Neverwinter Nights

Yes I am a huge huge fan of the original NWN. Infact I have played it on somewhat of a regular basis since its release eight years ago way back in 2002. In another thread I have discovered other fans of this overlooked, but very ingenious and unique rpg. What I love about NWN is it can be played in so many different ways that it goes beyond being just a game. You can play it from a hack and slash, to having a deep complex story based game, to PVP, or RPing with friends in mp, or even having a Dungeon master guide you. Who else plays this game, and personally I think its a better game than NWN 2. Any other NWN fans around here?

Right here. I've played it through quite a few times now. Great game. And it is indeed better than it's sequel.

I grabbed it off of gog.com, but I've yet to play it. I was trying to school myself in the ways of the WRPG since I really haven't played many. Starting from the oooooooold school and working my way up. I really have to kick this chronological thing I do lol.

I played Neverwinter Nights as the natural progression from Baldurs Gate and Torment. All three were fantastic experiences. I still need to play the sequels to BG and NWN, even if the latter is inferior. I would love to see another TSR themed game from Obsidian sometime in the future. Second_Rook

I disagree that NWN is inferior as that it is different. The thing with NWN is that while BG may have imo a better made singleplayer experience, NWN has the many mods and other such to make it more of a expansive experience. Comparing one to the other is well, not easy due to the strange nature that is NWN.

actually, Biowares Neverwinter nights was the second game in the series. With that Said, I love the NWN series, my favourite ones are Neverwinter: Hordes of the Underdark and Neverwinter nights 2: Mask of the Betrayerohthemanatee

Its not the second in the series, its the second game to share that title. The first game to bear the Neverinter Nights Title was actually the first MMORPG, and ran in AOL back in the early days. It does share the same setting, but it is not part of the series that Bioware Started. The Bioware and Obsidian games are quite different from the original as that they were quite different beasts than this game. If anything the First NWN game had more in common with the Gold box games than it does with the later NWN. To put it correctly the Original NWN is part of the Gold Box games, and not part of the Bioware/Obsidian games, as they play differently and that they are completely different games. Infact the original NWN is not considered part of the Bioware/Obsidian games.

Its not the second in the series, its the second game to share that title. The first game to bear the Neverinter Nights Title was actually the first MMORPG, and ran in AOL back in the early days. It does share the same setting, but it is not part of the series that Bioware Started.TheTrueMagusX1

yeah, should've said setting, instead of series

The Bioware and Obsidian games are quite different from the original as that they were quite different beasts than this game. If anything the First NWN game had more in common with the Gold box games than it does with the later NWN. To put it correctly the Original NWN is part of the Gold Box games, and not part of the Bioware/Obsidian games, as they play differently and that they are completely different games. Infact the original NWN is not considered part of the Bioware/Obsidian games.

TheTrueMagusX1

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

Its not the second in the series, its the second game to share that title. The first game to bear the Neverinter Nights Title was actually the first MMORPG, and ran in AOL back in the early days. It does share the same setting, but it is not part of the series that Bioware Started.ohthemanatee

yeah, should've said setting, instead of series

The Bioware and Obsidian games are quite different from the original as that they were quite different beasts than this game. If anything the First NWN game had more in common with the Gold box games than it does with the later NWN. To put it correctly the Original NWN is part of the Gold Box games, and not part of the Bioware/Obsidian games, as they play differently and that they are completely different games. Infact the original NWN is not considered part of the Bioware/Obsidian games.

TheTrueMagusX1

Yeah I am in the same boat you are. Now I have played gold box games like The Dark Queen of Krynn but never the orignal Neverwinter Nights. I heard some years ago there was a revival of it somehwere, but not sure. I also heard the samething you were saying about creating characters and not saving them and what not as well. Maybe in this revival they fixed that??

I hope they did, as for me I'm currently playing pool of radiance, I recently bought the forgotten realms gamefest, which a compilation disc with 12 D&D games from the 80's and early 90's :Dohthemanatee

Nice, I have not played those gold box games in years. This Forgotten Realms Gamefest is it pretty hard to find or is something that was released recently? I would like to get that.

