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#1 darkdude2k12
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Most games on the NES look terrible, the sound was ok, but it had the worst controller and didn't work after a while. This is essentially why Nintendo's gameboy was better and should be recognized as the real console (handheld) that the SNES improved upon. Not that annoying box with sh*t square controllers. It really annoys me to know there are so many NES fans, which only means they're really stupid and "setlle for sh*t" gamers to tolerate a failed console. Turbo Grafx was so much better.

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Turbografx is the better 8-bit console. I have to agree with you there. The NES is 1983 technology while the TG-16 is 1987 tech. The blue screen of Death on the NES does make me wonder how the NES did suceed. I at least gotten a top loaderversion.The NES controllers were terrible for all nighting. The NES did sell 62 million consoles from 1983-1994

Yes Turbografx is the best 8-bit console for grahics and sound, so you do have a point.

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I disagree. The NES was a great console. It is rather odd that some of the best platformers TO THIS DAY are on the console. I always felt the NES Mega Man games were leagues better than all that came after. Simple design, but fun and pure to this day.

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I disagree. The NES was a great console. It is rather odd that some of the best platformers TO THIS DAY are on the console. I always felt the NES Mega Man games were leagues better than all that came after. Simple design, but fun and pure to this day.

Heirren

It also had failed hardware, the worst controller ever, and was very easy to break. Once Turbo grafx came out the NES was off the radar being that all the 16 bit gods came afterwards. Btw, the nintendo gameboy was much better than the NES, both graphically and with hardware.

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not sure if srs. The NES had many games that still hold up to this day as classics.
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Just a few points I'd like to mention: 1 - NES brought gaming back from the death it had between 1983 and 1985 here in the US. Those "terrible looking games" were the standards for console gaming at that time - Many notable 1st and 3rd-party franchises that started on NES are still around today, and programmers do what they can with the technology they have available. 2 - Controllers stop working eventually. I actually brought some back with a fairly simple take-apart / clean black rubber pads with alcohol / put it back together fix. 3 - The d-pad was MUCH better and easier, for me, to use than the joystick standard set by Atari before it, though the circle/disc used by Intellivision wasn't bad. 4 - I was an NES fan from 1988 till around 1992 when I got my SNES (and by that time my NES 72-pin connector was useless). After a repair/cleaning of my original NES and all the games I still had (around 4 years ago) it literally gave me the same feeling I had all those years earlier. My Zapper even still worked on the SDTV it's plugged into. 5 - SNES didn't 'improve upon the gameboy' - it took a lot of gamers back to Nintendo who were, then, solely playing Sega Genesis or TG-16. GameBoy Color was the first Nintendo gaming-device to 'improve upon the gameboy'. 6 - With the mention of the TG-16 and 'failed console' in your same few sentences I'd say they fit together more than NES and failure. 7 - I'm still an NES fan as, with some inexpensive repairs, once again have a working system - the primary reason I stopped playing it. Yet, at the same time I've enjoyed SNES, N64, Sega Genesis, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, GameCube, Xbox, Xbox 360, Wii, PlayStation 3 and many different PC configurations that have allowed me to play my choice of any exclusives and/or multiplatform games that interest me. The way I feel is that games that were fun then can still be fun, there's always the option to move on, but why should you try to stop someone from doing so if they choose not to?
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not sure if srs. The NES had many games that still hold up to this day as classics. Allicrombie

I bashed the console...not it's games, simpleton. But since you're talking about it's games, other than Metroid, Zelda and Mario, there's really nothing left to play on NES. Just a ton of bad graphic'd games.

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Turbografx is the better 8-bit console. I have to agree with you there. The NES is 1983 technology while the TG-16 is 1987 tech. The blue screen of Death on the NES does make me wonder how the NES did suceed. I at least gotten a top loaderversion.The NES controllers were terrible for all nighting. The NES did sell 62 million consoles from 1983-1994

Yes Turbografx is the best 8-bit console for grahics and sound, so you do have a point.

