I'm having a hard time finishing GTA 4...

Im nearly at the end (just finished Bernie parts) and I keep finding it harder and harder to do the missions. No I dont mean difficulty wise, I mean they are just BORING. I found myself nodding off while driving 5 min just to get to a mission destination. And when I fail, I dont fee like doing it again. I really want to finish this game..but its bloody hard!! Anyone else feel the same?DarKre

It's pretty much a love it/hate it game based on my experience and other people's views I've seen. Many people like myself had to pretty much keep going through the repetitive missions (Save Three Leaf Clover, easily stands out from the rest.) because it was hyped through the roof.

Just a small thing though: You can take a cab and instantly teleport to your destination.

I just finished it last night.

I enjoyed the game ... I actually liked the driving parts, but you can use a cab to instantly jump almost anywhere, even during a large number of missions.

I recently learned you can even ride in occupied cabs by running up to them and holding "Y". You don't have to flag them if you don't want to.

Yea, I knew about the cabs, im just saying in missions where driving is necessary..ugh I dunno. Im gonna force myself to beat this game.DarKre

I suppose it could get a little tedious if you have to keep driving all over.

Well you had to know it had alot of "go here do this" because it IS a Grand Theft Auto game.

At least you can instantly teleport by taking cabs in this one.

(just finished Bernie parts)DarKre

That sounds wrong on many levels. :P

But yeah, one of the flaws I found within this game was the simple mission structure. A huge percentage of them are just drive from A to B, then huge shootout ensues. Sadly, missions like I'll Take Her, or Three Leaf Clover are painful exceptions instead of the rule.

i didnt finish it and i dont know if i will. i was initially on board with the high score the game got, but once i realized its the same crap repetitive missions over and over. go here kill this drive there drop off that. it was played out by the end of GTA3 and thats how its been in every other GTA since. i love the atmosphere and i love niko but GTA is really no longer for me until it does something more meaningful with the meat of the game.OneWingedAngeI

Yes! My exact feelings..thank you!!

I did eventually beat the game, and the ending was not worth all of that at all :/.

I can't comprehend why people hate GTA4. It's like hating 20 year old scotch, or sunshine, or Jessica Alba. How is that possible? It's a brilliant game. A masterpiece in fact. On the other hand, I'm one of the six people on earth that think the Halo franchise is utterly overhyped, overrated and not even a very good FPS (hell, Prey was better) let alone the best. So people think I'm crazy too. Bottom line: To each his own.;)DarkElf2112

There is no hate for this game. Im not hating on it, I respect the fact that they were able to make such a good looking, intriquit game. But certain qaulities just dont do it for me. I dont hate it, I just dont want to play it.

I can't comprehend why people hate GTA4. It's like hating 20 year old scotch, or sunshine, or Jessica Alba. How is that possible? It's a brilliant game. A masterpiece in fact. On the other hand, I'm one of the six people on earth that think the Halo franchise is utterly overhyped, overrated and not even a very good FPS (hell, Prey was better) let alone the best. So people think I'm crazy too. Bottom line: To each his own.;)DarkElf2112

I agree with you that Halo was overhyped, the third one at least. I have to adamantly disagree about GTA4 being a "masterpiece". It was a badly watered-down San Andreas with highly polished graphics. In fact, the graphics were about the only good quality of this game in comparison to the other GTAs.

[QUOTE="DarkElf2112"]I can't comprehend why people hate GTA4. It's like hating 20 year old scotch, or sunshine, or Jessica Alba. How is that possible? It's a brilliant game. A masterpiece in fact.On the other hand, I'm one of the six people on earth that think the Halo franchise is utterly overhyped, overrated and not even a very good FPS (hell, Prey was better) let alone the best. So people think I'm crazy too. Bottom line: To each his own.;)EnigManic

I agree with you that Halo was overhyped, the third one at least. I have to adamantly disagree about GTA4 being a "masterpiece". It was a badly watered-down San Andreas with highly polished graphics. In fact, the graphics were about the only good quality of this game in comparison to the other GTAs.

Fair enough, gentleman can respectfully disagree. But I think that what you consider watered-down I would call removing unnecessary fluff. Lifting wieghts, eating just for the sake of eating, and jetpacks. Jetpacks? That's not gangsta! I thought GTA SA was terrific, mind you, but it was a bit bloated to say the least. I find GTA4 to be more densely compact and with less wasted resources. That's not to say that I don't wish they kept things like buying real estate (or being able to spend all that money on anything for that matter) and planes, but in my opinion GTA4 is at another level or two above it predecessors.

I can't comprehend why people hate GTA4. It's like hating 20 year old scotch, or sunshine, or Jessica Alba. How is that possible? It's a brilliant game. A masterpiece in fact. On the other hand, I'm one of the six people on earth that think the Halo franchise is utterly overhyped, overrated and not even a very good FPS (hell, Prey was better) let alone the best. So people think I'm crazy too. Bottom line: To each his own.;)DarkElf2112

everything about GTA was masterful, except for the actual main part of the game, which sort of counts for a lot. the city was simply breathtaking. niko is immensely charismatic. the combat mechanics are much improved. there is so much life in the city. yet all we do is go from a to b and shoot a couple people or drop someone off. the only real fun to be had in the game is mostly what you do besideswhat the main point of the game is. thats how i feel anyway.