I'll certainly play NWN eventually, but right now I'm busy with the BG games. I also have NWN2 off the Steam sale, so I'll probably end up playing that first since I hear it has a better single-player campaign.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I hope they did, as for me I'm currently playing pool of radiance, I recently bought the forgotten realms gamefest, which a compilation disc with 12 D&D games from the 80's and early 90's :DTheTrueMagusX1

Nice, I have not played those gold box games in years. This Forgotten Realms Gamefest is it pretty hard to find or is something that was released recently? I would like to get that.

if you live in the US it's both easy and cheap

if you live in Europe (like me) your best bet is an internacional seller at ebay, which unfortunantly means that the price will be jacked up a bit

EDIT: just checked, the cheapest fully packed version I could find on ebay costs three times as much the Amazon price :o

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I hope they did, as for me I'm currently playing pool of radiance, I recently bought the forgotten realms gamefest, which a compilation disc with 12 D&D games from the 80's and early 90's :Dohthemanatee

Nice, I have not played those gold box games in years. This Forgotten Realms Gamefest is it pretty hard to find or is something that was released recently? I would like to get that.

if you live in the US it's both easy and cheap

if you live in Europe (like me) your best bet is an internacional seller at ebay, which unfortunantly means that the price will be jacked up a bit

EDIT: just checked, the cheapest fully packed version I could find on ebay costs three times as much the Amazon price :o

Nice well I am in the US so this should not be a problem for me to get. Thanks for the info, though do you have compatibility issues running these cause I am running Windows 7 and I know older games such as those can have trouble being ran in this version of Windows.

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[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

Nice, I have not played those gold box games in years. This Forgotten Realms Gamefest is it pretty hard to find or is something that was released recently? I would like to get that.

TheTrueMagusX1

if you live in the US it's both easy and cheap

if you live in Europe (like me) your best bet is an internacional seller at ebay, which unfortunantly means that the price will be jacked up a bit

EDIT: just checked, the cheapest fully packed version I could find on ebay costs three times as much the Amazon price :o

Nice well I am in the US so this should not be a problem for me to get. Thanks for the info, though do you have compatibility issues running these cause I am running Windows 7 and I know older games such as those can have trouble being ran in this version of Windows.

dos-box is mandatory for these things

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

if you live in the US it's both easy and cheap

if you live in Europe (like me) your best bet is an internacional seller at ebay, which unfortunantly means that the price will be jacked up a bit

EDIT: just checked, the cheapest fully packed version I could find on ebay costs three times as much the Amazon price :o

ohthemanatee

Nice well I am in the US so this should not be a problem for me to get. Thanks for the info, though do you have compatibility issues running these cause I am running Windows 7 and I know older games such as those can have trouble being ran in this version of Windows.

dos-box is mandatory for these things

Dos Box and I are old friends so that should not be a problem. Thanks for the heads up!!!

I couldn't get into it. I did get into other Biowares such as Jade Empire and KOTOR, but not NWN. I do know that NWN has a lot more depth than those other two... so maybe I'm just shallow :x :(

I couldn't get into it. I did get into other Biowares such as Jade Empire and KOTOR, but not NWN. I do know that NWN has a lot more depth than those other two... so maybe I'm just shallow :x :(

flipin_jackass

No your not Shallow in the least. You just like different games, and the ironic thing too is that the Original KOTOR uses the same D20 system as NWN does as well. NWN is one of my fave games of all time, but I respect your opinion, and your not shallow. Jade Empire I will say is a shallower game, but not KOTOR.

Never liked Nerver Winter Nights.

I was a big fan of Blackilse/Bioware PC RPG line, so I bought the game when it came out even though I didn't had a PC that could run it optimally back then. When I finally was able to run the game right I was very disappointed. The story was terrible, items and clothing looked awful and the game used the same generic portraits over and over for most of the NPCs, it would have been better not to use portraits at all.

I guess back then the gameplay was fine because the game used the new rule sets whereas Baldur's Gate II and the rest used the old more confined ones.

I remember Icewind Dale II came out also around that time, using the new rulesets too. That was a much better game, in my opinion.

Never liked Nerver Winter Nights.