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The Turbografx-16 had graphics and sound that were superior to the NES, it's just too bad it cost as much as it did and didn't have much support from developers. If all you care about is graphics, that's your choice, but in my case the franchises I was enjoying were on Nintendo systems. The "BSOD" was caused, usually, by the connector inside the console getting dirty and worn out from the repeated 'lock-down' of games. If you force small spring-type pins to be compressed for too long, they'll eventually stop springing back into shape.
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Just a few points I'd like to mention: 1 - NES brought gaming back from the death it had between 1983 and 1985 here in the US. Those "terrible looking games" were the standards for console gaming at that time - Many notable 1st and 3rd-party franchises that started on NES are still around today, and programmers do what they can with the technology they have available. 2 - Controllers stop working eventually. I actually brought some back with a fairly simple take-apart / clean black rubber pads with alcohol / put it back together fix. 3 - The d-pad was MUCH better and easier, for me, to use than the joystick standard set by Atari before it, though the circle/disc used by Intellivision wasn't bad. 4 - I was an NES fan from 1988 till around 1992 when I got my SNES (and by that time my NES 72-pin connector was useless). After a repair/cleaning of my original NES and all the games I still had (around 4 years ago) it literally gave me the same feeling I had all those years earlier. My Zapper even still worked on the SDTV it's plugged into. 5 - SNES didn't 'improve upon the gameboy' - it took a lot of gamers back to Nintendo who were, then, solely playing Sega Genesis or TG-16. GameBoy Color was the first Nintendo gaming-device to 'improve upon the gameboy'. 6 - With the mention of the TG-16 and 'failed console' in your same few sentences I'd say they fit together more than NES and failure. 7 - I'm still an NES fan as, with some inexpensive repairs, once again have a working system - the primary reason I stopped playing it. Yet, at the same time I've enjoyed SNES, N64, Sega Genesis, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, GameCube, Xbox, Xbox 360, Wii, PlayStation 3 and many different PC configurations that have allowed me to play my choice of any exclusives and/or multiplatform games that interest me. The way I feel is that games that were fun then can still be fun, there's always the option to move on, but why should you try to stop someone from doing so if they choose not to?Stinger78

Gee, you copy wikipedia much? Form your own opinion. You don't have to be a mindless follower like the rest of these GS nerds who fall to the power of suggestion when a "9.0 is given.

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The only tiny problem here is that the PC-Engine came out like 4 years after the Famicom. By that time it was pretty much irrelevant if it looked that much better. The Famicom had already done all that was set to do by then.

And fun fact #1 : Hudson were the first-ever third party supporter of the Famicom back then.

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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]not sure if srs. The NES had many games that still hold up to this day as classics. darkdude2k12

I bashed the console...not it's games, simpleton. But since you're talking about it's games, other than Metroid, Zelda and Mario, there's really nothing left to play on NES. Just a ton of bad graphic'd games.

Funny how fans of Mega Man were excited when 9 and 10 came out and looked almost identical to the ones from the NES. There are quite a few non-Nintendo 'names' that became popular from their NES games like: Capcom Hudson (a big supporter of the TG-16) Konami Rare Square Do you know any game franchises that people enjoy today because of those names?
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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]not sure if srs. The NES had many games that still hold up to this day as classics. darkdude2k12

I bashed the console...not it's games, simpleton. But since you're talking about it's games, other than Metroid, Zelda and Mario, there's really nothing left to play on NES. Just a ton of bad graphic'd games.

