Is music not as memorable in today's game as it was 10-20 years ago?

I've been on youtube listening to old classics and thought "I don't think in 10-20 years time i'll be youtubing any music in today's games".

I remember as much music in older games as the actual gameplay. Games like Mk had great stage music (e.g The famous 'Subway tune') and other games became instantly recognisable due to a theme song (e.g Mario games, or maybe even Dragon Quest).

The music in the ps1 era of Final Fantasy games was certainly my favourite, and I can easily listen to those soundtracks today. No games these days has truly memorable music. At least none i can think of.

Maybe in general but not entirely. I'm sure anyone that has played them can recognize a Portal, Super Meat Boy, or Shogun 2 song for example.

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I think people remember their repetetive tune. They sounded bad and they didn't even sound like real instruments. Playing the old MG and MG2 solid snake games for the msx. Ahhhh! The music!

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ionusX

Sorry for asking for people's opinion!

Memorable, perhapas. Better? No way. Music in gaming is getting much better. I can't actually sit and listen to the Legend of zelda theme, or mario bros. It just doesn't drive any emotion. Now you talk to me about Lair, or Heavy rain... even Halo and that's a different story.

Memorable, perhapas. Better? No way. Music in gaming is getting much better. I can't actually sit and listen to the Legend of zelda theme, or mario bros. It just doesn't drive any emotion. Now you talk to me about Lair, or Heavy rain... even Halo and that's a different story.

PalmPixi

indeed and there are plenty of memorable tracks still about.. like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

[QUOTE="PalmPixi"]

Memorable, perhapas. Better? No way. Music in gaming is getting much better. I can't actually sit and listen to the Legend of zelda theme, or mario bros. It just doesn't drive any emotion. Now you talk to me about Lair, or Heavy rain... even Halo and that's a different story.

ionusX

indeed and there are plenty of memorable tracks still about.. like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

Why do people love that song? I'd be embarrased listening to that.

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[QUOTE="PalmPixi"]

Memorable, perhapas. Better? No way. Music in gaming is getting much better. I can't actually sit and listen to the Legend of zelda theme, or mario bros. It just doesn't drive any emotion. Now you talk to me about Lair, or Heavy rain... even Halo and that's a different story.

irishdude199210

indeed and there are plenty of memorable tracks still about.. like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

Why do people love that song? I'd be embarrased listening to that.

Today's games frequently get caught up in the same orchestral nonsense that movies have been seeped in for years.Fragasnap

That is EXACTLY what I'm thinking. I can't remember 'epic' orchestral songs- they're pretty similar unless you really like that music and could spot the differences then. I prefer melodies. Some are annoying, but I love them for how easy they are to remember. I can remember quite a few Dragon quest random encounter tunes.

Games today might not have the simple music that we can all hum while working, but there's still fantastic scores going around.

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

indeed and there are plenty of memorable tracks still about.. like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

PalmPixi

Why do people love that song? I'd be embarrased listening to that.

indeed if you DONT enjoy still alive your incapable of being satisfied and what you do enjoy is meerly a case of "good enough" and not truly "amazing".. and this thread now ahs an even more prominent reason to be pointless..

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

indeed and there are plenty of memorable tracks still about.. like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

PalmPixi

Why do people love that song? I'd be embarrased listening to that.

Listen to some dance song, I'm sure you'll find thatit's probablynot veryoriginal. That awful, awful robot-sound voice thing. What the hell is that!?

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[QUOTE="irishdude199210"]

Why do people love that song? I'd be embarrased listening to that.

irishdude199210

Listen to some dance song, I'm sure you'll find thatit's probablynot veryoriginal. That awful, awful robot-sound voice thing. What the hell is that!?

Well not that I don't have a lot of favourites from many years ago but the music from games today is absolutely fantastic and I find them just as memorable as any of my cIassic favourites. Games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Halo, Blazblue, etc. have some amazing soundtracks.Archangel3371

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]Well not that I don't have a lot of favourites from many years ago but the music from games today is absolutely fantastic and I find them just as memorable as any of my cIassic favourites. Games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Halo, Blazblue, etc. have some amazing soundtracks.PalmPixi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw

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[QUOTE="PalmPixi"]It's perhaps the best video game song of the decade... perhaps of all time. Amazing, and original.