I was a big fan of Blackilse/Bioware PC RPG line, so I bought the game when it came out even though I didn't had a PC that could run it optimally back then. When I finally was able to run the game right I was very disappointed. The story was terrible, items and clothing looked awful and the game used the same generic portraits over and over for most of the NPCs, it would have been better not to use portraits at all.

I guess back then the gameplay was fine because the game used the new rule sets whereas Baldur's Gate II and the rest used the old more confined ones.

I remember Icewind Dale II came out also around that time, using the new rulesets too. That was a much better game, in my opinion.

Panzer_Zwei

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

I'm surprised that people seemed to prefer the first NWN over the second. I'll admit the online modes for the first one were better, but overall I like NWN 2 better then the first, specially the Mask of the Betrayer Expansionohthemanatee

There is no doubt that the NWN 2 had better campaigns than the one that came pack. Mask of the Betrayer was imo just pure awesome, however what made the game better was the massive online components. Playing online in campaigns or persistant worlds were awesome, and there are just some pure gems in the original NWN Mod Library. Thats why I like it much much better than NWN 2, though it has excellent campaigns.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Never liked Nerver Winter Nights.

I was a big fan of Blackilse/Bioware PC RPG line, so I bought the game when it came out even though I didn't had a PC that could run it optimally back then. When I finally was able to run the game right I was very disappointed. The story was terrible, items and clothing looked awful and the game used the same generic portraits over and over for most of the NPCs, it would have been better not to use portraits at all.

I guess back then the gameplay was fine because the game used the new rule sets whereas Baldur's Gate II and the rest used the old more confined ones.

I remember Icewind Dale II came out also around that time, using the new rulesets too. That was a much better game, in my opinion.

TheTrueMagusX1

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

Well I did played the game online of course, hell I only played the game online actually, but mainly the main campaign.I also have Shadows of Undrentine too, but for some reason I never even opened it.

There were already fan modules around when I played the game, although I guess not as much as there were later on. I played a few, but I don't remember which ones.

I also remember Bioware used some kobolds to mock the fans that wanted to have robes in the game. But seriously, wizards looked like clowns in the game, what did they expect? Armor/Clothing design has always been their weakness. It's the same thing still in Dragon Age, they look (mage robes) completly awful, and light armor all are just palette swaps of the same models.

Still, I have to admit the game did a terrific job at handling the D&D cla$$es. Even nowadays games do not compare. Dragon Age for example, was extremelly mainstreamed, and the Cl$$es are fewer and nowhere near as fleshed out. It's still a great game though, but Bioware obviously tried to make it as appealing to the masses as possible, unlike their old works.

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Never liked Nerver Winter Nights.

I was a big fan of Blackilse/Bioware PC RPG line, so I bought the game when it came out even though I didn't had a PC that could run it optimally back then. When I finally was able to run the game right I was very disappointed. The story was terrible, items and clothing looked awful and the game used the same generic portraits over and over for most of the NPCs, it would have been better not to use portraits at all.

I guess back then the gameplay was fine because the game used the new rule sets whereas Baldur's Gate II and the rest used the old more confined ones.

I remember Icewind Dale II came out also around that time, using the new rulesets too. That was a much better game, in my opinion.

Panzer_Zwei

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

Well I did played the game online of course, hell I only played the game online actually, but mainly the main campaign.I also have Shadows of Undrentine too, but for some reason I never even opened it.

There were already fan modules around when I played the game, although I guess not as much as there were later on. I played a few, but I don't remember which ones.

I also remember Bioware used some kobolds to mock the fans that wanted to have robes in the game. But seriously, wizards looked like clowns in the game, what did they expect? Armor/Clothing design has always been their weakness. It's the same thing still in Dragon Age, they look (mage robes) completly awful, and light armor all are just palette swaps of the same models.

Still, I have to admit the game did a terrific job at handling the D&D cla$$es. Even nowadays games do not compare. Dragon Age for example, was extremelly mainstreamed, and the Cl$$es are fewer and nowhere near as fleshed out. It's still a great game though, but Bioware obviously tried to make it as appealing to the masses as possible, unlike their old works.

