Is the NES really a good console? Complicated theory inside.

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#1 Thenumber48
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I mean I owned one but the lack of good game IMO when I played it back in the day compared to, like, everthing else, was pretty subpar. I look back on it now and now people are starting to realize what I did about the NES Library. THe most popular games in most cases were never actually good with some exceptions. Take Crystalis, peope that played it or went back and found it has a hidden gem recently, (I played it during its day) will tell you its better than other overhead games at the time(Zelda etc.) Yes this is true, there were games around Zeldas time that were better than Zelda that were not a dug deep as Crystalis, but the thing is those games came in and marketed themselves over everything else. Not many games or companies did well on the NES because of stuff like this or did not get the credit they deserved. Metroid and Zelda were never good games in the first place, Neither where the first 2 Super Mario bros, and I am talking both version of SMB2. They never were, they were thrown in your face and blocked any equal level competition. I look at the NES as the system that just made companies suffer in my opinion. The SNES was really the only system from nintendo with a similar formula (and the Gamecube to certain extens. The N64, and Wii, Gameboy, and Gameboy Color all did exactly what the NES did. The NES also went on into legaly debatable practices that just annoyed the hell out of me back in the day. I played more SMS, 2600, and 7800, and PC back in those days, messing around with Ultima and stuff. I think of the NES as the evil that had to pass for the Peace to come through. It's not that I think the overall library was bad, but the library we were presented with at the time, ad blocking of success unless you did something or paid nintendo. Making companies use illegal means or loop holes in the tyrants rule to get games out on other systems or even more games on the platform itself. it was like a dictator (NES) that killed many people after a kingdom fell (2600 and co.) and then after it was destroyed a democracy was created (Every gen after) afterwards. Might be a lot of deep thinking into it, I don;t hate Nintendo, I just hate the NES only. Oh and the Wii but the NES is the point here.
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I mean I owned one but the lack of good game IMO when I played it back in the day compared to, like, everthing elseThenumber48


sorry, but I stopped reading after that part.

are you serious? or is this Shockwave-DASH's second account?

I respect your opinion, but I have to say, I honestly don't understand how anyone can claim the NES had a "lack of good games".

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#3 bowserjr123
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I was expecting a link to some external source...complicated theory my ***. Stopped reading after you said "lack of good games."

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#4 Thenumber48
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[QUOTE="Thenumber48"]I mean I owned one but the lack of good game IMO when I played it back in the day compared to, like, everthing elseTheKungFool



sorry, but I stopped reading after that part.

are you serious? or is this Shockwave-DASH's second account?

I respect your opinion, but I have to say, I honestly don't understand how anyone can claim the NES had a "lack of good games".

You call me an alt and say you respect my opinion? I am sorry but yu have to keep reading because then you will get the context for why I said that.
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#5 Thenumber48
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I was expecting a link to some external source...complicated theory my ***. Stopped reading after you said "lack of good games."

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Because you did not read, you don't know why- why do I even bother this place gets on my nerves.
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#6 bowserjr123
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[QUOTE="bowserjr123"]

I was expecting a link to some external source...complicated theory my ***. Stopped reading after you said "lack of good games."

Thenumber48

Because you did not read, you don't know why- why do I even bother this place gets on my nerves.

There's no point in reading, you lost all credibility after that statement.

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#7 Thenumber48
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[QUOTE="Thenumber48"][QUOTE="bowserjr123"]

I was expecting a link to some external source...complicated theory my ***. Stopped reading after you said "lack of good games."

bowserjr123

Because you did not read, you don't know why- why do I even bother this place gets on my nerves.

There's no point in reading, you lost all credibility after that statement.

If you don't know what area that statment came from then jumping to conclusions makes you look like an idiot. Not that it matters, there are 7 thread on the front page were I should have known better to post personal thought. Don't know what I was thinking.
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#8 TheKungFool
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[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="Thenumber48"]I mean I owned one but the lack of good game IMO when I played it back in the day compared to, like, everthing elseThenumber48



sorry, but I stopped reading after that part.

are you serious? or is this Shockwave-DASH's second account?