So the games were not a product of the console they were made for? What exactly do you have to gain by bashing anyone who doesn't troll the way you do?
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[QUOTE="Stinger78"]Just a few points I'd like to mention: 1 - NES brought gaming back from the death it had between 1983 and 1985 here in the US. Those "terrible looking games" were the standards for console gaming at that time - Many notable 1st and 3rd-party franchises that started on NES are still around today, and programmers do what they can with the technology they have available. 2 - Controllers stop working eventually. I actually brought some back with a fairly simple take-apart / clean black rubber pads with alcohol / put it back together fix. 3 - The d-pad was MUCH better and easier, for me, to use than the joystick standard set by Atari before it, though the circle/disc used by Intellivision wasn't bad. 4 - I was an NES fan from 1988 till around 1992 when I got my SNES (and by that time my NES 72-pin connector was useless). After a repair/cleaning of my original NES and all the games I still had (around 4 years ago) it literally gave me the same feeling I had all those years earlier. My Zapper even still worked on the SDTV it's plugged into. 5 - SNES didn't 'improve upon the gameboy' - it took a lot of gamers back to Nintendo who were, then, solely playing Sega Genesis or TG-16. GameBoy Color was the first Nintendo gaming-device to 'improve upon the gameboy'. 6 - With the mention of the TG-16 and 'failed console' in your same few sentences I'd say they fit together more than NES and failure. 7 - I'm still an NES fan as, with some inexpensive repairs, once again have a working system - the primary reason I stopped playing it. Yet, at the same time I've enjoyed SNES, N64, Sega Genesis, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, GameCube, Xbox, Xbox 360, Wii, PlayStation 3 and many different PC configurations that have allowed me to play my choice of any exclusives and/or multiplatform games that interest me. The way I feel is that games that were fun then can still be fun, there's always the option to move on, but why should you try to stop someone from doing so if they choose not to?darkdude2k12

Gee, you copy wikipedia much? Form your own opinion. You don't have to be a mindless follower like the rest of these GS nerds who fall to the power of suggestion when a "9.0 is given.

Copy Wikipedia? That's all personal memories and thoughts sitting here with at least 10 gaming consoles and almost 30 years of gaming memories, and a little experience with every single thing I mentioned. What are you talking about "when a 9.0 is given"? I'd probably be one of the first people to say I dislike "XXX" franchise or game that's the most popular with the majority of gamers, yet normally I keep it to myself. I like what I enjoy playing, I just don't feel a need to bash everything that doesn't appeal to me.
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Since when did Legacy Platforms become System Wars?
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Since when did Legacy Platforms become System Wars?Stinger78

Since, like always?

There's always a vs comparison thread, sometimes even two or three on the first page.

I don't see the point over arguing with people who's minds are already made in stone.

It's not like anyone's here is gonna change their minds about which legacy systems they like by now.

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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]not sure if srs. The NES had many games that still hold up to this day as classics. darkdude2k12

I bashed the console...not it's games, simpleton. But since you're talking about it's games, other than Metroid, Zelda and Mario, there's really nothing left to play on NES. Just a ton of bad graphic'd games.

I can name plenty of awesome games for the NES that don't have Mario, Metroid, or Zelda in their name:

  • Adventure Island 3
  • Batman
  • The Battle of Olympus
  • Bionic Commando
  • Castlevania 1-3
  • Contra
  • Crystalis
  • Gradius 1 & 2
  • LifeForce
  • Mega Man 1-6
  • Mike Tyson's Punch-Out
  • Star Soldier
  • Super C
  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 & 3
  • Tetris

Furthermore, you have to take the NES for what it was during the time period. Before the NES came out, the U.S. video game market was all but dead. The NES brought video games back to life again. Without them there wouldn't be any Sega, Playstation, or XBox today.

Another fact that you have to take in context of the time period is the controller. Before the NES, most controller were Joysticks. The D-Pad of the NES was very innovative and made for a greater degree of control than we had beforehand in home consoles.

In addition to that, a lot of the most popular franchises today started on the NES like Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong, The Legend of Zelda, Tetris, Contra, Castlevania, Mega Man, and others. The game library of the NES is fan-freaking-tastic.

One thing I can agree with the OP about is the hardware being bad. It was glitchy and touchy as heck, even back when they were new. Seems unacceptable since the Atari, Colecovision, Intellivision, and other consoles before it never had this issue. We all know it's because of the faulty design of the push-down method of starting the cartridges...so who let it go out that way and why did it take until the console was practically dead before they made a better model?

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Since when did Legacy Platforms become System Wars?Stinger78
Since darkdude2k12 decided to invade. This is not System Wars, but I'm starting to think he's only here to try and make it that. Honestly, we didn't think we'd need to make this clear, though my mind's certainly changed now.
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[QUOTE="Stinger78"]Since when did Legacy Platforms become System Wars?MAILER_DAEMON
Since darkdude2k12 decided to invade. This is not System Wars, but I'm starting to think he's only here to try and make it that. Honestly, we didn't think we'd need to make this clear, though my mind's certainly changed now.

