Most overlooked/underrated or unknown games...

Hi Everyone,

I think there are many excellent games out which are totally unknown to the most

Name here all the forgotten gems:

i start with a great NES title named "Little Samson"

heres a clip to this great game...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6m06K5iTmBY

Guardian War (3DO)

Dragon Force (Saturn)

Dark Savior (Saturn)

Kings Field 1 & 2 (PS1)

Dragon Warrior 4 (NES) - the best game I ever played.

Tecmo World Wrestling (NES)

Duck Tales (NES)

Crystallis (NES)

Batman: Return of the Joker (NES) - possibly the best graphics from the 8 bit era, and the hardest to find today. You can't even find the ROM to emulate this game on the Internet.

Zelda 2 deserves so much more than it gotWushuFighter

*Barf*

Dragon Warrior 4 (NES) - the best game I ever played.

Tecmo World Wrestling (NES)

Duck Tales (NES)

Crystallis (NES)

Batman: Return of the Joker (NES) - possibly the best graphics from the 8 bit era, and the hardest to find today. You can't even find the ROM to emulate this game on the Internet.

jawallac

Yes, Duck Tales was AWESOME.

Dragon Force (Saturn)

chefstubbies

Dragon Force is actually one of the most overrated Saturn games. Not underrated or overlooked at all.

breath of fire 3 for the ps1.

[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]

Dragon Force (Saturn)

Panzer_Zwei

Dragon Force is actually one of the most overrated Saturn games. Not underrated or overlooked at all.

I disagree with you on several things.

1-Pretty much every game for the Sega Saturn could be regarded as unrecognized/underrated considering the relatively short lifespan of the console and dramatic lack of general sales.

2-GS greatest games of all time list means nothing to me. Dragon Force was an amazing game for it's time with great graphics, great story and addictive gameplay. But #1 most regarded Saturn game of all time? I don't think so. You are clearly forgetting about: Dark Savior (the Landstalker sequal fans had been waitng a long time for), Panzer Dragoon, Zwei, and Saga, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue & Lunar: Silver Star Story, and Shining Force 3.

3-Stating that Dragon Force is one of the most overrated Saturn games of all time is only your opinion. Nothing more. And it's an opinion I disagree with 100%.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="chefstubbies"]

Dragon Force (Saturn)

chefstubbies

Dragon Force is actually one of the most overrated Saturn games. Not underrated or overlooked at all.

I disagree with you on several things.

1-Pretty much every game for the Sega Saturn could be regarded as unrecognized/underrated considering the relatively short lifespan of the console and dramatic lack of general sales.

2-GS greatest games of all time list means nothing to me. Dragon Force was an amazing game for it's time with great graphics, great story and addictive gameplay. But #1 most regarded Saturn game of all time? I don't think so. You are clearly forgetting about: Dark Savior (the Landstalker sequal fans had been waitng a long time for), Panzer Dragoon, Zwei, and Saga, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue & Lunar: Silver Star Story, and Shining Force 3.

3-Stating that Dragon Force is one of the most overrated Saturn games of all time is only your opinion. Nothing more. And it's an opinion I disagree with 100%.

I'm not forgetting any game, I know the Saturn library perfectly from A to Z. Dragon Force was/is the #1 Saturn game on every single site that featured/features Saturn games. It is the #1 Saturn game at GameFaqs even since it's release. (and which is based on user preference not admins)

If you hanged around any gaming websites during and after the time of it's release, it would've be obvious to you as well.

Nobody praises those other games you mention save Panzer Dragoon and Shining Force III, they do praise Dragon Force.

If you actually bother to check around on how people actually rates Dragon Force you'll find the game is far from "underrated" as everybody seems to believe it is a masterpiece and only throw 9's and 10's at it.

Dragon Force had a lot of severe flaws, most important the awful A.I. that nobody ever mentions, and that actually make me wonder if people actually play it all through it or are just jumping around to conclusions just to praise it mindlessly or to justify their purchase.

You can disagree all you want, it doesn't make the game less flawed.

