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#1 S0lidSnake
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maddoggnick96 on Gamefaqs.com has posted some info from the new GI magazine:

- The biggest thing in the article IMO is that there's a new girl named Chloe Frazer. GI asked about Elena and Sully's return but they had no comment.
- The story is about looking for the ships that Marco Polo "lost" while returning home to Italy.
- Melee combat is more dynamic now.
- They mentioned they were using only 30% of the PS3's power with Drake's Fortune and are planning to use nearly 100% with Among Thieves.
- A demo was shown to GI with Drake going through a city (I believe in Nepal), and he's stealthily taking out guards and escaping the city.
- Nolan North returns to be Drake and Chloe Frazer is played by Claudia Black (Stargate SG-1, Fargate).
- The Sixaxis mechanics were ditched for such things as throwing grenades.
- One of the weapons revealed is a rocket launcher that Chloe uses (might only be for the cinematic).
- There are no load screens.
- The score is being composed by Greg Edmonson (same guy from the first one).
- Weapons can be used in any stance (running, behind cover, hanging, climbing a wall, etc.).
- You can now move while aiming behind cover.

"In Uncharted 2, every character fully interacts with the dynamic geometry moving around them, and environments in the background are real parts of the game world"

"If Drake's on top of a train, he's going to be shaking with the train as it moves around"

"As he gets inside, his moveset is going to change, and he's going to be a lot more secure because the wind's not blowing."

- The graphics look better than Uncharted 1.
- Button sequence cinematics such as the final boss have changed so now Drake is now fully controllable in these parts...I think (This one's also hard to describe).
- Climbing seems improved upon. You can climb lamp posts now among other new things.
- If there is an enemy patrolling a rooftop you're climbing a wall to, you can pull him off the roof while hanging on the wall.

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Source: Stolen from gaf who stole it from gametrailers who stole it from gamefaqs who stole the article from GameInformer.

Sorry about the controversial thread title, but I couldnt help it. I've been hearing rumors that Elena might not be back for Uncharted 2 and this new chick means they're going the Indiana Jones route with a new chick in every sequel. I know it's not confirmed yet, but if Elena isnt beside you for at least half the game then I'm gonna have an epic meltdown.


- They mentioned they were using only 30% of the PS3's power with Drake's Fortune and are planning to use nearly 100% with Among Thieves.

Not this again. I thought we were done with the hidden power statements when last gen ended. Still, I'm glad to know the game will look better than the first which might still be the best looking game I've ever played. (Havent played Gears 2 yet, so forgive me) I think the extra "power" will probably be used for motion blur and other special effects Killzone 2 has also used to give the game a more cinematic feel. I wanna know more about Free Climbing!!

Edit: Just saw the gameinformer scans and yeah, definitely more motion blur and depth of field effects. I cant post the scans here, but google 'uncharted 2 gameinformer pics' and click on the first link. :)

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#2 HiResDes
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GOTY 2009 Confirmed...Damn you Naughty Dog with your pretty graphics, excellent characters, and action-packed gameplay. I wish more PS3 exclusives came out on the PC, but I guess that would be more advantageous for MS.
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#3 argianas
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2009 GOTY confirmed only if there's a lot of Elena.
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#4 Ish_basic
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I think one of the most enjoyable things about Uncharted was the chemistry between the three main characters. It's bad enough if Elena is actually missing, but no Sully would be a crime. They seemed like long time friends and it'd be great to see more of that history. I think I can handle the absence of Elena...I mean all the Indiana Jones movies had a new female lead, though admittedly Elena was considerably more interesting than any of the three of them. This is still one of the games i'm most excited about, but I hate to see the cast possibly broken up.

As far as the gameplay..they had me at "Uncharted 2."

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As long as they explain why she is gone, I'm ok with it. I really like Elena, and I hope she is in the next game, but I will survive if she isn't.
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I had no idea that a character could have so much impact on the state of a game's quality.

So this game will be using the PS3's power to its fullest extent? I find that a little hard to swallow.

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I had no idea that a character could have so much impact on the state of a game's quality.