True. He has made his point, everyone has read it, and I don't know why he continues being such a stuck-up.

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[QUOTE="Stinger78"]Since when did Legacy Platforms become System Wars?Panzer_Zwei

Since, like always?

There's always a vs comparison thread, sometimes even two or three on the first page.

I don't see the point over arguing with people who's minds are already made in stone.

It's not like anyone's here is gonna change their minds about which legacy systems they like by now.

I think its more of the sytle he choose to convey his opinion (your average run of the mill topic in system wars that was meant for the sole purpose of trolling).

I'll respond with no. The NES had a library of great games and some of them pushed the system to its limit (Journey to Silius for example).

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dude remember the nes was released in the early 1980s and it had great graphics for that time also would you rather have an nes or an atari 2600 i would say the nes

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dude remember the nes was released in the early 1980s and it had great graphics for that time also would you rather have an nes or an atari 2600 i would say the nes

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This as well.
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I disagree. The NES was a great console. It is rather odd that some of the best platformers TO THIS DAY are on the console. I always felt the NES Mega Man games were leagues better than all that came after. Simple design, but fun and pure to this day.

darkdude2k12

Btw, the nintendo gameboy was much better than the NES, both graphically and with hardware.

How are four shades of grey better than 48 colors and 6 greys? The only area where it was considerably better was the CPU speed. The original model (not Pocket) also had a terrible screen.

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You hate too many stuff, why don't you post about games you like instead of posting stuff you hate (that you just KNOW people here love) Anyway, I agree with the NES controller being fragile, although other than that I find it great, I love the simplicity of it, great to hold, and your fingers reach all the (few) buttons easily. And you don't seem to have ever played NES, or not for long at least, to say the only good titles are Metroid and Zelda. Other than the obvious (Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros 3, Metroid, Legend of Zelda), we have: Double Dragon II Castlvania I-III (although I did KINDA like Castlevania II, although I never finished it due to being almost impossible to know what to do) Megaman Ultima Exodus III Ghost n' Goblins (really challenging) Duck Hunt (was pretty good for the time to have an arcade styIe shooter at home) Ninja Gaiden II Renegade Festers Quest (also challenging) Legendary Wings Batman The Video Game Contra Final Fantasy And those are just a few that I have in my collection, I'm sure they're more I don't know of. And seriously, saying the NES has no good games (other than the big titles, as you said) is as bad as me saying the GC has no good games.
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Since you seem to think the gameboy had better graphics Im going to assume you are still pretty young and are comparing the nes to a GB Colour? I personally had more fun back as a kid with my Master System but to say the NES sucked is just trolling.

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hmmm... I thought the NES had amazing graphics when I saw Super Mario Bros for the first time (compared to the Atari 2600 anyway.)

Got to agree with the controller though. I had painful blisters and sores on the inside of both my index fingers where the sharp corners of the controller dug in.

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Most games on the NES look terrible, the sound was ok, but it had the worst controller and didn't work after a while. This is essentially why Nintendo's gameboy was better and should be recognized as the real console (handheld) that the SNES improved upon. Not that annoying box with sh*t square controllers. It really annoys me to know there are so many NES fans, which only means they're really stupid and "setlle for sh*t" gamers to tolerate a failed console. Turbo Grafx was so much better.

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that's like saying well the amiga was much better than the atari 2600. yeah no **** sherlock. the system was released like 5 years afterwards. it's called technology and it advances :roll:

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I disagree. The NES was a great console. It is rather odd that some of the best platformers TO THIS DAY are on the console. I always felt the NES Mega Man games were leagues better than all that came after. Simple design, but fun and pure to this day.

darkdude2k12

It also had failed hardware, the worst controller ever, and was very easy to break. Once Turbo grafx came out the NES was off the radar being that all the 16 bit gods came afterwards. Btw, the nintendo gameboy was much better than the NES, both graphically and with hardware.

yeah the gameboy was much better than nes graphically. man go troll somewhere else :roll:

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Most games on the NES look terrible, the sound was ok, but it had the worst controller and didn't work after a while. This is essentially why Nintendo's gameboy was better and should be recognized as the real console (handheld) that the SNES improved upon. Not that annoying box with sh*t square controllers. It really annoys me to know there are so many NES fans, which only means they're really stupid and "setlle for sh*t" gamers to tolerate a failed console. Turbo Grafx was so much better.