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Never liked Nerver Winter Nights.

I was a big fan of Blackilse/Bioware PC RPG line, so I bought the game when it came out even though I didn't had a PC that could run it optimally back then. When I finally was able to run the game right I was very disappointed. The story was terrible, items and clothing looked awful and the game used the same generic portraits over and over for most of the NPCs, it would have been better not to use portraits at all.

I guess back then the gameplay was fine because the game used the new rule sets whereas Baldur's Gate II and the rest used the old more confined ones.

I remember Icewind Dale II came out also around that time, using the new rulesets too. That was a much better game, in my opinion.

Panzer_Zwei

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

Well I did played the game online of course, hell I only played the game online actually, but mainly the main campaign.I also have Shadows of Undrentine too, but for some reason I never even opened it.

There were already fan modules around when I played the game, although I guess not as much as there were later on. I played a few, but I don't remember which ones.

I also remember Bioware used some kobolds to mock the fans that wanted to have robes in the game. But seriously, wizards looked like clowns in the game, what did they expect? Armor/Clothing design has always been their weakness. It's the same thing still in Dragon Age, they look (mage robes) completly awful, and light armor all are just palette swaps of the same models.

Still, I have to admit the game did a terrific job at handling the D&D cla$$es. Even nowadays games do not compare. Dragon Age for example, was extremelly mainstreamed, and the Cl$$es are fewer and nowhere near as fleshed out. It's still a great game though, but Bioware obviously tried to make it as appealing to the masses as possible, unlike their old works.

I donot if its a mainstream game per se. Thats just me, you are right they did an excellent job of intergrating the clasees in the game. If you ever do happen to give it a second chance, I will direct you to some of the best of the fan made modules!

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

ohthemanatee

Well I did played the game online of course, hell I only played the game online actually, but mainly the main campaign.I also have Shadows of Undrentine too, but for some reason I never even opened it.

There were already fan modules around when I played the game, although I guess not as much as there were later on. I played a few, but I don't remember which ones.

I also remember Bioware used some kobolds to mock the fans that wanted to have robes in the game. But seriously, wizards looked like clowns in the game, what did they expect? Armor/Clothing design has always been their weakness. It's the same thing still in Dragon Age, they look (mage robes) completly awful, and light armor all are just palette swaps of the same models.

Still, I have to admit the game did a terrific job at handling the D&D cla$$es. Even nowadays games do not compare. Dragon Age for example, was extremelly mainstreamed, and the Cl$$es are fewer and nowhere near as fleshed out. It's still a great game though, but Bioware obviously tried to make it as appealing to the masses as possible, unlike their old works.

Hordes of the Underdark is just fantastic. It has alot of replay to it, and its a great epic module, that really fleshes out what NWN is really about. Mask of the Betrayer for NWn 2 is awesome as well. As for other good original NWN modules, I would also reccomend another module that Bioware created called Kingmaker, which is odd, and brilliant at the same time!

I heard good things about kingmaker, but sadly never played itohthemanatee

I tried playing with it and just got too dang confused and frustated at everything. But I keep it installed so I can play other people's creations.

I heard good things about kingmaker, but sadly never played itohthemanatee

If you do its well worth it. It is such a quirky and strange game though that its got alot of heart and charm to it.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I heard good things about kingmaker, but sadly never played itTheTrueMagusX1

If you do its well worth it. It is such a quirky and strange game though that its got alot of heart and charm to it.

Wait, isn't Kingmaker the game creator part of the Diamond package?

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I heard good things about kingmaker, but sadly never played itEmerald_Warrior

If you do its well worth it. It is such a quirky and strange game though that its got alot of heart and charm to it.

Wait, isn't Kingmaker the game creator part of the Diamond package?

Nope, Kingmaker is a whole Singleplayer Campaign made by Bioware. It is part of the Diamond package, but it is a campaign with its own story and what not. The game creator in NWN comes with the core game and not just Diamond or the Expansions. The Creator is called the Aurora Toolset.

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[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

TheTrueMagusX1

Well I did played the game online of course, hell I only played the game online actually, but mainly the main campaign.I also have Shadows of Undrentine too, but for some reason I never even opened it.