[QUOTE="chefstubbies"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="chefstubbies"]

Dragon Force (Saturn)

Panzer_Zwei

Dragon Force is actually one of the most overrated Saturn games. Not underrated or overlooked at all.

I disagree with you on several things.

1-Pretty much every game for the Sega Saturn could be regarded as unrecognized/underrated considering the relatively short lifespan of the console and dramatic lack of general sales.

2-GS greatest games of all time list means nothing to me. Dragon Force was an amazing game for it's time with great graphics, great story and addictive gameplay. But #1 most regarded Saturn game of all time? I don't think so. You are clearly forgetting about: Dark Savior (the Landstalker sequal fans had been waitng a long time for), Panzer Dragoon, Zwei, and Saga, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue & Lunar: Silver Star Story, and Shining Force 3.

3-Stating that Dragon Force is one of the most overrated Saturn games of all time is only your opinion. Nothing more. And it's an opinion I disagree with 100%.

I'm not forgetting any game, I know the Saturn library perfectly from A to Z. Dragon Force was/is the #1 Saturn game on every single site that featured/features Saturn games. It is the #1 Saturn game at GameFaqs even since it's release.

If you hanged around any gaming websites during and after the time of it's release, it would've be obvious to you as well.

Nobody praises those other games you mention save Panzer Dragoon and Shining Force III, they do praise Dragon Force.

If you actually bother to check around on how people actually rates Dragon Force you'll find the game is far from "underrated" as everybody seems to believe it is a masterpiece and only throw 9's and 10's at it.

Dragon Force had a lot of severe flaws, most important the awful A.I. that nobody ever mentions and that actually make me wonder if people actually play it all through it or are just jumping around to conclusions just to praise it mindlessly or to justify their purchase.

You can disagree all you want, it doesn't make the game less flawed.

First of all, you're being condescending for no reason, insinuating that I have no idea what I'm talking about.

You are obviously very proud of your "A-Z" Saturn game library knowledge so good for you. You are clearly a far better person than me based solely on that alone.

Why would I waste hours of my time "checking around" on how well the game did in ratings 12 years ago? What I am talking about is how literally everyone I know has never owned a Saturn, let alone played or even heard of Dragon Force.

I wasn't aware that Dragon Force is still the #1 Saturn game on GameFaq's...what recently released Saturn game are you suggesting they replace it with?

You are clearly a very astute person uncovering the flaws that existed in Dragon Force (forgetting about the fact that pretty much every game in existence 12 years ago suffered from numerous issues of some sort)

Yeah I did play through Dragon Force several times, and aside from your assumption that I "mindlessly praised it to justify my purchase" I enjoyed it despite the flaws that were present.

A game can have problems and still be enjoyable.

Don't be so opinionated that you are incapable of accepting that someone may enjoy a game that you didn't.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="chefstubbies"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="chefstubbies"]

Dragon Force (Saturn)

chefstubbies

Dragon Force is actually one of the most overrated Saturn games. Not underrated or overlooked at all.

I disagree with you on several things.

1-Pretty much every game for the Sega Saturn could be regarded as unrecognized/underrated considering the relatively short lifespan of the console and dramatic lack of general sales.

2-GS greatest games of all time list means nothing to me. Dragon Force was an amazing game for it's time with great graphics, great story and addictive gameplay. But #1 most regarded Saturn game of all time? I don't think so. You are clearly forgetting about: Dark Savior (the Landstalker sequal fans had been waitng a long time for), Panzer Dragoon, Zwei, and Saga, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue & Lunar: Silver Star Story, and Shining Force 3.

3-Stating that Dragon Force is one of the most overrated Saturn games of all time is only your opinion. Nothing more. And it's an opinion I disagree with 100%.

I'm not forgetting any game, I know the Saturn library perfectly from A to Z. Dragon Force was/is the #1 Saturn game on every single site that featured/features Saturn games. It is the #1 Saturn game at GameFaqs even since it's release.

If you hanged around any gaming websites during and after the time of it's release, it would've be obvious to you as well.

Nobody praises those other games you mention save Panzer Dragoon and Shining Force III, they do praise Dragon Force.

