Is the Streets of Rage series racist?

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#1 Containmomentum
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i am going to tell you the same thing that i said through my head when SOR2 came out and i first put it in my system. Why is Adam kidnapped? Is it because they didn't want the default selected character in the game? All 3 characters looked cool right? ok. now they replace him with a short unmuscular kid. That seems like an insult to Adam to me. Also, in SOR3 now he's "Busy". Busy? Really? not kicking ass and saving the world? And even Skate is gimped in 3. Heck, i think there's something wrong here. I mean Adam or or Axel (Mostly Adam0 where like the icons of the first game, and still are. they just threw adam to the side. Why? because somethings clearly wrong. It's even funnier that the type of music in each game with the exception of the 3rd game all focus on types of music that would be generated by- point is, the whole thing seems strange to me.
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#2 Renegade_Fury  Online
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No.

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#3 Containmomentum
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No.

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This just sounds like denial with no backup explanation. still a good game series just think it's racist.
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

No.

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This just sounds like denial with no backup explanation. still a good game series just think it's racist.

lol, no. Thinking it's racist is reading deeply into something that isn't there. So I'm to believe because Adam isn't in SoR2 and SoR3 that means it's racist? Following this logic, if they put Adam in two because he was "iconic," then you'd be calling the series sexist if Blaze was the one kidnapped. Why not put him in 3 then? Well you already have a new memorable and unqie character in Skate, so why replace him for a character that's just going to be similar to Axel? As for Skate being gimped, you can just as well say the same thing about Axel and Blaze since the gameplay in 3 is slower and harder than in 2. I think it'd be easier to call out other series like Final Fight and Double Dragon for not having a character like Adam or Skate, period.

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#5 Containmomentum
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[QUOTE="Containmomentum"][QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

No.

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This just sounds like denial with no backup explanation. still a good game series just think it's racist.

lol, no. Thinking it's racist is reading deeply into something that isn't there. So I'm to believe because Adam isn't in SoR2 and SoR3 that means it's racist? Following this logic, if they put Adam in two because he was "iconic," then you'd be calling the series sexist if Blaze was the one kidnapped. Why not put him in 3 then? Well you already have a new memorable and unqie character in Skate, so why replace him for a character that's just going to be similar to Axel? As for Skate being gimped, you can just as well say the same thing about Axel and Blaze since the gameplay in 3 is slower and harder than in 2. I think it'd be easier to call out other series like Final Fight and Double Dragon for not having a character like Adam or Skate, period.

No, Adam was the default character. They choose to replace Adam with a short kid with chains and his hat on backwars, and in the 3rd game he's gimped more then the other 2. There's clealry something wrong there. The kidnapping thing was already strange but in 3 he's "busy?" doing what? There's no deep thinking here, the above is clearly noticeable.
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#6 Renegade_Fury  Online
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="Containmomentum"] This just sounds like denial with no backup explanation. still a good game series just think it's racist.Containmomentum

lol, no. Thinking it's racist is reading deeply into something that isn't there. So I'm to believe because Adam isn't in SoR2 and SoR3 that means it's racist? Following this logic, if they put Adam in two because he was "iconic," then you'd be calling the series sexist if Blaze was the one kidnapped. Why not put him in 3 then? Well you already have a new memorable and unqie character in Skate, so why replace him for a character that's just going to be similar to Axel? As for Skate being gimped, you can just as well say the same thing about Axel and Blaze since the gameplay in 3 is slower and harder than in 2. I think it'd be easier to call out other series like Final Fight and Double Dragon for not having a character like Adam or Skate, period.

No, Adam was the default character. They choose to replace Adam with a short kid with chains and his hat on backwars, and in the 3rd game he's gimped more then the other 2. There's clealry something wrong there. The kidnapping thing was already strange but in 3 he's "busy?" doing what? There's no deep thinking here, the above is clearly noticeable.

lol, so you're just going to ignore everything I wrote? Ok then, but you're the only one seeing this "clearly" notciable issue that no one called out or cared about 20 years ago .

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#7 Bubble_Man
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Nah, it's not racist; and I won't bother trying to back up my statement since it's so obvious to begin with. Funny how some people go so far out of their way to call games racist, sexist, or some other word with the suffix "ist."

