Name franchises that have not been ruined with modernization/casualization.

Probably not Nintendo games since they are pretty good at staying close to their roots, usually. The only franchises I can think of that are still good that have not strayed too far are the Tales series, Mortal Kombat and Deus Ex. I know I may have missed a couple, so can you name more?

I will name franchises that have been ruined with modernization/casualization within the last gen:

Final Fantasy

Splinter Cell

Resident Evil

DmC

Castlevania

Tomb Raider (the most recent victim to modernization for casual gamers) 

The Donpachi series is a really good example of a franchise that improved over time through modernization.

This thread is stupid though.

The Donpachi series is a really good example of a franchise that improved over time through modernization.

This thread is stupid though.

ReddestSkies

Nope. 

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

The Donpachi series is a really good example of a franchise that improved over time through modernization.

This thread is stupid though.

soundcellx

Nope. 

How about looking it up instead of making a stupid post?

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

The Donpachi series is a really good example of a franchise that improved over time through modernization.

This thread is stupid though.

ReddestSkies

Nope. 

How about looking it up instead of making a stupid post?

I mean, you are the one naming a series that nobody has ever heard of.  

You Again ! Just cant shake the Nostalgia huh ? Its got you, its got you real bad.Lulekani

It has nothing to do with nostalgia. It has to do with current gen games lacking quality. 

Play Final Fantasy VII and then go play Final Fantasy XIII, and then tell me it's nostalgia. FFVII is infinitely superior over FFXIII. FFXIII took like 100 steps backwards and might have forever damaged the series. 

Quality (FF7) over crap (FF13), but there are many many many more examples where that came from. One more, for now. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conviction

 

How about you have valid reasons before calling anything stupid. Your posts are all stupid.

 

I mean, you are the one naming a series that nobody has ever heard of.  

soundcellx

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]
Never heard of it.

Nope. 

soundcellx

How about looking it up instead of making a stupid post?

I mean, you are the one naming a series that nobody has ever heard of.  

This is a list thread that will end up locked. I won't make an elaborate post in it. Google is your friend.

Probably not Nintendo games since they are pretty good at staying close to their roots, usually. The only franchises I can think of that are still good that have not strayed too far are the Tales series, Mortal Kombat and Deus Ex. I know I may have missed a couple, so can you name more?

I will name franchises that have been ruined with modernization/casualization within the last gen:

Final Fantasy

Splinter Cell

Resident Evil

DmC

Castlevania

Tomb Raider (the most recent victim to modernization for casual gamers) 

soundcellx

This is a list thread that will end up locked. I won't make an elaborate post in it. Google is your friend.

ReddestSkies

Since you are unable to enjoy today's modern games, you have to try to get everyone else to hate them too.

JustPlainLucas

Millions of other people feel the same way as me. You quit trying to get everyone else to love them. 

You're a jaded gamer that needs to stay off the internet and stay in your garage playing your old antiquated game systems.

JustPlainLucas

Yoshi's Island / Super Mario RPG / SMB3 / FF7 / Splinter Cell Chaos Theory / Xenogears / Donkey Kong Country trilogy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap like Call of Duty / Tomboy Raider / DmC / Gears / Halo / Re6 / RE5 / RE ORC and whatever popular games you new casual gamers love these days

Quit sullying up this forum.

JustPlainLucas

You sullied up my games, which is far worse. You bring current modern video game standards in quality back up first and then I will stop. 

:lol:

[QUOTE="soundcellx"] Every one of those franchises listed are far better than they have ever been, with the sole exception of Final Fantasy.GodModeEnabled

Splinter Cell being turned into a pewpew with no stealth

RE turned into a mindless dudebro QTE fest

DmC turned into the mess it is

Castlevania - Lords of Shadow and Mirror of Fate are not highly regarded. I miss IGAvania

Tomboy Raider - same as all current gen games. Oh and it's filled with QTEs and you can finish it in two days.

So no, none of those are nearly as good as previous ones. 

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

This is a list thread that will end up locked. I won't make an elaborate post in it. Google is your friend.

JustPlainLucas

You are the troll for rubbing it in that classic franchises are ruined and you support things like Tomb Raider being ruined, so that means you are the troll. 

You sullied up my games, which is far worse. You bring current modern video game standards in quality back up first and then I will stop. 

soundcellx

Nope because I follow the rules.