If you actually bother to check around on how people actually rates Dragon Force you'll find the game is far from "underrated" as everybody seems to believe it is a masterpiece and only throw 9's and 10's at it.

Dragon Force had a lot of severe flaws, most important the awful A.I. that nobody ever mentions and that actually make me wonder if people actually play it all through it or are just jumping around to conclusions just to praise it mindlessly or to justify their purchase.

You can disagree all you want, it doesn't make the game less flawed.

First of all, you're being condescending for no reason, insinuating that I have no idea what I'm talking about.

You are obviously very proud of your "A-Z" Saturn game library knowledge so good for you. You are clearly a far better person than me based solely on that alone.

Why would I waste hours of my time "checking around" on how well the game did in ratings 12 years ago? What I am talking about is how literally everyone I know has never owned a Saturn, let alone played or even heard of Dragon Force.

I wasn't aware that Dragon Force is still the #1 Saturn game on GameFaq's...what recently released Saturn game are you suggesting they replace it with?

You are clearly a very astute person uncovering the flaws that existed in Dragon Force (forgetting about the fact that pretty much every game in existence 12 years ago suffered from numerous issues of some sort)

Yeah I did play through Dragon Force several times, and aside from your assumption that I "mindlessly praised it to justify my purchase" I enjoyed it despite the flaws that were present.

A game can have problems and still be enjoyable.

Don't be so opinionated that you are incapable of accepting that someone may enjoy a game that you didn't.

And we aren't talking about slight A.I. issues, we're talking about totally broken A.I. with the CPU totally wasting their own units. And which for some reason everybody forgets about.

Also that none of your friends knows what a SEGA Saturn is, doesn't mean there weren't a lot of Saturn fans which the Saturn was their main system.

In any case my point was that Dragon Force is far from underrated. It is the most, or if you will one of the most high-regarded Saturn titles, which it seems you have just discovered it and acknowledge it.

If you enjoyed it, that's good. I'm not against it. But it is obvious to me, a lot of people do mindlessly overpraise it. Moreso than any other Saturn title.

The Saturn is my favourite console and SEGA is my favourite company, I have no reason to bash the game mindlessly. However the game is severily flawed, and the flaws are justified. I dislike blind praise most of all, it does more wrong than good.

And it's not really my point to say what other game should take over, or what should be regarded the #1 Saturn game. I'm just exposing the mindlessly praising around it "that does exist"

But how about Dragon Force II? If it has to be Dragon Force. it's like nobody even knows it exists, and it's a better game which fixed most of the issues and has more advantages like mixed units.

[QUOTE="chefstubbies"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="chefstubbies"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="chefstubbies"]

Dragon Force (Saturn)

Panzer_Zwei

Dragon Force is actually one of the most overrated Saturn games. Not underrated or overlooked at all.

I disagree with you on several things.

1-Pretty much every game for the Sega Saturn could be regarded as unrecognized/underrated considering the relatively short lifespan of the console and dramatic lack of general sales.

2-GS greatest games of all time list means nothing to me. Dragon Force was an amazing game for it's time with great graphics, great story and addictive gameplay. But #1 most regarded Saturn game of all time? I don't think so. You are clearly forgetting about: Dark Savior (the Landstalker sequal fans had been waitng a long time for), Panzer Dragoon, Zwei, and Saga, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue & Lunar: Silver Star Story, and Shining Force 3.

3-Stating that Dragon Force is one of the most overrated Saturn games of all time is only your opinion. Nothing more. And it's an opinion I disagree with 100%.

I'm not forgetting any game, I know the Saturn library perfectly from A to Z. Dragon Force was/is the #1 Saturn game on every single site that featured/features Saturn games. It is the #1 Saturn game at GameFaqs even since it's release.

If you hanged around any gaming websites during and after the time of it's release, it would've be obvious to you as well.

Nobody praises those other games you mention save Panzer Dragoon and Shining Force III, they do praise Dragon Force.

If you actually bother to check around on how people actually rates Dragon Force you'll find the game is far from "underrated" as everybody seems to believe it is a masterpiece and only throw 9's and 10's at it.