PalmPixi

Listen to some dance song, I'm sure you'll find thatit's probablynot veryoriginal. That awful, awful robot-sound voice thing. What the hell is that!?

Oh so you listen to dance, well then you're obviously goingto like the song cause it sounds like a dance song! And what the hell is this supposed to mean: 'Though your probablly not the person that values lyrics and such' !? Who are you to say i don't value lyrics, just because i don't like that one particular song. And also, i find it ironic you say i don't value lyrics when YOU like dance music-music that virtually has no lyrics. Plus, I listen to heavy metal and rock- genres of music where lyrics are EXTREMELY important!

This is my all-time favourite soundtrack for a fighting game. Blazblue Bang ShishigamiArchangel3371

Good song!

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[QUOTE="irishdude199210"]

Listen to some dance song, I'm sure you'll find thatit's probablynot veryoriginal. That awful, awful robot-sound voice thing. What the hell is that!?

irishdude199210

Oh so you listen to dance, well then you're obviously goingto like the song cause it sounds like a dance song! And what the hell is this supposed to mean: 'Though your probablly not the person that values lyrics and such' !? Who are you to say i don't value lyrics, just because i don't like that one particular song. And also, i find it ironic you say i don't value lyrics when YOU like dance music-music that virtually has no lyrics. Plus, I listen to heavy metal and rock- genres of music where lyrics are EXTREMELY important!

"Oh looky me I listen to hardcore stuff like metal and rock, I'm so hardcore". Please. I'm guessing you just listen to guitar and drums, and don't know half about what the song actually means.

It's not the fact that you don't like the Portal song, is the fact that you bash it, as if your opinion was a FACT. When it's not. Look how many likes vs. dislikes there is on the youtube video. Gamers who understand the game, actually like the song. It doesn't need to be "hardcore" in order to be good. If it fits with the game, then it's perfect. The song is perfect.

I wouldn't say so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw dkdk999

Mass effect seems very popular haha

yeah this sounds ok, but i would really have to judge it on context in the game. It sounds like someone is preparing for war in this song, or possibly that a war/confilct is over haha More inclined to go with the former

[QUOTE="dkdk999"]I wouldn't say so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw irishdude199210

Mass effect seems very popular haha

yeah this sounds ok, but i would really have to judge it on context in the game. It sounds like someone is preparing for war in this song, or possibly that a war/confilct is over haha More inclined to go with the former

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[QUOTE="PalmPixi"]I do listen to dance. It sounds nothing like it. Though your probablly not the person that values lyrics and such.

PalmPixi

Oh so you listen to dance, well then you're obviously goingto like the song cause it sounds like a dance song! And what the hell is this supposed to mean: 'Though your probablly not the person that values lyrics and such' !? Who are you to say i don't value lyrics, just because i don't like that one particular song. And also, i find it ironic you say i don't value lyrics when YOU like dance music-music that virtually has no lyrics. Plus, I listen to heavy metal and rock- genres of music where lyrics are EXTREMELY important!

"Oh looky me I listen to hardcore stuff like metal and rock, I'm so hardcore". Please. I'm guessing you just listen to guitar and drums, and don't know half about what the song actually means.

It's not the fact that you don't like the Portal song, is the fact that you bash it, as if your opinion was a FACT. When it's not. Look how many likes vs. dislikes there is on the youtube video. Gamers who understand the game, actually like the song. It doesn't need to be "hardcore" in order to be good. If it fits with the game, then it's perfect. The song is perfect.

The people who look up that song on youtube are more than likely going to already like the song, hence looking it up on youtube.

'Please. I'm guessing you just listen to guitar and drums, and don't know half about what the song actually means.'- why are you so prejudice? You're constantly assuming things about me that you obviously have no idea of. In fact, my favourite heavy metal song is actually a very soft, melodic song about a man contempleting suicide, and then commiting it. Yes, that sounds like a typical heavy metal song, but i was very depressed at one point and that song helped me big time. It made me happy, something you'll probably not understand. I never said i was 'hardcore' either, please forgive me for actually liking music that has a bit of meaning. I didn't so much 'bash' the portal song, i just said i didn't like it. You talk about it like it's the best song of all time.