There were already fan modules around when I played the game, although I guess not as much as there were later on. I played a few, but I don't remember which ones.

I also remember Bioware used some kobolds to mock the fans that wanted to have robes in the game. But seriously, wizards looked like clowns in the game, what did they expect? Armor/Clothing design has always been their weakness. It's the same thing still in Dragon Age, they look (mage robes) completly awful, and light armor all are just palette swaps of the same models.

Still, I have to admit the game did a terrific job at handling the D&D cla$$es. Even nowadays games do not compare. Dragon Age for example, was extremelly mainstreamed, and the Cl$$es are fewer and nowhere near as fleshed out. It's still a great game though, but Bioware obviously tried to make it as appealing to the masses as possible, unlike their old works.

I donot if its a mainstream game per se. Thats just me, you are right they did an excellent job of intergrating the clasees in the game. If you ever do happen to give it a second chance, I will direct you to some of the best of the fan made modules!

Rangers and Cleric cla$$es were extremelly well developed in Never Winter Nights and Icewind Dale II.

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Well I did played the game online of course, hell I only played the game online actually, but mainly the main campaign.I also have Shadows of Undrentine too, but for some reason I never even opened it.

There were already fan modules around when I played the game, although I guess not as much as there were later on. I played a few, but I don't remember which ones.

I also remember Bioware used some kobolds to mock the fans that wanted to have robes in the game. But seriously, wizards looked like clowns in the game, what did they expect? Armor/Clothing design has always been their weakness. It's the same thing still in Dragon Age, they look (mage robes) completly awful, and light armor all are just palette swaps of the same models.

Still, I have to admit the game did a terrific job at handling the D&D cla$$es. Even nowadays games do not compare. Dragon Age for example, was extremelly mainstreamed, and the Cl$$es are fewer and nowhere near as fleshed out. It's still a great game though, but Bioware obviously tried to make it as appealing to the masses as possible, unlike their old works.

Panzer_Zwei

I donot if its a mainstream game per se. Thats just me, you are right they did an excellent job of intergrating the clasees in the game. If you ever do happen to give it a second chance, I will direct you to some of the best of the fan made modules!

Rangers and Cleric cla$$es were extremelly well developed in Never Winter Nights and Icewind Dale II.

I see, yeah your right about it. I liked DAO but I agree I prefer NWN and Icewind Dale over that game though!

I disagree that NWN is inferior as that it is different. The thing with NWN is that while BG may have imo a better made singleplayer experience, NWN has the many mods and other such to make it more of a expansive experience. Comparing one to the other is well, not easy due to the strange nature that is NWN.

TheTrueMagusX1

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]I disagree that NWN is inferior as that it is different. The thing with NWN is that while BG may have imo a better made singleplayer experience, NWN has the many mods and other such to make it more of a expansive experience. Comparing one to the other is well, not easy due to the strange nature that is NWN.

Second_Rook

Yep I did say that....and I still mean that. If you actually read my other posts you will understand why I said that and still stand by it. NWN Is not just about the Campaigns, if you know what they were, than you would understand my comments. I am talking about campaigns not the overall games. So I suggest you actually read what I mean...we were talking about the campaigns, which donot account to the majority of the experience of the game. So again reread the posts.....

Yep I did say that....and I still mean that. If you actually read my other posts you will understand why I said that and still stand by it. NWN Is not just about the Campaigns, if you know what they were, than you would understand my comments. I am talking about campaigns not the overall games. So I suggest you actually read what I mean...we were talking about the campaigns, which donot account to the majority of the experience of the game. So again reread the posts.....

TheTrueMagusX1

Neverwinter Nights is probably my all-time favorite RPG, I've played through it several times, and spent lots of time messing with the Aurora toolkit. The DM client was fun when I was 12 too, I used to go on my own little private server and have huge battles. XD

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]Yep I did say that....and I still mean that. If you actually read my other posts you will understand why I said that and still stand by it. NWN Is not just about the Campaigns, if you know what they were, than you would understand my comments. I am talking about campaigns not the overall games. So I suggest you actually read what I mean...we were talking about the campaigns, which donot account to the majority of the experience of the game. So again reread the posts.....