Dragon Force had a lot of severe flaws, most important the awful A.I. that nobody ever mentions and that actually make me wonder if people actually play it all through it or are just jumping around to conclusions just to praise it mindlessly or to justify their purchase.

You can disagree all you want, it doesn't make the game less flawed.

First of all, you're being condescending for no reason, insinuating that I have no idea what I'm talking about.

You are obviously very proud of your "A-Z" Saturn game library knowledge so good for you. You are clearly a far better person than me based solely on that alone.

Why would I waste hours of my time "checking around" on how well the game did in ratings 12 years ago? What I am talking about is how literally everyone I know has never owned a Saturn, let alone played or even heard of Dragon Force.

I wasn't aware that Dragon Force is still the #1 Saturn game on GameFaq's...what recently released Saturn game are you suggesting they replace it with?

You are clearly a very astute person uncovering the flaws that existed in Dragon Force (forgetting about the fact that pretty much every game in existence 12 years ago suffered from numerous issues of some sort)

Yeah I did play through Dragon Force several times, and aside from your assumption that I "mindlessly praised it to justify my purchase" I enjoyed it despite the flaws that were present.

A game can have problems and still be enjoyable.

Don't be so opinionated that you are incapable of accepting that someone may enjoy a game that you didn't.

And we aren't talking about slight A.I. issues, we're talking about totally broken A.I. with the CPU totally wasting their own units. And which for some reason everybody forgets about.

Also that none of your friends knows what a SEGA Saturn is, doesn't mean there weren't a lot of Saturn fans which the Saturn was their main system.

In any case my point was that Dragon Force is far from underrated. It is the most, or if you will one of the most high-regarded Saturn titles, which it seems you have just discovered it and acknowledge it.

If you enjoyed it, that's good. I'm not against it. But it is obvious to me, a lot of people do mindlessly overpraise it. Moreso than any other Saturn title.

The Saturn is my favourite console and SEGA is my favourite company, I have no reason to bash the game mindlessly. However the game is severily flawed, and the flaws are justified. I dislike blind praise most of all, it does more wrong than good.

And it's not really my point to say what other game should take over, or what should be regarded the #1 Saturn game. I'm just exposing the mindlessly praising around it "that does exist"

But how about Dragon Force II? If it has to be Dragon Force. it's like nobody even knows it exists, and it's a better game which fixed most of the issues and has more advantages like mixed units.

More than anything else, I'm taking offense to your insistence that I "blindly praise" Dragon Force simply because I enjoyed it. It's not like I have it displayed in a locked glass showcase or anything, I just remember it being a really fun strategy game. I don't "blindly praise" anything. Except my wife...she'd kill me if I didn't...

But aside from our arguing...you just mentioned Dragon Force 2. When was it released here? I'm going to go hang myself with my own shoelace...

How about Bushido Blade for the PS1?Yagr_Zero

I loved Bushido Blade. That and Tobal No.1 which I bought solely for the Final Fantasy 7 playable demo, but Tobal No.1 ended up being pretty good.

The Adventures of Batman & Robin for Sega Genesis. That was 1 hard game...even with 2 player co-op.

[QUOTE="WushuFighter"]Zelda 2 deserves so much more than it gotRelys

*Barf*

Yeah you barf because of how good it was.

^Kudos.

I'm going to pick Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem. Not because it's underrated as such, but because many people don't even mention it in GameCube discussions I've had - probably due to it bombing at retail. In all of the GameCube discussions I've had, I have always been the first to give it a mention. More people need to play this gem.

On the same note, The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening is always missing in Zelda discussions. I've heard countless people rant on about the brilliance of A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, and whatever, yet they always fail to mention LA, which I consider to be one of the most well designed games in the franchise, and also the first killer action-adventure on a handheld platform. Yet so many Zelda fans ignore it so they have more space to gush over ALttP and OoT... *sigh*

Custers Revenge on atari. Just kidding

You know, "The Thing" for Ps2. JReefer1

underrated? that was a terrible game.

i'll put forward 'mischief makers' for the n64, kinda got overlooked at the time for being a 2D sidescroller in the whole 3D craze.

oh and hugh jackman.....

