Next Gen Wars: Outcome in Sight?

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#1 kluc05
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*braces himself for a lot of hate mail*

It seems to me that as of this point, PS3 is steadily losing it's competitive edge. As of E3 08, PS3 only has (off the top of my head) one major exclusive title, and that's Metal Gear. I say major, because Metal Gear is their most proven title. Resistance may turn out to be a good series, we will see. As for Killzone...the first one got, at best, average reviews. While the sequel looks good, we all have seen many games that look great and end up worthless.

From late 2007 up until this point in 2008, PS3 has lost the following exclusive titles:

Final Fantasy

Devil May Cry

Grand Theft Auto

Resident Evil

There may be more, but you get my point. I am in no way bashing the PS3, but now that Microsoft will be selling Blu Ray players (not sure when this starts?), it is hard to justify paying that price. The one thing PS3 has is the fact that buying a PS3 is actually cheaper than buying a Blu Ray player, so that's pretty cool there. PS3 also has the benefit of Asian markets being bigots towards Microsoft, so 360 will never sell well there.

As for the Wii, it's biggest downfall is that because of it's unique gameplay, it is much harder to port games to the Wii. Put yourself into the place of a game developer. While there are some complicated measures in porting from PC to console, going from console to console is fairly easy. However, imagine if you had to redo an entire games gameplay to accomodate the controls? Not to mention the power of the Wii is on par with old gen consoles, so you would have to dumb down your graphics to run the game on the Wii. Of course, graphics aren't everything and the Wii offers unique gameplay, but it's uniqueness is also it's biggest issue.

So it must be obvious now that I believe the Xbox 360 will end up being the top selling next gen console. Note I don't say best, that is an opinion. I simply believe it will outsell the others in the long run. This continues the trend that the system released first typically will sell the most. Add on the fact that a vast majority of Sony's exclusive titles are no longer exclusive, and maybe you will see where my thought process is going.

Now is where irrational Sony fanboys call me an idiot. Again, keep in mind I am not saying any console is better, I'm just stating my opinion on fiscal outcomes.

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#2 rragnaar
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:lol:... lacing your whole argument with terms like fanboy, bigot, idiot, etc. is a surefire way to make sure no one on this board takes you seriously. As for the thread in general, it belongs in System Wars, or in this month's NPD thread. I'm not sure where you got the idea that MS will be selling blu-ray players soon.

edit: ...and like it or not, the 360 is never going to outsell the Wii. That ship has sailed. I don't believe the Wii can be stopped at this point.
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#3 AzelKosMos
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I love the way you ignore M$ massive proven hardware failure which surely will push people to other consoles, the warrenty will only last so long...I can't be asked to argue the rest of your points I disagree with, I own all 3 consoles and am most impressed with the PS3 myself, which has also been catching the 360 in sales from what I have heard.

But yes...this belongs in system wars.

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#4 kluc05
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Well I use bigotry in an appropriate fashion. Japan does not by from Microsoft because they consider it the epitome of American economic domination, and because the Japanese tend to buy Japanese products.

I say fanboy because there are many people who will say my ideas are wrong just because they like the PS3, and have no reason besides that to like it.

And I said "call ME an idiot", in no way did I call anyone else an idiot. So read a little more indepth next time.

And as for the Wii, many game developers don't even consider the Wii to be a next gen console. Yes the controls are innovative, but so was the Game Glove for the original Nintendo, and it still was not considered in the same league as Sega Genesis. And I predict the Wii will slow down in sales, especially once game developers get tired of having to create custom engines for the console.

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#5 kluc05
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Well I use bigotry in an appropriate fashion. Japan does not by from Microsoft because they consider it the epitome of American economic domination, and because the Japanese tend to buy Japanese products.

I say fanboy because there are many people who will say my ideas are wrong just because they like the PS3, and have no reason besides that to like it.

And I said "call ME an idiot", in no way did I call anyone else an idiot. So read a little more indepth next time.

And as for the Wii, many game developers don't even consider the Wii to be a next gen console. Yes the controls are innovative, but so was the Game Glove for the original Nintendo, and it still was not considered in the same league as Sega Genesis. And I predict the Wii will slow down in sales, especially once game developers get tired of having to create custom engines for the console.

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#6 rragnaar
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Well I use bigotry in an appropriate fashion. Japan does not by from Microsoft because they consider it the epitome of American economic domination, and because the Japanese tend to buy Japanese products.

I say fanboy because there are many people who will say my ideas are wrong just because they like the PS3, and have no reason besides that to like it.

And I said "call ME an idiot", in no way did I call anyone else an idiot. So read a little more indepth next time.

And as for the Wii, many game developers don't even consider the Wii to be a next gen console. Yes the controls are innovative, but so was the Game Glove for the original Nintendo, and it still was not considered in the same league as Sega Genesis. And I predict the Wii will slow down in sales, especially once game developers get tired of having to create custom engines for the console.

kluc05

I read your whole post in depth, and I stand by what I said earlier. I don't think the Japanese avoid the 360 out of bigotry. Their whole market has shifted towards casual gaming and handhelds. It is clear from your post that you don't follow worldwide sales trends. The 360 has slowed down everywhere, and the Wii has done nothing but pick up steam... and the PS3 has been slowly outselling the 360 all year.
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#7 kluc05
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Latest studies show that the 360 still has twice as many consoles in home than the PS3, which explains why its sales are slowing down. As for their shift towards handhelds, that is true but you have to keep in mind that Microsoft has never had a stable market in any Asian market, not just with games but with all their products. This isn't a recent concept, it's been that way since Microsoft came around.

And considering that HD-DVD's are selling abysmally, it would be pretty stupid of Microsoft to not embrace Blu Ray...and Microsoft never passes up on a chance to make money.

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And considering that HD-DVD's are selling abysmally, it would be pretty stupid of Microsoft to not embrace Blu Ray...and Microsoft never passes up on a chance to make money.

kluc05

Well that statement is for damn sure. Just look at how Xbox Live is set up, the whole system requires you to spend money to generally do anything. But anways that is not why I posted. The reason I posted was to say that the Wii will not let up on sales. Look how well the DS is doing and that is just a hand held. Once better games start releasing for the Nintendo Wii it will pick up even more. Though I just barley found a decent web site that displays the sales chart accuratly, the PS3 is sneaking up on the 360, and it is not because everyone already bought a 360. It is more of their hardware failures, and finally realizing that the PS3 is better. Now I do not know if this is true or not, but the PS3 is not down by much considering against the 360.

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#9 Old_Gooseberry
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ps3 is done for... sony is having such bad luck, I could almost see God of War 3 somehow going multiplatform