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#8 Dudersaper
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I agree, there are also lots of other games I find racist, like Pong and Tetris.
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#9 nameless12345
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No, but Street Fighter II is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGSKZgEnbYI

j/k :P

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#10 garrett_duffman
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Axel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Adam. also skate has HOO-HEE-HEE and a dash attack. Streets of rage 2 had some of the most well-rounded characters I have ever seen in a beat-em-up, and it is most certainly not racists. plus HOO-HEE-HEE. your argument is invalid. HOO-HEE-HEE.
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#11 Shenmue_Jehuty
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I never got the impression that it was racist, but then again I haven't playd any Streets of Rage games since I was probably in middle school.

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#12 WiiCubeM1
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... no.

Adam's the best character in the first game, and his little brother is awesome in the second one. I've never played the third one, but Skate's still in that one.

It's a game. There is nothing too deep to read into an early 90's beat'em up.

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#13 Emerald_Warrior
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No.

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This. Nuff said.

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#14 andmcq
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SOR isn't Racist.

Sega Rally was though.

Yes, I'm joking.

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Is my beard made of green spinach? :P This has been in pretty much every side-scrolling beat-em-up, actually. Perhaps it's to make people go more, "Woohoo!" when they return. Guy from Final Fight wasn't in Final Fight 2 (though his cousin was), but he was in Final Fight 3. It's possible that there was going to be another Streets of Rage game, but it never made it. (Au di daw! Au di daw! :cry: :P) To put it bluntly, no.
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#16 JigglyWiggly_
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yes which is why it is a gud game
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#17 lightleggy
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This reminds me about the thread they made like a year ago about human revolution being racist because there was a character who was a black junky :lol:
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Yes, it was charged in the beating of Rodney King, but later acquitted due to a hung jury.

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#19 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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The 80s weren't as pc as today. Try Final Fight 3. All the enemies in this game of are a darker color for the first several levels. Then you reach France, finally, some light enemies. Oh wait, halfway through the level you jump into the sewer and begin fighting darker enemies again. And guess what, they are breaking out of cages.
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The scenario of a black person being captured is no different to the scenario of a white person being captured.

I might as well call you racist.

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The scenario of a black person being captured is no different to the scenario of a white person being captured.

I might as well call you racist.

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#22 rilpas
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The scenario of a black person being captured is no different to the scenario of a white person being captured.

I might as well call you racist.

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#23 KnightSkull
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TC are you serious?

I mean really serious?

If you are then you sound like a moron.

In the first game Axel and Adam are too similar to each other, so for the 2nd game they took one out and replaced him with a charecter that was different from the others. As for the 3rd game why put that same character back in that would, yet again, be similar to one that is already there?

How is that racist? Just because the one they took out was the black guy?

Looks like you're grasping at straws on this one.

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[QUOTE="Containmomentum"][QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

lol, no. Thinking it's racist is reading deeply into something that isn't there. So I'm to believe because Adam isn't in SoR2 and SoR3 that means it's racist? Following this logic, if they put Adam in two because he was "iconic," then you'd be calling the series sexist if Blaze was the one kidnapped. Why not put him in 3 then? Well you already have a new memorable and unqie character in Skate, so why replace him for a character that's just going to be similar to Axel? As for Skate being gimped, you can just as well say the same thing about Axel and Blaze since the gameplay in 3 is slower and harder than in 2. I think it'd be easier to call out other series like Final Fight and Double Dragon for not having a character like Adam or Skate, period.

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No, Adam was the default character. They choose to replace Adam with a short kid with chains and his hat on backwars, and in the 3rd game he's gimped more then the other 2. There's clealry something wrong there. The kidnapping thing was already strange but in 3 he's "busy?" doing what? There's no deep thinking here, the above is clearly noticeable.

lol, so you're just going to ignore everything I wrote? Ok then, but you're the only one seeing this "clearly" notciable issue that no one called out or cared about 20 years ago .

I am not ignoring anything, you denying that in this particular circumstance none of your examples fit. If Blase was kidnapped it would turn the series into double dragon. Which would make the series suck. Also, even ignoring that, she would have still have been in the 3rdgame. Skate by the time 3 was out was just as memorable as Adam because both had one game, and the professor/dr guy should be the one "Busy" not adam, it doesn't make any logical sense. Similar to Axel? Adam was default, and if they could add a whle new character in each game with different moves what's stopping them from changing and diffracting Axel and Adams attacks? Especially since the moves change a bit for Axel every game any way? Skate had his most efective and well balanced moves gimped to the weakest character in the game, while the others may have been slower, they got more new moves as well, and the professor had more, and more powerfulmoves then him by default. I t's clear nothing you said actually works when you think about it. The whole thing is adam is default, oops, Adam is kidnapped. Weird. Replaced by ghetto guy with chains with backwards cap making him arguably the best character in SOR2, most likely do illusion people into forgetting loosing Adam was bad, or at least the most balanced. 3, a scientist/dr guy joins while ADAM is the one "Busy" and not able to join and they make Skate the weakest character in the game. Also, how do you know no one called that out 20 years ago? I believe now at this point you're loosing it. You're speaking for everyone based on probably like 3 friends you had with yu playing the game. I know many people including strangers that alled that but I guess we do not exist, nope.
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I don't think so but it would have been nice if Adam was available with a cheat code.