I respect your opinion, but I have to say, I honestly don't understand how anyone can claim the NES had a "lack of good games".

You call me an alt and say you respect my opinion? I am sorry but yu have to keep reading because then you will get the context for why I said that.



honestly, I did read the whole thing (wish I had those 2 minutes of my life back actually)

I should have said, "I stopped taking your seriously after that" instead of "stopped reading". My bad.

I mean, I could go detail for detail with all the things in that post that I disagree with, but that would be a waste of my time, so I'll just say, I read your entire post, and couldn't disagree more.

and that wasn't a "complicated thoery", just a rather misguided one in my opinion.

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#9 Shockwave-DASH
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Didn't read lol.
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questioning whether or not the nes is a good console is like....... i dont even know, thats how bad it is.
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#11 bowserjr123
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[QUOTE="bowserjr123"]

[QUOTE="Thenumber48"] Because you did not read, you don't know why- why do I even bother this place gets on my nerves. Thenumber48

There's no point in reading, you lost all credibility after that statement.

If you don't know what area that statment came from then jumping to conclusions makes you look like an idiot. Not that it matters, there are 7 thread on the front page were I should have known better to post personal thought. Don't know what I was thinking.

Makes me look like an idiot...:lol: You're making yourself look like a fool saying the NES had no good games...here, I'll give you a list:

-Super Mario Bros 1-3

-Castlevania 1-3

-Mega Man 1-6

-Metroid

-Contra

-Punch Out

-Zelda 1/2

-Final Fantasy

-Dragon Warrior

-Battletoads

-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

-Kid Icarus

I think I've made my point. I think Kungfool has a similar stance too...I won't waste two minutes of my life and read your incredible theory.

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#12 Thenumber48
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[QUOTE="Thenumber48"][QUOTE="bowserjr123"]

There's no point in reading, you lost all credibility after that statement.

bowserjr123

If you don't know what area that statment came from then jumping to conclusions makes you look like an idiot. Not that it matters, there are 7 thread on the front page were I should have known better to post personal thought. Don't know what I was thinking.

Makes me look like an idiot...:lol: You're making yourself look like a fool saying the NES had no good games...here, I'll give you a list:

-Super Mario Bros 1-3

-Castlevania 1-3

-Mega Man 1-6

-Metroid

-Contra

-Punch Out

-Zelda 1/2

-Final Fantasy

-Dragon Warrior

-Battletoads

-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

-Kid Icarus

I think I've made my point. I think Kungfool has a similar stance too...I won't waste two minutes of my life and read your incredible theory.

Nope, because for most NES fans by bottom half would make perfect sense, so unless you or Kung actually read and address what I said you never read it and are a bunch of jack holeswhich legacy platforms continues to become filled with.
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Didn't read lol.Shockwave-DASH
Because your alt wrote it?

And yeah, I did read it, do not agree, sure, there's some good gems that were underlooked like you said, the the ones that were popular and praised were praised for good reason. In no way were Zelda and Metroid bad games, you're only gonna lose any little credibility you had left by saying something like that. You just seem like those hipster kids that can't like anything popular and can only like the "underground gamez".

And what "legally debatable/illegal means" are you even talking about? Elaborate.

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i read your theory and you said that you hate the NES. That is blasphemy and just wrong. It is responsible for making gaming what it is today.
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[QUOTE="bowserjr123"]

[QUOTE="Thenumber48"] If you don't know what area that statment came from then jumping to conclusions makes you look like an idiot. Not that it matters, there are 7 thread on the front page were I should have known better to post personal thought. Don't know what I was thinking.Thenumber48

Makes me look like an idiot...:lol: You're making yourself look like a fool saying the NES had no good games...here, I'll give you a list:

-Super Mario Bros 1-3

-Castlevania 1-3

-Mega Man 1-6

-Metroid

-Contra

-Punch Out

-Zelda 1/2

-Final Fantasy

-Dragon Warrior

-Battletoads

-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

-Kid Icarus

I think I've made my point. I think Kungfool has a similar stance too...I won't waste two minutes of my life and read your incredible theory.

