is Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (GC) the best sonic ever in 3d?

is Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (GC) the best sonic ever in 3d?

Yep, it's the reason I got a Gamecube.

My Dreamcast, or the copy of SA2 was acting up :(

It's the best one IMO, it was my first GC game.

No. Absolutely not. Two thirds of the game is just pure trash. The Sonic/Shadow levels are good for the most part, but the non sonic levels are so bad it's not even funny. The speed levels dont even make up one third of the game since those levels are way shorter than the other levels. Both the original Sonic Adventure and Sonic Heroes are much more consistantly good games. So is Sonic and the Secret Rings for that matter. You cant even just do the speed levels unlike sonic adventure either. At least in sa1 you could do sonics story and then the other stories if you wanted to. In sa2 you have to go through the terrible levels to get to the good ones. It really is a shame because if the whole game was made up of the sonic/shadow levels it would have been amazing. 30 speed levels in a row instead of 10 of each gameplay type would have made this one of the best 3d platformers ever.

Almost.

If it was just speed missions, it would be great. The Tails/Robotnik missions are horribly boring. The Knuckles/Rogue missions are incredibly frustrating and are even more boring than the Tails missions.

yes without a doubt

No Sonic Adventure DX is a lot better. The Sonic/Tales levels were more fun to play and the finding the emerald levels weren't so big and annoying. The Adventure Field could get annoying but I found the overall game to be more fun. People complain about Big the Cat ruining it and while he is by no means fun his stages are incredibly short since the Frog was almost always right there in front of me. TheColbert

No way. The original Sonic Adventure is much better. Adventure 2 was a huge disappointment. Rocky32189

wut he sed.

SA2 Chao garden > SA Chao garden.

SA2 wins.

original was better

sonic was sonic

tails was similar to sonic but you could take huge shortcuts by flying and you had to race sonic

knuckles was fun

amy was annoying and SLOW

E-102 was a fun little offshoot, his story takes around 1 hour to beat

big was just ugh i've never gotten SS by myself because of that damn cat

It always boggles my mind how everyone complains about the non-sonic levels in Sonic Ad. 2 yet everyone excepted it and even liked it in Sonic Ad. 1.

Yes, part 1 is better but I dont know how you can like Knuckles Gem hunting and E-102s shooting levels here and then hate them in part 2. I dont even wanna mention the fishing. I liked both games but as far as the best 3D Sonic goes....I have to pick Secret Rings. Its fast, no cheap deaths and only Sonic.

It always boggles my mind how everyone complains about the non-sonic levels in Sonic Ad. 2 yet everyone excepted it and even liked it in Sonic Ad. 1.

Yes, part 1 is better but I dont know how you can like Knuckles Gem hunting and E-102s shooting levels here and then hate them in part 2. I dont even wanna mention the fishing. I liked both games but as far as the best 3D Sonic goes....I have to pick Secret Rings. Its fast, no cheap deaths and only Sonic.

wildcat2000

It always boggles my mind how everyone complains about the non-sonic levels in Sonic Ad. 2 yet everyone excepted it and even liked it in Sonic Ad. 1.

Yes, part 1 is better but I dont know how you can like Knuckles Gem hunting and E-102s shooting levels here and then hate them in part 2. I dont even wanna mention the fishing. I liked both games but as far as the best 3D Sonic goes....I have to pick Secret Rings. Its fast, no cheap deaths and only Sonic.

wildcat2000

I agree completely. SA2B is the game I've probably spent the most time playing with in my life, around 200+ hours in total.

Meh, I think i'd have to go for Sonic Adventure 1. The non-Sonic parts were pretty weak in Adventure 2.

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It always boggles my mind how everyone complains about the non-sonic levels in Sonic Ad. 2 yet everyone excepted it and even liked it in Sonic Ad. 1.

Yes, part 1 is better but I dont know how you can like Knuckles Gem hunting and E-102s shooting levels here and then hate them in part 2. I dont even wanna mention the fishing. I liked both games but as far as the best 3D Sonic goes....I have to pick Secret Rings. Its fast, no cheap deaths and only Sonic.

burgeg

You still had to complete everyones storyline to unlock Super Sonic and get the true ending. The Non-Sonic levels in part 2 may have been longer but you still did the same thing (with the exception of Amy and Big since they werent playable).