Ihave never played Portal,perhaps in game context the song really fits and is perfect. But i would imagine it is mainly only people who have actually played the game thats likes the song.Forget this notion of 'hardcore' that you keep mentioning, cause I also like other music types, just not as much as rock and metal. Johnny Cash, some Eminem songs etc. I'd easily listen to, if they told a good enough story.

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[QUOTE="dkdk999"]I wouldn't say so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw PalmPixi

Mass effect seems very popular haha

yeah this sounds ok, but i would really have to judge it on context in the game. It sounds like someone is preparing for war in this song, or possibly that a war/confilct is over haha More inclined to go with the former

What the hell are you talking about!?I clearly siad "i would really have to judge it on context in the game"- that means i would judge how it fits into the game! Could you not understand that simple sentence?

Nobuo. :(

Come back and grace the Final Fantasy franchise once again!

Nobuo. :(

Come back and grace the Final Fantasy franchise once again!

no_more_fayth

Exactly! That guy made some astounding songs

It's more memorable largely out of its simplicity. a 30-75 second music loop that's lacking in depth is easier to remember than an orchestrated piece that's several minutes long. This is particularly true if you were one to replay old games, because you'd hear the short music loops dozens of times.

Whether or not it's better is a completely different story. Many NES tunes are among my favourites in gaming, but eventually they become stale and I have to wait a while to be able to enjoy them again.On the other hand, there are few modern game soundtracks that I remember, but the few that I do remember remain excellent for much longer.

Baba Yetu
Gusty Garden Galaxy
Still Alive (the only part I liked about that game) all disagree with you

Baba Yetu
Gusty Garden Galaxy
Still Alive (the only part I liked about that game) all disagree with you

Maroxad

Bowser's Inside Story final boss theme alsodisagree with you

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[QUOTE="irishdude199210"]

Oh so you listen to dance, well then you're obviously goingto like the song cause it sounds like a dance song! And what the hell is this supposed to mean: 'Though your probablly not the person that values lyrics and such' !? Who are you to say i don't value lyrics, just because i don't like that one particular song. And also, i find it ironic you say i don't value lyrics when YOU like dance music-music that virtually has no lyrics. Plus, I listen to heavy metal and rock- genres of music where lyrics are EXTREMELY important!

irishdude199210

"Oh looky me I listen to hardcore stuff like metal and rock, I'm so hardcore". Please. I'm guessing you just listen to guitar and drums, and don't know half about what the song actually means.

It's not the fact that you don't like the Portal song, is the fact that you bash it, as if your opinion was a FACT. When it's not. Look how many likes vs. dislikes there is on the youtube video. Gamers who understand the game, actually like the song. It doesn't need to be "hardcore" in order to be good. If it fits with the game, then it's perfect. The song is perfect.

The people who look up that song on youtube are more than likely going to already like the song, hence looking it up on youtube.

'Please. I'm guessing you just listen to guitar and drums, and don't know half about what the song actually means.'- why are you so prejudice? You're constantly assuming things about me that you obviously have no idea of. In fact, my favourite heavy metal song is actually a very soft, melodic song about a man contempleting suicide, and then commiting it. Yes, that sounds like a typical heavy metal song, but i was very depressed at one point and that song helped me big time. It made me happy, something you'll probably not understand. I never said i was 'hardcore' either, please forgive me for actually liking music that has a bit of meaning. I didn't so much 'bash' the portal song, i just said i didn't like it. You talk about it like it's the best song of all time.

Ihave never played Portal,perhaps in game context the song really fits and is perfect. But i would imagine it is mainly only people who have actually played the game thats likes the song.Forget this notion of 'hardcore' that you keep mentioning, cause I also like other music types, just not as much as rock and metal. Johnny Cash, some Eminem songs etc. I'd easily listen to, if they told a good enough story.

Also you didn't say "I don't like the song" you said: Why do people love that song? I'd be embarrased listening to that.

Assuming that people should be emberrased to like the song and shouldn't love it.

If you haven't play portal, then why run your mouth? You'd had to play the game in order to understand the song, hence why "people love it".

I think the reason why music isn't as memorable today it's because it's all orchestrated and cinematic like films. It's not worse or bad music, it just kind of sounds the same.EXEraserVS

[QUOTE="EXEraserVS"]I think the reason why music isn't as memorable today it's because it's all orchestrated and cinematic like films. It's not worse or bad music, it just kind of sounds the same.PalmPixi

There are some great soundtracks for games these days. While none are as high quality as, say, Ocarina of Time (Although Brawl definitley has the best soundtrack this gen) I'd say there is still good music. Not all the itme, but when it happens, it's really good.