Are you really sure that you want to get me started? I could go on about Rocket Jockey, Magic Carpet, Exile (the BBC Micro/C64/Amiga game, not whatever was released on old consoles), Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri, Outcast, Lightspeed/Hyperspeed, Starflight, Azrael's Tear, Albion, Sutte Hakkun, Emerald Dragon, Bulk Slash, and who knows what else that I can't recall at the moment... I must say, though, you have made me want to thoroughly investigate Little Samson. I've heard the title before, and seen an ending screenshot, but never bothered to view a video of it until now...and it looks like fun.NamelessPlayer

yeah little samson is a great jump n run with good controls and gameplay. :)

yeah little samson is a great jump n run with good controls and gameplay. :)AuthenticKaizen

[QUOTE="Yagr_Zero"]How about Bushido Blade for the PS1?chefstubbies

I loved Bushido Blade. That and Tobal No.1 which I bought solely for the Final Fantasy 7 playable demo, but Tobal No.1 ended up being pretty good.

Bushido Blade was good and come to think of it ... the game is still the most realistic fighting game out there to date! :shock:

Great games no one ever heard of

Future Cop L.A.P.D

Techmo's Deception

The Unholy War

Jersey Devil

Tomba

Blasto

Great games no one ever heard of

Future Cop L.A.P.D

The Unholy War

Tomba

Blasto

nVidiaGaMer

The second part of this just got put up since it talks about this topic.

Top Ten Neglected NES games

As far as the PS1 yeah, I wish Bushido Blade had a real sequel. 2 was just not... Bushido Blade-y enough.

Great games no one ever heard of

Future Cop L.A.P.D

Techmo's Deception

The Unholy War

Jersey Devil

Tomba

Blasto

nVidiaGaMer

Great choices, they are all great. The only one i haven't tried is Future Cop.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Great games no one ever heard of

Future Cop L.A.P.D

Techmo's Deception

The Unholy War

Jersey Devil

Tomba

Blasto

gokuofheaven

Great choices, they are all great. The only one i haven't tried is Future Cop.

Well you should try Future Cop. It has great multiplayer. The only downside to the game is that there are no checkpoints ... so if you die you have to start the whole level again.

[QUOTE="WushuFighter"]Zelda 2 deserves so much more than it gotRelys

*Barf*

Dragon Warrior 4 (NES) - the best game I ever played.

Tecmo World Wrestling (NES)

Duck Tales (NES)

Crystallis (NES)

Batman: Return of the Joker (NES) - possibly the best graphics from the 8 bit era, and the hardest to find today. You can't even find the ROM to emulate this game on the Internet.

jawallac

Yes, Duck Tales was AWESOME.

Good call! Duck Tales is awesome and DQ4 is the best game on the NES in my opinion. I cannot wait for the DS release of DQ 4/5 & 6!

I'm not familiar with many people whom have played Killer7.VGobbsesser

I enjoyed Killer 7, so much that I want get another Wii to try out their new game No More Heroes.

I'll add Guerilla War for NES. It was my favorite game to play on nintendo. I played through it several times.

On the same note, The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening is always missing in Zelda discussions. I've heard countless people rant on about the brilliance of A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, and whatever, yet they always fail to mention LA, which I consider to be one of the most well designed games in the franchise, and also the first killer action-adventure on a handheld platform. Yet so many Zelda fans ignore it so they have more space to gush over ALttP and OoT... *sigh*Bradleyo_XD

Link's Awakening is one Zelda I always mention, (to remind people it exists) it's one of my favourites.

I played the re-released the DX verison of it for the Gameboy Colour.

RIval Schools on the ps1

-Destruction Derby 64

-Snowboard Kids

-Snowboard Kids 2

-Stunt Racer 64

These are a few overlooked games on the N64, as well as some of my personal favorites.

*Quackshot Starring Donald Duck (Mega drive)
*Normy's Beach Babe-O-rama (Megadrive) I really loved this game, most people have never heard of it and if they do they seem to hate it :(
*D (3do,SS,PSone) & D2 (Sega Dreamcast)
*Shenmue (Dreamcast) though lots of people know it a huge amount of people have either never played or heard of this piece of video gaming treasure :(