As much as I love Sonic, I must admit I hated Tails' gameplay in part 1. All you ever did was race Sonic to the goal and if you messed up, pretty much just once by missing a hoop or something, youd have no chance and have to restart. That and Ive always hated beat the clock style gameplay.

Plus it was kinda strange that Sonic would purposely try to beat Tails and keep him from saving the world.

dont get me started on Knuckles missions and what ever that bat thing was

those were just terrible

would have been better with just shadow/sonic levels

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[QUOTE="wildcat2000"]

It always boggles my mind how everyone complains about the non-sonic levels in Sonic Ad. 2 yet everyone excepted it and even liked it in Sonic Ad. 1.

Yes, part 1 is better but I dont know how you can like Knuckles Gem hunting and E-102s shooting levels here and then hate them in part 2. I dont even wanna mention the fishing. I liked both games but as far as the best 3D Sonic goes....I have to pick Secret Rings. Its fast, no cheap deaths and only Sonic.

wildcat2000

You still had to complete everyones storyline to unlock Super Sonic and get the true ending. The Non-Sonic levels in part 2 may have been longer but you still did the same thing (with the exception of Amy and Big since they werent playable).

As much as I love Sonic, I must admit I hated Tails' gameplay in part 1. All you ever did was race Sonic to the goal and if you messed up, pretty much just once by missing a hoop or something, youd have no chance and have to restart. That and Ive always hated beat the clock style gameplay.

Plus it was kinda strange that Sonic would purposely try to beat Tails and keep him from saving the world.

But then again I'll take your word for it if the tails levels were that frustrating for you as well as other non sonic stories that weren't knuckless and shooting levels. I personally didn't have much of an issue with most of the non sonic levels in sa1. It was just big the cat that was frustrating for me. Yes I even enjoyed Amys story. Didn't really like knuckles or the robot stories but they weren't frustrating so they didn't bother me that much. Loved sonics story, loved tails story, enjoyed amys story somewhat, knuckles story was tolerable, robot whose name I cant remember was tolerable and big the cats story was as awful as the knuckles levels in sa2. The only good thing about it is that it's over quickly, unlike the non sonic levels in sa2.

IDK, its in between that and the original on dreamcast/gamecube for me.

But I guess Id say yea, simply cuz of how much better the Chao garden was in the gamecube version, plus it had epic multiplayer. (me and my friend when we were younger would just play treasuer hunt and just basically have fights to the death :P)

Yes its fantastic, great music,, great gameplay, great platforming, I even liked the story

Yes its fantastic, great music,, great gameplay, great platforming, I even liked the story

KzJoe

I agree. I was in love with that game. Had at least a hundred hours put in, probably a lot more. And it had the best Chaos Garden ever.

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[QUOTE="burgeg"]Because in SA1 they weren't that bad with the exception of big the cat. In SA2 they were absolutely awful. It's as simple as that. Plus I think the fact in SA1 you can play through just the sonic story without doing the other stories is a big reason it wasn't as bad as sa2. SA2 forced you to play the crappy levels to get to the good ones. SA1 didn't do that. And yes the knuckles and shooting levels are way better in sa1. They aren't as big and dont last as long. They're not really any good but they're not complete torture to play and aren't frustrating. I'm not defending the non sonic levels in sa1 btw. It would have been a much better game if it was all sonic levels, but there's no denying compared to the non sonic levels in sa2 they're a blessing with the exception of big the cats story.

burgeg

You still had to complete everyones storyline to unlock Super Sonic and get the true ending. The Non-Sonic levels in part 2 may have been longer but you still did the same thing (with the exception of Amy and Big since they werent playable).

As much as I love Sonic, I must admit I hated Tails' gameplay in part 1. All you ever did was race Sonic to the goal and if you messed up, pretty much just once by missing a hoop or something, youd have no chance and have to restart. That and Ive always hated beat the clock style gameplay.

Plus it was kinda strange that Sonic would purposely try to beat Tails and keep him from saving the world.