Yea, I knew about the cabs, im just saying in missions where driving is necessary..ugh I dunno. Im gonna force myself to beat this game.DarKre

...I think that what you consider watered-down I would call removing unnecessary fluff. Lifting wieghts, eating just for the sake of eating, and jetpacks. Jetpacks? That's not gangsta! I thought GTA SA was terrific, mind you, but it was a bit bloated to say the least. I find GTA4 to be more densely compact and with less wasted resources. That's not to say that I don't wish they kept things like buying real estate (or being able to spend all that money on anything for that matter) and planes, but in my opinion GTA4 is at another level or two above it predecessors. DarkElf2112

Unnecessary stuff? You ate and lifted weights to build and maintain your physique. And how can you call SA bloated? For fifty bucks a game, we should get our money's worht, and SA delivered despite its shortcomings. Buying real estate, plenty of side activites, a larger selection of vehicles, more customization options, etc. GTA4 was a stripped down, bare bones GTA with polished graphics, nothing more. And as for any claims to Nico's "charisma"? Please.. He was totally one-dimensional. He had a sense of humor, big deal, but all he really cared about was revenge and making money, he had no soul.

"GTA4 is at another level or two above it predecessors." - That's true if you only care about graphics.

I was seriously addicted to GTA 4 for about three to four days. I even pulled off an all night-er with it (been a long time a games done that for me). However, i'm very much agree with OneWingAngel on this one. I didn't complete it and don't think I ever will. Nico's a great protagonist and I loved the little conversations you have with people as you pick them up to go out places. I just got bored after Alex stopped writing blogs on Nico and the missions started to get annoying instead of fun at the later stages.

Damn I remember a mission where you got to steal a load of cocaine from speedboats in a heavely guarded dock. I had to spend 20 minutes of driving just to have the guy i'm suppose to be backing up, run out into the open and die, making me repeat the 20 minutes driving part again. Five or Six times I had to repeat that mission, I finally quit the game after the speedboat tipped over 3ft from the mission complete way-point.

i didnt finish it and i dont know if i will. i was initially on board with the high score the game got, but once i realized its the same crap repetitive missions over and over. go here kill this drive there drop off that. it was played out by the end of GTA3 and thats how its been in every other GTA since. i love the atmosphere and i love niko but GTA is really no longer for me until it does something more meaningful with the meat of the game.OneWingedAngeI

i totely agree n that the game have nice details but it's very boring

the gta lost it's magic with this serias

they wont be able to bring the gta gonna break down san andreas it's realy the best gta ever an icon if i may say so

[QUOTE="DarkElf2112"]...I think that what you consider watered-down I would call removing unnecessary fluff. Lifting wieghts, eating just for the sake of eating, and jetpacks. Jetpacks? That's not gangsta! I thought GTA SA was terrific, mind you, but it was a bit bloated to say the least. I find GTA4 to be more densely compact and with less wasted resources. That's not to say that I don't wish they kept things like buying real estate (or being able to spend all that money on anything for that matter) and planes, but in my opinion GTA4 is at another level or two above it predecessors. EnigManic

Unnecessary stuff? You ate and lifted weights to build and maintain your physique. And how can you call SA bloated? For fifty bucks a game, we should get our money's worht, and SA delivered despite its shortcomings. Buying real estate, plenty of side activites, a larger selection of vehicles, more customization options, etc. GTA4 was a stripped down, bare bones GTA with polished graphics, nothing more. And as for any claims to Nico's "charisma"? Please.. He was totally one-dimensional. He had a sense of humor, big deal, but all he really cared about was revenge and making money, he had no soul.

"GTA4 is at another level or two above it predecessors." - That's true if you only care about graphics.

It's at about that point, too, that people realise how repetitive the missions are (disregarding the fact that the story falls apart here too). Sure, previous GTAs followed that cutscene-drive-kill formula, but they at least had A) numerous ways for the player to go about the mission (that's kind of the point of a sandbox game) and B) interesting and wacky missions to keep the missions fresh. Burning fields of weed, anyone? IV, however, offers extremely scripted missions that can be finished one way; Rockstar's way. This makes them extremely repetitive because they're all essentially the same. Yes, there are exceptions, but there are far fewer than before. The last quarter of the game is just a blur of killing.

The scripted chases really got to me. You can shoot a vehicle (or a person on a bike) until you run out of ammo, but you cannot kill them until they reach X point on the map. Isn't that the antithesis of what a sandbox should be?

And you are right about it being stripped down; when you remove the fun and crazy stuff that people loved about GTA (the toys in the sandbox), all you're left with is an empty city that missions take place in. *shamelessly plugs his review that explains his feelings in a more appropriate manner*

EDIT: Sorry double post!

Yeah, the game's mission design was incredibly dull...

Drive here...do a drug deal...something happens...

get rid of your wanted level..

rinse and repeat= GTA 4

I mean, I liked GTA 4, but its no where near the hype

Yeah, there are a lot of missions where you have to drive a long way to your objective, which either ends with you killing someone or chasing someone down. Fail either of those and you get to complete the driving segment all over again...which takes longer and longer every time you do it. Quick replay option is nice, but it should have included the option to skip to your goal (or nearer to it).DJ_Lae

this sums it up for me too...the game's been great so far, and the only other GTA game i've spent any significant time with was vice city, so the formula is still fresh to me...i just hate replying the driving segments all over again whenever i have to redo a mission...