trim down the quote trees, guys.
At any rate, this has gone too far. leper-messiahs, you seriously need to reconsider your posting behavior. I've seen nothing but flames and insults from your part for the better part of this thread, and frankly, such behavior is completely unneeded.
I can understand having a heated debate over a controversial topic, but there is no reason at all to resort to personal attacks if you adress the issue correctly. Please give this some thought.
[QUOTE="SteelAttack"]Might wanna trim down the quote trees, guys.
RK-Mara
Might? This thread has become unreadable.
Yeah, Firefox just died a little when I clicked on this thread.
ANYWAY, my decision comes down to two factors.
Are my friends getting this game? Which version are they getting? Leader-boards and online multiplayer don't mean much if you can't challenge your friends, you know? ;) Mods are also important to me. Games like Oblivion and Team Fortress 2 become entirely different experiences when you take advantage of the mod community.
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