You are the troll for rubbing it in that classic franchises are ruined and you support things like Tomb Raider being ruined, so that means you are the troll. 

soundcellx

[QUOTE="soundcellx"] Keep it up and let's see who gets banned first.JustPlainLucas

What you do not get is I will stand up for what I believe in, no matter the consequence. Bringing back quality to video gaming is far more important than having an account on a VG message board. Hell, I post this kinds of stuff on the PlayStation Blog, Capcom Unity board, etc. because I am standing up for what is right, unlike you, so that makes you the bad guy.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

You sullied up my games, which is far worse. You bring current modern video game standards in quality back up first and then I will stop. 

JustPlainLucas

And sorry, when games become inferior than before, i refuse to embrace them. Hell, just look at the JRPG genre, all shot to hell.  

You talk about games being too easy but can't be F'ed to look up the Donpachi series. You're just a troll. If you actually wanted to find interesting, hard games, you would. Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu is harder than your favorite game, and it's on the 360.

Have fun finishing that casual game in two sittings. Too bad it doesn't present a challenge like the classic ones do. You and your QTEs, cutscenes, setpieces and linearity, oh and easy puzzles and easy platforming, I mean, games these days have to be so easy that even grandma can beat them!

Yes, gaming does not revolve around me, but it should revolve around me and the millions and millions of other people who feel the same way about gaming that I do.

 

And sorry, when games become inferior than before, i refuse to embrace them. Hell, just look at the JRPG genre, all shot to hell.  

 

soundcellx

I don't think Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, or Castlevania have been ruined at all. Personally I'd rank FFXIII and FFXIII-2, RE6, and LoS very high in their respective franchises. Loved the DmC demo and Tomb Raider looks awesome so I'll certainly get those and would say that those games haven't ruined anything.Archangel3371

Does Hallway Fantasy XIII even have gameplay?

Does Final Hallway XIII even count as an RPG, at all?

Does Final Fantasy XIII series even have anything Final Fantasy-esque in it? 

Wow, you're way in the minority with your opinions on DmC and RE5 / RE6 / RE ORC. Too bad that RE has been changed into pewpew and fighting unscary stupid majini ganados las plagas or whatever the hell they're called. Oh and RE6 is completely ruined by the gross abundance of QTEs. 

DmC is made by a very mediocre dev who have never made a good video game before, and never will. Only crap like Enslaved and Heavenly Sword. 

Tomboy Raider is full of QTEs and is watered down for new gamers. 

Some people just have terrible taste, but it is just something you will most likely have to live with for the rest of your life. 

You talk about games being too easy but can't be F'ed to look up the Donpachi series. You're just a troll. If you actually wanted to find interesting, hard games, you would. Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu is harder than your favorite game, and it's on the 360.

ReddestSkies

Already looked it up like 10 minutes ago. 

So it's a shmup. Oh and I do not pay attention to the console you mentioned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkZ8grT5Jr0

doesn't even care whether there are franchises undergo modernization or what,everything is the same as it was before. does JRPG evolved? not too much,they retain their old recipe,modern franchises like Disgaea does not need modernization or casualization,because it's both modern and casual also...

please be respectful and you'll be respected in return.

"doesn't even care whether there are franchises undergo modernization or what,everything is the same as it was before."

Yeah, no. 

[QUOTE="Smashbrossive50"]

does JRPG evolved? not too much,they retain their old recipe

Smashbrossive50

I see that you have never played an RPG before. If what you said was true, then I would find no problem finding good games in my favorite subgenre, turn based JRPGs, yet there is not a single proper turn based JRPG this gen, like Final Fantasy 7-10 or Xenogears, etc. You might want to state what you mean since turn based JRPGs are pretty much dead. The only good one in the last gen was Lost Odyssey. Hell, not even modern Final Fantasy is like Final Fantasy. So, please learn what you are talking about before putting in your literal 2 cents worth next time. 

not too much,they retain their old recipe,modern franchises like Disgaea does not need modernization or casualization,because it's both modern and casual also...

Smashbrossive50

please be respectful and you'll be respected in return.

Smashbrossive50

I have already been severely disrespected since my favorite types of games are dead (turn based JRPGs), and my favorite VG franchises have been ruined. 

I've had enough of this. All you do is attack everyone you see. We don't tolerate that sh*t. Now knock it off.