I've been on youtube listening to old classics and thought "I don't think in 10-20 years time i'll be youtubing any music in today's games".

I remember as much music in older games as the actual gameplay. Games like Mk had great stage music (e.g The famous 'Subway tune') and other games became instantly recognisable due to a theme song (e.g Mario games, or maybe even Dragon Quest).

The music in the ps1 era of Final Fantasy games was certainly my favourite, and I can easily listen to those soundtracks today. No games these days has truly memorable music. At least none i can think of.

irishdude199210

A good melody is a good melody. Back in the day, you NEEDED that good melody, otherwise your game would sound more like an alarm/phone than music. Nowadays, every tool in the world is out there to make game music, but with that I think comes the, "okay, this is good enough feeling." I haven't heard an inspired peice of game music in quite some time. MGS is probably the last, imo.

Machinarium

Quite memorable. There's some memorable music in today's games.

Not at all, there is still great music in games these days.

are you kidding??? we have the best music ever in games right now. halo and mass effect are easily two of the best soundtracks ever. fallout, GTA, Gears, etc...mems_1224

oh yah defently without a doubt, i think the last game with a legitimatly good ost i heard was FF13 and lunar star(but thats a remake of a 20 year old game with the same ost, so that doesnt count)

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[QUOTE="PalmPixi"]I like every type of music genre, so I don't get your point. Also you probablly don't know how to distinguish dance from pop... which is what that song is. Pop.

"Oh looky me I listen to hardcore stuff like metal and rock, I'm so hardcore". Please. I'm guessing you just listen to guitar and drums, and don't know half about what the song actually means.

It's not the fact that you don't like the Portal song, is the fact that you bash it, as if your opinion was a FACT. When it's not. Look how many likes vs. dislikes there is on the youtube video. Gamers who understand the game, actually like the song. It doesn't need to be "hardcore" in order to be good. If it fits with the game, then it's perfect. The song is perfect.

PalmPixi

The people who look up that song on youtube are more than likely going to already like the song, hence looking it up on youtube.

'Please. I'm guessing you just listen to guitar and drums, and don't know half about what the song actually means.'- why are you so prejudice? You're constantly assuming things about me that you obviously have no idea of. In fact, my favourite heavy metal song is actually a very soft, melodic song about a man contempleting suicide, and then commiting it. Yes, that sounds like a typical heavy metal song, but i was very depressed at one point and that song helped me big time. It made me happy, something you'll probably not understand. I never said i was 'hardcore' either, please forgive me for actually liking music that has a bit of meaning. I didn't so much 'bash' the portal song, i just said i didn't like it. You talk about it like it's the best song of all time.

Ihave never played Portal,perhaps in game context the song really fits and is perfect. But i would imagine it is mainly only people who have actually played the game thats likes the song.Forget this notion of 'hardcore' that you keep mentioning, cause I also like other music types, just not as much as rock and metal. Johnny Cash, some Eminem songs etc. I'd easily listen to, if they told a good enough story.

Also you didn't say "I don't like the song" you said: Why do people love that song? I'd be embarrased listening to that.

Assuming that people should be emberrased to like the song and shouldn't love it.

If you haven't play portal, then why run your mouth? You'd had to play the game in order to understand the song, hence why "people love it".

First off, don't patronise me. Second, don't say i'm being prejudice just because i said that about you.

Third, being embarrased about something generally means you dont like it e.g If i messed up in a public speech, then i would be embarrased. I then would probably not like doing public speeches anymore.

Fourth, this line: 'Assuming that people should be emberrased to like the song and shouldn't love it' is just bs. i said I would be embarrased, I didnt say everyone should be embarrased because they like it.

You're last sentence, ok yeah i agree. I've kinda been a bit hypocritical.

End of this discussion please.

Crysis 2 - Main Menu Theme

Super Meat Boy - The Battle Of Lil' Slugger

Mafia II - Main Theme

The Last Remnant - Gates Of Hell

The Witcher - Twilight

The Witcher - Mighty (An extra Witcher song to celebrate the launch of The Witcher 2 XD )

Bulletstorm - Theme

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I completely disagree TC