Nope, because for most NES fans by bottom half would make perfect sense, so unless you or Kung actually read and address what I said you never read it and are a bunch of jack holeswhich legacy platforms continues to become filled with.

Ugh I gave you the benefit of the doubt and read the last half...:lol: I tried not to crack up. "NES was a dictator," rightfully so in a good way! It had the best games out of the competition and revitalized the video game industry...

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"]Didn't read lol.Dudersaper

Because your alt wrote it?

And yeah, I did read it, do not agree, sure, there's some good gems that were underlooked like you said, the the ones that were popular and praised were praised for good reason. In no way were Zelda and Metroid bad games, you're only gonna lose any little credibility you had left by saying something like that. You just seem like those hipster kids that can't like anything popular and can only like the "underground gamez".

And what "legally debatable/illegal means" are you even talking about? Elaborate.

Lol people stillthink I'm an alt. I guess the mods trying to ban me for thinking the same thing but couldn't must be lying when they let me go after finding out I was not. Lol people just don;t like me on Legacy platforms. Next I am emerald warrior because I do actually like Kings Field but never mentioned it until now. Whoops.
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#19 Thenumber48
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i read your theory and you said that you hate the NES. That is blasphemy and just wrong. It is responsible for making gaming what it is today.luckykoopsie
Never said that, you want to be reported? "legally debatable/illegal means"" When the hell did I say that in the OP? Nowhere? Just go kill yourself nobody actually read the thing, and because I have thoughts you don't get you act like a whininy little baby instead of pointing out what you disagree with or asking me how I came to any of the conclusions. Just a bunch of shameful kids that don;t know how to have a mature conversation that pretend like they have been around for awhile. If so then you might as well lock yourselves up because this is the dumbest reaction to something I have seen to a thread since I got here a couple months ago even on SW it wasn't this bad.
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Shockwave-DASH

HA HA HA!!! I caught you! They are the same person. We all knew it! He was talking about his "OP", as in the orilignal post right above me, which was word for word what you see but originally posted by Shockwave-DASH rather than Thenumber48 which you see now. Troll is proven.

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Emerald_Warrior

HA HA HA!!! I caught you! They are the same person. We all knew it! He was talking about his "OP", as in the oriignal post. Which was posted by Thenumber48. Troll is proven.

Well played. Guess I have to stop trolling now.
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[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Shockwave-DASH

HA HA HA!!! I caught you! They are the same person. We all knew it! He was talking about his "OP", as in the oriignal post. Which was posted by Thenumber48. Troll is proven.

Well played. Guess I have to stop trolling now.

Good riddance

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

HA HA HA!!! I caught you! They are the same person. We all knew it! He was talking about his "OP", as in the oriignal post. Which was posted by Thenumber48. Troll is proven.

bowserjr123

Well played. Guess I have to stop trolling now.

Good riddance

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#24 bowserjr123
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[QUOTE="bowserjr123"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Well played. Guess I have to stop trolling now.Dudersaper

Good riddance

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Don't jinx it :P

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[QUOTE="bowserjr123"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Well played. Guess I have to stop trolling now.Dudersaper

Good riddance

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This however does not change the fact that there was indeed mods proving because of people like you I am not the OTHER GUY who you guys keep thinking I am. If you don't believe me you could try asking. You'll just end up wrong.
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I knew it was him since his very first post. Another48 hours, dakansig, shockwave what ever profile he uses he always gives himself away with that weird typo he always does where he spells a contraction with a semicolon. Like can;t won;t.

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Next I am emerald warrior because I do actually like Kings Field but never mentioned it until now. Whoops.Shockwave-DASH


:lol: I can assure you with 100% certainty that none of us will ever confuse you with EMERALD.

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I knew it was him since his very first post. Another48 hours, dakansig, shockwave what ever profile he uses he always gives himself away with that weird typo he always does where he spells a contraction with a semicolon. Like can;t won;t.

