Just finished AC: Brotherhood... what?? (SPOILERS)

Okay, so I'm sure there's been threads on this already, but I felt this warranted a post. That ending was RIDICULOUS. I was expecting some sort of explanation after the credits rolled, but that was it. Desmond kills Lucy. :cry:

Right up there with Halo 2's ending imo (in that same sort of ohmygodwhereisthenextgame way).

What did you guys think of the ending?

Typical AC cliffhanger

wonder how they'll start off AC3?

Instead of filling in the answers for the questions AC2 left it just seemed to open even more questions. I'm guessing Lucy is a templar (she did glow yellow at the end of AC2 when you turned on eagle vision) Though when it comes down to it, I thought the ending was decent. It was completely unexpected and the voices at the end are probably a group of assassins putting Desmond back in the animus (or abstergo but I doubt that)

What I find more ridiculous in a completely "that-is-the-most-nonsensical-thing-ever" sort of way is how a now dead race (from millennia ago) can somehow control what Desmond does physically in another time-period. That made me roll my eyes real hard. Just because it happened while he was holding the POE still made no sense to me. I don't care how advanced their technology was.

Well I've come to expect wtf endings from ac.

The story in this series in stupid. The gameplay however is awesome.GodModeEnabled

The story isn't that stupid at all. Predictable? Sure. But stupid? Hell no.

I will say that the endings in AC Brotherhood leave a lot to be desired. I too was thrown off by Desmond killing Lucy, so I hope Ubisoft explains why that act was committed.

I don't like how complicated the storyline is getting. I liked it better when it was just a war between Assassins and Templars, none of this end of the world 2012 bull.awesomeface

Instead of filling in the answers for the questions AC2 left it just seemed to open even more questions.

XileLord

You can't sell the next game by answering all the questions in this one.

Seriously, though, like an above poster said, AC:B was not necessitated by the AC storyline as the writers initially imagined it. But when you have a game that sells like AC does and you go to your publisher and say, "we're only gonna do one more," that probably doesn't go over well. AC:B is a completely unnecessary side story that was written into the series so they could sell an extra game. That's it. It's padding to make a few more dollars off the franchise. This sort of thing happens with fantasy/sci-fi books all the time with similarly disappointing results.

As to why Lucy was stabbed. Well, it's clear that Desmond's bloodline is a hybrid of that ancient race and their human slaves. The purpose of these hybrids seems to be to preserve the ancients and return their bloodline to the world at some point in the future. I think Juno senses that Lucy is a threat because she is not the other half of the bloodline that Desmond is meant to join with (Eve) and that's why he is forced to stab her...so he can't fall in love with Lucy and delay the return of the bloodline or dilute it.

To another point - Juno's ability to control Desmond through a recording is unremarkable in the sense that previous games explain that control of humans is achieved through genetic engineering and not any sort of mind control. AC2 explains that humans were engineered on a genetic level to respond to the POE. Think of humans as golems and POEs as control rods. The POEs simply activate a dormant set of neuro-transmitters in the brain designed to subvert the will and enourage subservience, iirc. Because of this, it is unnecessary to have an intellegent being present to control Desmond - something as simple as the right radio signal will suffice. In fact this is the basis for the satellite that the Templars are launching in December.

As to why Lucy was stabbed. Well, it's clear that Desmond's bloodline is a hybrid of that ancient race and their human slaves. The purpose of these hybrids seems to be to preserve the ancients and return their bloodline to the world at some point in the future. I think Juno senses that Lucy is a threat because she is not the other half of the bloodline that Desmond is meant to join with (Eve) and that's why he is forced to stab her...so he can't fall in love with Lucy and delay the return of the bloodline or dilute it. To another point - Juno's ability to control Desmond through a recording is unremarkable in the sense that previous games explain that control of humans is achieved through genetic engineering and not any sort of mind control. AC2 explains that humans were engineered on a genetic level to respond to the POE. Think of humans as golems and POEs as control rods. The POEs simply activate a dormant set of neuro-transmitters in the brain designed to subvert the will and enourage subservience, iirc. Because of this, it is unnecessary to have an intellegent being present to control Desmond - something as simple as the right radio signal will suffice. In fact this is the basis for the satellite that the Templars are launching in December.Ish_basic

[QUOTE="Ish_basic"]As to why Lucy was stabbed. Well, it's clear that Desmond's bloodline is a hybrid of that ancient race and their human slaves. The purpose of these hybrids seems to be to preserve the ancients and return their bloodline to the world at some point in the future. I think Juno senses that Lucy is a threat because she is not the other half of the bloodline that Desmond is meant to join with (Eve) and that's why he is forced to stab her...so he can't fall in love with Lucy and delay the return of the bloodline or dilute it. To another point - Juno's ability to control Desmond through a recording is unremarkable in the sense that previous games explain that control of humans is achieved through genetic engineering and not any sort of mind control. AC2 explains that humans were engineered on a genetic level to respond to the POE. Think of humans as golems and POEs as control rods. The POEs simply activate a dormant set of neuro-transmitters in the brain designed to subvert the will and enourage subservience, iirc. Because of this, it is unnecessary to have an intellegent being present to control Desmond - something as simple as the right radio signal will suffice. In fact this is the basis for the satellite that the Templars are launching in December.GodModeEnabled

The only interpretation I'm doing is with Lucy getting stabbed and the purpose of the hybridization with humans (maybe it was just jungle fever). We don't know why Lucy was stabbed for sure, but we know it's because she's not Eve.

Juno specifically refers to the assassins as hybrids of the ancients and humans in the finale of Brotherhood. I know it's hard to listen to her because you're trying to platform...it really annoyed me, in fact, that she insisted on talking while I was trying to make jumps...but it's there. The Eagle vision is a diluted version of an extrasensory power used by the ancients - a sixth sense. Juno says all this specifically.

The rest is from codexes and such from AC2. But it's all information the games give you, as best as I can remember it, including the way POEs work on people. I'd have to go reload my AC2 save to refresh my memory of it all.

I'm not sure I'm convinced that Lucy is dead yet, idk maybe I'm just in denialKeredsBlaze

I saw the stabbing myself on Brotherhood. It was done long enough for the two of them to drop to the floor like that. So I expect to see Desmond obviously survive with Lucy dead. I guess it was the way it was ordained.

It's not confirmed Lucy is dead at the end of the game. It just shows her lying there.

It's not confirmed Lucy is dead at the end of the game. It just shows her lying there.

MathMattS

You didn't see the blood coming out of her stomach when she got stabbed?

@awsomeface I couldn't agree with u more.

The only interpretation I'm doing is with Lucy getting stabbed and the purpose of the hybridization with humans (maybe it was just jungle fever). We don't know why Lucy was stabbed for sure, but we know it's because she's not Eve.Juno specifically refers to the assassins as hybrids of the ancients and humans in the finale of Brotherhood. I know it's hard to listen to her because you're trying to platform...it really annoyed me, in fact, that she insisted on talking while I was trying to make jumps...but it's there. The Eagle vision is a diluted version of an extrasensory power used by the ancients - a sixth sense. Juno says all this specifically.The rest is from codexes and such from AC2. But it's all information the games give you, as best as I can remember it, including the way POEs work on people. I'd have to go reload my AC2 save to refresh my memory of it all.Ish_basic

[QUOTE="MathMattS"]

It's not confirmed Lucy is dead at the end of the game. It just shows her lying there.

Metamania

You didn't see the blood coming out of her stomach when she got stabbed?

True, but she's not necessarily dead. It cut the scene soon after she hit the floor.