Second_Rook

Yes I did, you did questioned my statements about the game for no apparent reason where as they were clearly there. And if anyone is taking these forums seriously is not I, it is you good sir, as it is obvious you are upset....not I. I simply addressed your question and you took offense.

Neverwinter Nights is probably my all-time favorite RPG, I've played through it several times, and spent lots of time messing with the Aurora toolkit. The DM client was fun when I was 12 too, I used to go on my own little private server and have huge battles. XD

enix165

Do you happen to still play the game and the mods and what not?

[QUOTE="enix165"]

Neverwinter Nights is probably my all-time favorite RPG, I've played through it several times, and spent lots of time messing with the Aurora toolkit. The DM client was fun when I was 12 too, I used to go on my own little private server and have huge battles. XD

Do you happen to still play the game and the mods and what not?

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

[QUOTE="enix165"]

Neverwinter Nights is probably my all-time favorite RPG, I've played through it several times, and spent lots of time messing with the Aurora toolkit. The DM client was fun when I was 12 too, I used to go on my own little private server and have huge battles. XD

enix165

Do you happen to still play the game and the mods and what not?

That would be sweet, and happy early birthday. Just curious what version of the game did you have? Dimaond? Platinum? Or just the regular game with no expansions or it with expansions?

[QUOTE="enix165"][QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

Do you happen to still play the game and the mods and what not?

That would be sweet, and happy early birthday. Just curious what version of the game did you have? Dimaond? Platinum? Or just the regular game with no expansions or it with expansions?

Nice, to see others on this board that hold NWN in high praise. Wish I had gotten in on this conversation sooner but I've been away :P Something about NWN keeps me coming back and I enjoy it above all other Bioware games. It's a sort of charm that the game has that other Bioware games and RPGs in general don't have. Oh and I love the portraits in this game so much, so well done and full of color. I've spent the better part of an hour just browsing around the portraits for a brand new character.AcidSoldner

Nice, and I am just curiosu what are your favorite mods? Do you enjoy the Penultima Series, both the original and rerolled games? Or Lone Wolf(Which sadly was not finished).

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[QUOTE="enix165"] I would if I could find my copy of the game. I've got the urge to play it now, and I'm getting a lappy tomorrow(my 16th birthday. =D), so I'mma look for it tonight and install it tomorrow. XDenix165

That would be sweet, and happy early birthday. Just curious what version of the game did you have? Dimaond? Platinum? Or just the regular game with no expansions or it with expansions?

Diamond Nice!! If you do wnat to play let me know in a PM. And by the way, there is the community Expansion pack you should look into getting too.

[QUOTE="enix165"][QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

That would be sweet, and happy early birthday. Just curious what version of the game did you have? Dimaond? Platinum? Or just the regular game with no expansions or it with expansions?

TheTrueMagusX1

Diamond Nice!! If you do wnat to play let me know in a PM. And by the way, there is the community Expansion pack you should look into getting too.

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

[QUOTE="enix165"] Thanks, haha! And I had the one with both expansions and the Kingmaker modules, Diamond I'm pretty sure.AcidSoldner

Diamond Nice!! If you do wnat to play let me know in a PM. And by the way, there is the community Expansion pack you should look into getting too.

The Communuity expansion pack is downloadable....here is the link. It is an amazing pack of items provided featuring everything from monsters to different skins and many new tile sets. New clothing packs are available in the pack and its just awesome. There is so much more but download and play around with it in the tool set. Plus they have an installer version that makes it easier to install so you donot have to manually put everything in the hack folders and what not as well.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Never liked Nerver Winter Nights.

I was a big fan of Blackilse/Bioware PC RPG line, so I bought the game when it came out even though I didn't had a PC that could run it optimally back then. When I finally was able to run the game right I was very disappointed. The story was terrible, items and clothing looked awful and the game used the same generic portraits over and over for most of the NPCs, it would have been better not to use portraits at all.

I guess back then the gameplay was fine because the game used the new rule sets whereas Baldur's Gate II and the rest used the old more confined ones.