BladesOfAthena

What can I say, us gamers are suckers for a strong female lead. :P

"So this game will be using the PS3's power to its fullest extent? I find that a little hard to swallow."

If there's one developer I trust, it's Naughty Dog. They are probably talking about using all the 7 SPEs and the PPE to their fullest. I remember reading somewhere that Killzone 2 devs are using 60% of resources in each of the 7 SPEs. It means the SPEs can still do more calculations, ND is probably referring to their SPEs being used to their full extent. Obviously they can always optimize their code and make Uncharted 3 look better than the 2nd, so 100% doesn't mean they've hit a wall, their code can always be improved upon.

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This part blow me away. and are planning to use nearly 100% with Among Thieves. Screw what the OT said, devs tapping into the power of their system is an amazing achievement. It should not be written off. From what I've seen, the first Uncharted looks amazing and having the game use near 100% of PS3's power should make these much more beautiful. And I didn't know U1 had QTEs and motion sensoring?! I hate motion sensoring more than anything and QTEs are a terrible gimmick. I'm glad they removed those from the sequel but that makes me not want to get the first Uncharted anymore. Plus, I hope free climbing is as good and fluid as it should be.
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This part blow me away. and are planning to use nearly 100% with Among Thieves. Screw what the OT said, devs tapping into the power of their system is an amazing achievement. It should not be written off. From what I've seen, the first Uncharted looks amazing and having the game use near 100% of PS3's power should make these much more beautiful. And I didn't know U1 had QTEs and motion sensoring?! I hate motion sensoring more than anything and QTEs are a terrible gimmick. I'm glad they removed those from the sequel but that makes me not want to get the first Uncharted anymore. Plus, I hope free climbing is as good and fluid as it should be.gunswordfist

There was 1 QTE segment in the entire game. And the motion sensing grenade controls were optional as far as I can remember. I dont ever remember using the motion controls to throw grenades, but that's probably because I had so much fun shooting I never used anything but guns.

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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"]This part blow me away. and are planning to use nearly 100% with Among Thieves. Screw what the OT said, devs tapping into the power of their system is an amazing achievement. It should not be written off. From what I've seen, the first Uncharted looks amazing and having the game use near 100% of PS3's power should make these much more beautiful. And I didn't know U1 had QTEs and motion sensoring?! I hate motion sensoring more than anything and QTEs are a terrible gimmick. I'm glad they removed those from the sequel but that makes me not want to get the first Uncharted anymore. Plus, I hope free climbing is as good and fluid as it should be.S0lidSnake

There was 1 QTE segment in the entire game. And the motion sensing grenade controls were optional as far as I can remember. I dont ever remember using the motion controls to throw grenades, but that's probably because I had so much fun shooting I never used anything but guns.

*takes notes about never using grenades* Got it! Thank you!
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you just use the six-axis to set the arc of the grenades (think Gears of War). You can just toss them from the hip if you like. Actually, tossing grenades from cover was really the best way, I remember...the game seemed to pick the perfect arc for you.

and there are about 3 QTEs give or take, 2 of them very quick single presses. Not nearly enough to even bother mentioning really.

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No Elena? What?! Nooo! :( I'm still waiting for that kiss, gosh darnit!
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you just use the six-axis to set the arc of the grenades (think Gears of War). You can just toss them from the hip if you like. Actually, tossing grenades from cover was really the best way, I remember...the game seemed to pick the perfect arc for you.

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Yeah, that's probably why I dont remember using the motion controls.

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#15 CarnageHeart
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Unxharted 2 sounds like a conservative sequel, but I loved almost everything (AI, control, game design, graphics, audio) about Uncharted, so I have no problem with that. I just really hope that if there are any puzzles in the game ND doesn't feed the players the answers (if ND is afraid to slow the pace, they should either drop puzzles entirely or make them really easy).
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Unxharted 2 sounds like a conservative sequel, but I loved almost everything (AI, control, game design, graphics, audio) about Uncharted, so I have no problem with that. I just really hope that if there are any puzzles in the game ND doesn't feed the players the answers (if ND is afraid to slow the pace, they should either drop puzzles entirely or make them really easy).CarnageHeart

You could always turn off the Hints in Uncharted.

