Is there any downside to disabling NES lockout chip?

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#1 lordoftheleft
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I've done it to one of my NES's before and it never reset it self again after that. But what I want to now is there any downside at all to doing this. Could it interfere with loading some unlicensed NES games that employ various methods to bypass the chip.

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#2 Jakandsig_
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I've done it to one of my NES's before and it never reset it self again after that. But what I want to now is there any downside at all to doing this. Could it interfere with loading some unlicensed NES games that employ various methods to bypass the chip.

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Depends on two things answer these questions: 1. Is it the regular NES or top loader? 2. Do you like the gaming giant (at the time) called Wisdom Tree?
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[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Depends on two things answer these questions: 1. Is it the regular NES or top loader? 2. Do you like the gaming giant (at the time) called Wisdom Tree?

1. Regular 2. Oh god no
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[QUOTE="lordoftheleft"][QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Depends on two things answer these questions: 1. Is it the regular NES or top loader? 2. Do you like the gaming giant (at the time) called Wisdom Tree?

1. Regular 2. Oh god no

Ok so 2. is immediate regardless of which one. The list of games that don;t work are randomized depending on either if you have top or normal loading Nes. However there is a rather I believe 75 games for top and 98 games fo regular that don;t work if I remember when they sent out the notice. Eventually companies began utilizing the tech for the NES to the point where any altering and things would occur or not work. 111 games have visual effects, around a slightly the same but lower number have that problem on regular, and top has over 2 dozen and regular had about 3 dozen for control effects. Visual effects include game graphic being altered, reflected, negative, pixelated, flashingetc. Control effects involve lack of responce, no resonce, opposite interactions, glitches, non existent objects, mirroring of the gameslevels. Now the god news is most "talked about games" most won't have much of aproblem with this Although I don;t think Crystalis would work on your Nes if you ever heard of it but I believe the old ag said about 1% of pupular games don;t work on the regualr NES (Still a decent number though) and around 1.5-2% for the top loader. Switches when talking about control issues. although visual issues are around the 35% or higher for each. Bu basically you should be ok. Name some games you are concerned about and I will tell you if they work.
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Ok so 2. is immediate regardless of which one. The list of games that don;t work are randomized depending on either if you have top or normal loading Nes. However there is a rather I believe 75 games for top and 98 games fo regular that don;t work if I remember when they sent out the notice. Eventually companies began utilizing the tech for the NES to the point where any altering and things would occur or not work. 111 games have visual effects, around a slightly the same but lower number have that problem on regular, and top has over 2 dozen and regular had about 3 dozen for control effects. Visual effects include game graphic being altered, reflected, negative, pixelated, flashingetc. Control effects involve lack of responce, no resonce, opposite interactions, glitches, non existent objects, mirroring of the gameslevels. Now the god news is most "talked about games" most won't have much of aproblem with this Although I don;t think Crystalis would work on your Nes if you ever heard of it but I believe the old ag said about 1% of pupular games don;t work on the regualr NES (Still a decent number though) and around 1.5-2% for the top loader. Switches when talking about control issues. although visual issues are around the 35% or higher for each. Bu basically you should be ok. Name some games you are concerned about and I will tell you if they work.Jakandsig_

I'm not so much worried about any game in particular Since all of the games in my collection play flawlessly on the NES with the disabled chip. And I have a couple other NES's hanging around so if a game failed to start it wouldn't be a big deal. I was just curious to know if it would cause any issues in case I decided I wanted to do it to to the rest of them. Looks like I won't be doing that.

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[QUOTE="lordoftheleft"][QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Depends on two things answer these questions: 1. Is it the regular NES or top loader? 2. Do you like the gaming giant (at the time) called Wisdom Tree?Jakandsig_
1. Regular 2. Oh god no

Ok so 2. is immediate regardless of which one. The list of games that don;t work are randomized depending on either if you have top or normal loading Nes. However there is a rather I believe 75 games for top and 98 games fo regular that don;t work if I remember when they sent out the notice. Eventually companies began utilizing the tech for the NES to the point where any altering and things would occur or not work. 111 games have visual effects, around a slightly the same but lower number have that problem on regular, and top has over 2 dozen and regular had about 3 dozen for control effects. Visual effects include game graphic being altered, reflected, negative, pixelated, flashingetc. Control effects involve lack of responce, no resonce, opposite interactions, glitches, non existent objects, mirroring of the gameslevels. Now the god news is most "talked about games" most won't have much of aproblem with this Although I don;t think Crystalis would work on your Nes if you ever heard of it but I believe the old ag said about 1% of pupular games don;t work on the regualr NES (Still a decent number though) and around 1.5-2% for the top loader. Switches when talking about control issues. although visual issues are around the 35% or higher for each. Bu basically you should be ok. Name some games you are concerned about and I will tell you if they work.

I can personally guarantee that Crystalis will work. I own it and it's one of my all-time favorite games.

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I think a game that requires the 10-NES program might be Action 52..but that piece of trash isn't even worth a spit. So no there aren't really any downsides, if anything the lockout chip caused more harm than good.