I remember Icewind Dale II came out also around that time, using the new rulesets too. That was a much better game, in my opinion.

TheTrueMagusX1

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

You guys think it has a poor single-player experience? Really? A game that has multiple chapters, with each chapter having a ton of quests and areas. So much to explore. So many items and equipment to find. So many NPCs to interact with. And a TON of different creatures and enemies to battle. The total time playing is dozens of hours. It's story covers it all, world threatening plague, conspiracy in the kingdom, betrayal, and war; along with the normal thieves, evil mages, goblins, and dragons. And the great feeling of watching your character go from barely battle-ready to godly is quite satisfying.

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Never liked Nerver Winter Nights.

I was a big fan of Blackilse/Bioware PC RPG line, so I bought the game when it came out even though I didn't had a PC that could run it optimally back then. When I finally was able to run the game right I was very disappointed. The story was terrible, items and clothing looked awful and the game used the same generic portraits over and over for most of the NPCs, it would have been better not to use portraits at all.

I guess back then the gameplay was fine because the game used the new rule sets whereas Baldur's Gate II and the rest used the old more confined ones.

I remember Icewind Dale II came out also around that time, using the new rulesets too. That was a much better game, in my opinion.

Emerald_Warrior

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

You guys think it has a poor single-player experience? Really? A game that has multiple chapters, with each chapter having a ton of quests and areas. So much to explore. So many items and equipment to find. So many NPCs to interact with. And a TON of different creatures and enemies to battle. The total time playing is dozens of hours. It's story covers it all, world threatening plague, conspiracy in the kingdom, betrayal, and war; along with the normal thieves, evil mages, goblins, and dragons. And the great feeling of watching your character go from barely battle-ready to godly is quite satisfying.

I actually donot think its the best experience. Just compared to the many mods I platyed with the game I find them to be alot better and even the Expansions rock. I think the definitive bioware experiences for NWN are both Hordes of the Underdark and KingMaker. Not sure if you played them but if you loved the original Campaign you would love those two.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="TheTrueMagusX1"]

Well I see your point. I do agree in terms of say Baldurs Gate 2 and Ice WindDale, they do have better Campaigns than the one that shipped with NWN. Infact it is confession time as I never beat the main campaign of NWN. And I have tried, I just cannot get into it, but the reason I hold the game in high regard is because the Campaign felt like an after thought to the well made online components that the game came with.It was the online community which surprisingly is still active to this day that made the game come alive. I enjoyed the fan made Modules like Penultima and others that had better stories and better made gameplay than the monotnous design that the orignal NWN had in it. The fan based expanded so much that you had everything from tons and tons of new portraits, to the community expansion pack, the DMFI, and than Biowares own expansions were far better than the original Campaign. Shadows of Undertide was ok, but it was the next two expansions Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker that the Bioware we know and love really shined. To me it was the online components and community that really made this game a gem! Thats just me but it is good to know that IceWind Dale is not forgotten. Those two games are often overshadowed by BG which I adore, but the two Icewind Dale games were just awesome!

TheTrueMagusX1

You guys think it has a poor single-player experience? Really? A game that has multiple chapters, with each chapter having a ton of quests and areas. So much to explore. So many items and equipment to find. So many NPCs to interact with. And a TON of different creatures and enemies to battle. The total time playing is dozens of hours. It's story covers it all, world threatening plague, conspiracy in the kingdom, betrayal, and war; along with the normal thieves, evil mages, goblins, and dragons. And the great feeling of watching your character go from barely battle-ready to godly is quite satisfying.

I actually donot think its the best experience. Just compared to the many mods I platyed with the game I find them to be alot better and even the Expansions rock. I think the definitive bioware experiences for NWN are both Hordes of the Underdark and KingMaker. Not sure if you played them but if you loved the original Campaign you would love those two.

KingMaker is the one where you get that annoying Kobold as a sidekick, huh? Yeah, I thought the main campaign was far better. But Hordes of the Underdark was indeed awesome. That was much better than the main campaign. You literally went to hell and back, and you get that nod to the main campaign with Aribeth.