I just the platforming is a bit more challenging this time around, I had no problems with the puzzle difficulty, just wish there were more.

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#17 GodModeEnabled
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What? Naughty Dog are mad men I say, MADMEN. If they unleash the full power of the PS3 its going to catapault us all into the fourth dimension! We are just not ready!! Im scared :( *Game looks great though, looking forward to seeing more of the new characters*
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I've always found it to be a touch stupid how developers will throw around percentages like that when it comes to an exclusive game.
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#19 S0lidSnake
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I know we cant post the scans here, but can we post the links to the scan?

Here are some AMAZING looking in game shots and concept art of characters.

The new chick looks pretty hot, I'm already forgetting Elena. Elena was pretty in girl next door take her home to see your mother kind of way, this new chick.. well, you dont want her anywhere near your mother! Hot!

The enviornments already look more diverse than Uncharted. I see huge waterfalls, bridges, forest, snow covered valleys and mountains and a city that looks a cross between RE4 and MGS4. The detail in the city shots is insane..... bananas! and the new stealth move is awesome! :lol:

now please ND, let us carry more than one machine gun at a time, at least on her second playthrough. This is one reason why I like MGS games so much, you can carry pretty much anything and use it whenever you want to. No limits, no BS.

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#21 weddy92
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I had no idea that a character could have so much impact on the state of a game's quality.

So this game will be using the PS3's power to its fullest extent? I find that a little hard to swallow.

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must ... resist ... urge:P

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#22 AzelKosMos
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Uncharted is still currently my favorite PS3 game, just blew me away when i played it and i am hyped for the sequel.

I loved Elena though and will be sad if she isn't in the game :(

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#23 zaid55
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Woohoo cant wait for it. First day buy definite but i m kind of sad that they havent mentioned Elena or Sully. I mean one thing i loved about Uncharted was the characters. I like the fact that you can now climb lamp posts and such, hope we get a demo soon. :)
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#24 argianas
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Woohoo cant wait for it. First day buy definite but i m kind of sad that they havent mentioned Elena or Sully. I mean one thing i loved about Uncharted was the characters. I like the fact that you can now climb lamp posts and such, hope we get a demo soon. :)zaid55

Soon? October at the absolute earliest I'd say.

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And I thought something was developing between Nate and Elena! why do they have to take that away? :( I loved elena in the game! and chemistry between the three characters is fabulous!! I'm looking forward to it already! hope Elena will somehow make the screen and surprise us all!! GO Uncharted!!

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#26 argianas
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Well I don't think she and Sully are totally gone, given the no comment about if they're in the game or not. Almost gets me wondering if they'll swoop in late in the game for story reasons.

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Some art.

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#28 S0lidSnake
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IGN: Exploring the Art of Uncharted 2.

Nothing that we don't already know. They are still being way too vague about everything. Not that I want to know more about the story or anything, I just wish ND had released some gameplay videos with their new traversal and stealth system in action.

Also, They need to come out and deny the exsistence of a co-op mode. I hate how they aren't denying anything. Stop teasing me ND! :evil:

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#29 snapdog31
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true!! but i guess it is those vague stuff that keep us HOOKED up!! Is there any potential release date? gues what? I'm playing the game again to refresh myself! absolutely a fabulous game! relaxing storyline, good gameplay and all! ;)

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Is this game going to be M? It sounds way darker
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#31 CarnageHeart
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Is this game going to be M? It sounds way darkerOblivionfan10

I was suprised the first Uncharted got away with a T. Naughty Dog didn't shy away from the red stuff.

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Real-time cutscenes... come on you an do it :P

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#33 kingdre
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What?! No Elena and Sully?! :evil:

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#34 shinian
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No Elena? This is madness. She was so cute. Why Nughty Dog, oh why?

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#35 jasopan
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Bit more Stealth but....100% of the PS3's potential.. wow?
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#36 Louis-D
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And I thought something was developing between Nate and Elena! why do they have to take that away? :( I loved elena in the game! and chemistry between the three characters is fabulous!! I'm looking forward to it already! hope Elena will somehow make the screen and surprise us all!! GO Uncharted!!

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