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#26 Containmomentum
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TC are you serious?

I mean really serious?

If you are then you sound like a moron.

In the first game Axel and Adam are too similar to each other, so for the 2nd game they took one out and replaced him with a charecter that was different from the others. As for the 3rd game why put that same character back in that would, yet again, be similar to one that is already there?

How is that racist? Just because the one they took out was the black guy?

Looks like you're grasping at straws on this one.

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So what stopped them from chainging adam and axel to be different when they added a new character? Heck, what stopped them fro just having four characters? Both make what you stated wrong. As for the 3rd game, they had 4 characters, and again, what was stopping them from chaging adam? Axel had new moves every game. So all you're doing is imaginingin your mind all 3 games are exactly the same. It's racist because they replaced Adam with a dude with chains and a baseball cap and overpowered him to make you guys not realize it, then make him the wekaest character in the 3rd game and add the doctor even though that itself, makes no sense at that point. There's no grasping. Again, not saying the game is bad. Just wrong in that one part.

I don't think so but it would have been nice if Adam was available with a cheat code.

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So what stopped them from chainging adam and axel to be different when they added a new character? Heck, what stopped them fro just having four characters? Both make what you stated wrong. As for the 3rd game, they had 4 characters, and again, what was stopping them from chaging adam? Axel had new moves every game. So all you're doing is imaginingin your mind all 3 games are exactly the same. It's racist because they replaced Adam with a dude with chains and a baseball cap and overpowered him to make you guys not realize it, then make him the wekaest character in the 3rd game and add the doctor even though that itself, makes no sense at that point. There's no grasping. Again, not saying the game is bad. Just wrong in that one part.Containmomentum

The first game had 3 characters a woman and 2 guys. The 2 guys being very similar not only in moves but build.

The second game had 4 characters, they took out one of the guys from the first game and replaced him with 2 charecters that were very different from the others. A big, slow but powerful charecter and a small but fast charecter. They could of kept Adam in but there wasn't much they could of done to make him and Axel that different from each other. Because of their builds one could of been slightly stronger and the other slightly faster and they would of had some different moves but that's it.

What would you prefer having? 4 charecters where 2 of them are only slightly different from each other or having 4 charecters that are completely different?

As for how Skate looked, that is a '90 sterotype and so what if it is? There are a lot of games that use stereotypes and they won't stop any time soon.

The third game also had 4 charecters, with Dr. Zan replacing Max. By doing this it kept all 4 charecters very different from each other. Why didn't they put Adam back in? Maybe because of the same reason I stated above, there wasn't much they could of done to make him and Axel that different.

If you want to call that racist then go ahead.

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Think of it this way, at least you admitted the games were good. Except 3, that was.... I suppose you should put it this way. Adam, to me and many people I know, I didn't even think was Black until SOR2. That was debatable. To be honest, I think Skate clarified the whole thing. Also, they wanted to change up the gameplay. Think of this, Adam was the default character, but they decided to change it up. Do you have the police officer with the rocket launcher helping you anymore? no, they removed them, added some moves, and replaced the style and changed the gameplay a bit. Think mortal Kombat and how dull it would be if Liu Kang never died and it was just the same old predictable liu kang wins everytime. Gameplay change up. The only think i agree with you on is the third game, but I think they did that because they didn't want anyone to forget he existed, and the first 2 games in many peoples opinion, and mine, are the best in the serious even soundtrack wise, so who ouldn't go back to the first game Once reminded about adamn in the third game, they are pretty much advertising the first. heck, i think they did that on purpose once they realised how crappy 3 was in almost all levels.
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#29 PetJel
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The only thing racist here is the fact that you seperate the SoR characters based on skincolor and make assumptions from that.

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#30 Containmomentum
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The only thing racist here is the fact that you seperate the SoR characters based on skincolor and make assumptions from that.

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I made assuptions based on Skate wearing gold chains and Adam having the worst execuse possible in the 3rd game.