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Like lots of other people on this site? Want pictures? I am not either of thse people this was already decided which had my account locked for like 2 weeks shut up.
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[QUOTE="thecrypticodor"]

I knew it was him since his very first post. Another48 hours, dakansig, shockwave what ever profile he uses he always gives himself away with that weird typo he always does where he spells a contraction with a semicolon. Like can;t won;t.

Shockwave-DASH

Like lots of other people on this site? Want pictures? I am not either of thse people this was already decided which had my account locked for like 2 weeks shut up.

You've been caught dude. You slipped up and ratted yourself out. Give it up.

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="thecrypticodor"]

I knew it was him since his very first post. Another48 hours, dakansig, shockwave what ever profile he uses he always gives himself away with that weird typo he always does where he spells a contraction with a semicolon. Like can;t won;t.

Emerald_Warrior

Like lots of other people on this site? Want pictures? I am not either of thse people this was already decided which had my account locked for like 2 weeks shut up.

You've been caught dude. You slipped up and ratted yourself out. Give it up.

I am not talking about that I sam talking about the person he is accusing me of being. Try to keep up dear.
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[QUOTE="thecrypticodor"]

I knew it was him since his very first post. Another48 hours, dakansig, shockwave what ever profile he uses he always gives himself away with that weird typo he always does where he spells a contraction with a semicolon. Like can;t won;t.

Shockwave-DASH

Like lots of other people on this site? Want pictures? I am not either of thse people this was already decided which had my account locked for like 2 weeks shut up.

I bet you can find a few instances of people making that typo. But you do it all the time the same as those other profiles that I have mentioned who all make very similar threads.

I don't even see the point of the mods locking your account you'll just make another one. At least this way we know who you are, and know not to take you seriously.

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Emerald_Warrior

HA HA HA!!! I caught you! They are the same person. We all knew it! He was talking about his "OP", as in the orilignal post right above me, which was word for word what you see but originally posted by Shockwave-DASH rather than Thenumber48 which you see now. Troll is proven.

:lol: I knew it.

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="thecrypticodor"]

I knew it was him since his very first post. Another48 hours, dakansig, shockwave what ever profile he uses he always gives himself away with that weird typo he always does where he spells a contraction with a semicolon. Like can;t won;t.

thecrypticodor

Like lots of other people on this site? Want pictures? I am not either of thse people this was already decided which had my account locked for like 2 weeks shut up.

I bet you can find a few instances of people making that typo. But you do it all the time the same as those other profiles that I have mentioned who all make very similar threads.

I don't even see the point of the mods locking your account you'll just make another one. At least this way we know who you are, and know not to take you seriously.

You don't know who I am. If I was who you are thinking I would have been banned, my posts and threads are nothing like whoever you guys are claiming I am and the mods themselves and they checked and came to that conclusion. You can veryfy by checking my posting history and seeing a 2 week or so hiatus of my account which happended right during a fast back and foruth conversation in a thread.
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[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Seabas989

HA HA HA!!! I caught you! They are the same person. We all knew it! He was talking about his "OP", as in the orilignal post right above me, which was word for word what you see but originally posted by Shockwave-DASH rather than Thenumber48 which you see now. Troll is proven.

:lol: I knew it.

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#35 Seabas989
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[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

HA HA HA!!! I caught you! They are the same person. We all knew it! He was talking about his "OP", as in the orilignal post right above me, which was word for word what you see but originally posted by Shockwave-DASH rather than Thenumber48 which you see now. Troll is proven.

Shockwave-DASH

:lol: I knew it.

i-ain-t-even-mad-pl-ffffff

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#36 thecrypticodor
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You don't know who I am. If I was who you are thinking I would have been banned, my posts and threads are nothing like whoever you guys are claiming I am and the mods themselves and they checked and came to that conclusion. You can veryfy by checking my posting history and seeing a 2 week or so hiatus of my account which happended right during a fast back and foruth conversation in a thread.Shockwave-DASH

Oh please like that proves anything. I'm sure all the mods could have done was verify that you weren't using the same IP as before.