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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]not sure if srs. The NES had many games that still hold up to this day as classics. darkdude2k12

I bashed the console...not it's games, simpleton. But since you're talking about it's games, other than Metroid, Zelda and Mario, there's really nothing left to play on NES. Just a ton of bad graphic'd games.

First words in the topic creator's original post- "Most games on the NES look terrible"

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It was the 1980s, what'd this guy expect?
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It was the 1980s, what'd this guy expect?Los9090
He wanted it to have the so much superior graphics of the Nintendo GameBoy
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dude remember the nes was released in the early 1980s and it had great graphics for that time also would you rather have an nes or an atari 2600 i would say the nes

pspman1997

Atari was a failed console as well, but at least it had the excuse of being ancient tech to back it up. Lots of Atari games are classics. Nintendo was the worst with NES. I'm sorry, but you're letting nostalgia speak for you.

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[QUOTE="pspman1997"]

dude remember the nes was released in the early 1980s and it had great graphics for that time also would you rather have an nes or an atari 2600 i would say the nes

darkdude2k12

Atari was a failed console as well, but at least it had the excuse of being ancient tech to back it up. Lots of Atari games are classics. Nintendo was the worst with NES. I'm sorry, but you're letting nostalgia speak for you.

Or maybe you're letting your intolerance for dated graphics speak for yourself.
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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

[QUOTE="pspman1997"]

dude remember the nes was released in the early 1980s and it had great graphics for that time also would you rather have an nes or an atari 2600 i would say the nes

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Atari was a failed console as well, but at least it had the excuse of being ancient tech to back it up. Lots of Atari games are classics. Nintendo was the worst with NES. I'm sorry, but you're letting nostalgia speak for you.

Or maybe you're letting your intolerance for dated graphics speak for yourself.

No. I'm just fine with consoles like the SNES/Genesis/Neo Geo/Saturn/Ps1/Gameboy/Turbo Grafx and PS2. I've pretty much named all the relevant inferior graphic'd consoles and essentially are leaving out the N64 being that it had unspeakably horrible graphics. Bollocks! Sorry to news flash you, but a game with better graphics and good gameplay is always gonna be better than an ugly game with good gameplay. The NES had the ugliest sprites to date. With that said, I will say that Metroid and Zelda looked the best on the console. But there aren't any other NES titles that push the envelope. So much for it "bringing the VG market out the ugly age and reviving anything". Bollocks! A infant's scribble is superior to most NES games and Atari as well.

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#38 darkdude2k12
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I retract the statement that SNES/GENESIS/NEO GEO were ugly in any way. They were graphically fantastic.

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#39 JuarN18
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The NES had the ugliest sprites to date.darkdude2k12
. With that said, I will say that Metroid and Zelda looked the best on the console. But there aren't any other NES titles that push the envelope darkdude2k12
and this thread jumps the shark
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#40 Dudersaper
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a game with better graphics and good gameplay is always gonna be better than an ugly game with good gameplay. darkdude2k12
I couldn't agree more, but being better doesn't make the other one BAD. Of course there are tons of games with good gameplay and better visuals than the NES games, but that doesn't make the NES bad at all. You're basically saying "It's bad because there's better stuff out there", yet that mentality is more than wrong. And still, you seem to not take in the fact that the NES is from the 1980's, and the SNES/Genesis/NeoGeo all came about 5 or 6 years later. Of course it's gonna look like crap compared to them.
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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]The NES had the ugliest sprites to date.JuarN18
. With that said, I will say that Metroid and Zelda looked the best on the console. But there aren't any other NES titles that push the envelope darkdude2k12
and this thread jumps the shark

Yep. Then he went to Burger King.