But then again I'll take your word for it if the tails levels were that frustrating for you as well as other non sonic stories that weren't knuckless and shooting levels. I personally didn't have much of an issue with most of the non sonic levels in sa1. It was just big the cat that was frustrating for me. Yes I even enjoyed Amys story. Didn't really like knuckles or the robot stories but they weren't frustrating so they didn't bother me that much. Loved sonics story, loved tails story, enjoyed amys story somewhat, knuckles story was tolerable, robot whose name I cant remember was tolerable and big the cats story was as awful as the knuckles levels in sa2. The only good thing about it is that it's over quickly, unlike the non sonic levels in sa2.

Getting all the chaos emeralds in Sonic Heroes was easy...as long as you used Team Rose that is. Thier special zones are quick, hardly have any enemies and almost border on being too easy. Overall thier story mode was the easiest also. Using any other team to get the emeralds wouldbeway too hard. Seriously, if you still have the game or want too, youll have no problem getting them with Team Rose. Thats how I did it.

I understand what you mean about the non sonic levels in SA2 being worse, but they didnt bother me as much as they did for most other poeple. Except for a few that were pretty much unfair, like Tails space level (forgot the zone name). Way too many enemies and traps like doors youd accident shoot and be sucked into.

Like I said way back in my original reply, Sonic Ad. 1 is better than part 2. No argument from me there. I was just mentioning how people likedthe non-sonic levels at first and then started complaining. Sonic Adventure is one of my favorite Sonic games. Aside from Tails' beat-sonic storymode and the boring fishing its a great game. Plus like you said even Amy's story was ok and kinda fun at times.

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

[QUOTE="wildcat2000"]

You still had to complete everyones storyline to unlock Super Sonic and get the true ending. The Non-Sonic levels in part 2 may have been longer but you still did the same thing (with the exception of Amy and Big since they werent playable).

As much as I love Sonic, I must admit I hated Tails' gameplay in part 1. All you ever did was race Sonic to the goal and if you messed up, pretty much just once by missing a hoop or something, youd have no chance and have to restart. That and Ive always hated beat the clock style gameplay.

Plus it was kinda strange that Sonic would purposely try to beat Tails and keep him from saving the world.

wildcat2000

But then again I'll take your word for it if the tails levels were that frustrating for you as well as other non sonic stories that weren't knuckless and shooting levels. I personally didn't have much of an issue with most of the non sonic levels in sa1. It was just big the cat that was frustrating for me. Yes I even enjoyed Amys story. Didn't really like knuckles or the robot stories but they weren't frustrating so they didn't bother me that much. Loved sonics story, loved tails story, enjoyed amys story somewhat, knuckles story was tolerable, robot whose name I cant remember was tolerable and big the cats story was as awful as the knuckles levels in sa2. The only good thing about it is that it's over quickly, unlike the non sonic levels in sa2.

Getting all the chaos emeralds in Sonic Heroes was easy...as long as you used Team Rose that is. Thier special zones are quick, hardly have any enemies and almost border on being too easy. Overall thier story mode was the easiest also. Using any other team to get the emeralds wouldbeway too hard. Seriously, if you still have the game or want too, youll have no problem getting them with Team Rose. Thats how I did it.

I understand what you mean about the non sonic levels in SA2 being worse, but they didnt bother me as much as they did for most other poeple. Except for a few that were pretty much unfair, like Tails space level (forgot the zone name). Way too many enemies and traps like doors youd accident shoot and be sucked into.

Like I said way back in my original reply, Sonic Ad. 1 is better than part 2. No argument from me there. I was just mentioning how people likedthe non-sonic levels at first and then started complaining. Sonic Adventure is one of my favorite Sonic games. Aside from Tails' beat-sonic storymode and the boring fishing its a great game. Plus like you said even Amy's story was ok and kinda fun at times.

It was...until the new 'Sonic Unleashed' came out (strictly 360 version)

It was a great game and I spent over 50 hours playing it on my gamecube. However, I'd have to say that the original Sonic Adventure (for Dreamcast) was the best 3d Sonic. I liked its levels better and I enjoyed walking around between stages in a central hub.