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#1 thrasher1234
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What do you think of Tekken? I think its a great game.(better than virtual fighter!) and does anyone know when Tekken 6 is coming out? I don't think gamespot spends a lot of time on it.

Tell me what you think

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#2 THEWINDWAKER10
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I've always been a fan of Tekken, and to me, all fighting games are very much alike, so I see no difference between Tekken and say, Virtua Fighter or Dead or Alive. Its a solid game, although I don't think its enough of a reason to buy a PS3, for me at least.
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#3 resurrectionjoe
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I never liked the Tekken series much. Always came across as way too much a button-mashers fighting game to me. In the 3d fighting game world, i mainly liked the Soul Edge/Soul Calibur series and a few others but i was mainly into 2d fighters.
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#4 creato
Member since 2006 • 71 Posts

it`s perhaps the greatest fighter but,the new sequls are too much more of the same.

and their lack of creativty,makes them boring and not worth bying.

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#5 zeorshadow19
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I've been a fan but that doesn't mean I'm going to pay more than 600 dollars to buy it.
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#6 feel_freetwo
Member since 2006 • 1888 Posts
well i love soul calibur, i love the focus on its blocking, and then striking. i love doa for its counter attacks, although theres soooo many issues with hit detection and unbalanced characters. i dont like virtual fighter, it seemed so slow and i simply couldnt get in to it. tekken is a awesome game, its the only fighting game out there whcih has some what of a interesting story (not a good one anymore) but interesting. and its a easy game to pick up. someone said its a button masher, well it CAN be, but its also a skillful game. its very open to allowing beginners and experts play, unlike virtual fighter.
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#7 Revelade
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I don't like the way Tekken plays.

From the competitive videos I've seen, characters dance around. Then when someone gets close, someone messes up and gets into a juggle. Then the juggle ends, they space out and repeat.

I don't like the emphasis on combos.

I'd rather play Soul Calibur and CvS2 or third strike.

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#8 DarkCatalyst
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Tekken didn't really become big until my local arcade scene was dead. A Virtua Fighter player from the moment it hit arcades, I was actually very excited to get my hands on the game that could actually be more popuiar. Then I finally did...

"What the hell is this crap?"

The original Tekken...let's just say it failed to impress me. It had a large character roster, but with an anemic movelist, stiff controls, and mechanics that were "less than fluid" at best, I felt like I was playing Rock-em Sock-em Robots: The Game. My opinion of Tekken 2 was similar when it came out, but at least it had some movelist depth and a little style going for it. Still, I lost a lot of respect for the North American fighting fans. "They're playing this crap over Virtua Fighter?"

Tekken 3 was a good game to me. It had more depth than the previous titles, and a more fluid sense of motion. It also no longer felt like the characters were being pushed toward each other, making it more friendly to my general style of play in the fighting genre. I didn't prefer it to the closely-timed Virtua Fighter 3, which introduced even more depth, varied environments, and a similar evasion mechanic, but I could respect Tekken 3. That's the first Tekken game I could feel any sort of interest in.

Tekken Tag Tournament was a good next step, and one I particularly found interesting because it came along around the same time as the first Marvel vs Capcom, back when that series was actually good. I like the tag mechanic when it isn't too over-the-top, and Tekken Tag Tournament got a lot of my playtime as a result.

I still played VF3 more.

Tekken 4, despite how others felt, was a big surprise to me - the good kind. It felt like Namco made a big push to give the Tekken series a rock-solid identity in terms of gameplay, where the first few games actually felt a little generic (despite Tekken 3/Tag's movement). I also felt, and still feel to this day, that there were elements thrown into Tekken 4 to give it a manufactured (but still beautiful) sense of 2D nostalgia. Specifically, there were parts of it that really brought back feelings of playing Super Street Fighter II Turbo and King of Fighters '99. This was the first Tekken I really took seriously...but again, I still liked Virtua Fighter more.

Tekken 5/Dark Resurrection did almost everything right, but I would have liked to have seen Tekken 4's sidestepping mechanic rather than what they went with (3/Tag's with the slow walk tacked on afterward). I still played it quite seriously, which culminated in a Pacific North divisional title in 2005. Marduk FTW.

And I still preferred Virtua Fighter, even though I was a better Tekken player at this point.

Tekken 6 worries me unless they either ditch item-based attacks, or gimp them into the dirt.

I don't like the way Tekken plays.

From the competitive videos I've seen, characters dance around. Then when someone gets close, someone messes up and gets into a juggle. Then the juggle ends, they space out and repeat.

I don't like the emphasis on combos.

I'd rather play Soul Calibur and CvS2 or third strike.Revelade

You should watch me play sometime (I'll have to rip the tournament videos I've been sitting on from two years ago). My highest combo is four hits, and my main objective is to basically set up to choke people out. In a game loaded with combo whores, I'm methodical and tactical.

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#9 ShenlongBo
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[QUOTE="Revelade"]I don't like the way Tekken plays.

From the competitive videos I've seen, characters dance around. Then when someone gets close, someone messes up and gets into a juggle. Then the juggle ends, they space out and repeat.

I don't like the emphasis on combos.

I'd rather play Soul Calibur and CvS2 or third strike.DarkCatalyst

You should watch me play sometime (I'll have to rip the tournament videos I've been sitting on from two years ago). My highest combo is four hits, and my main objective is to basically set up to choke people out. In a game loaded with combo whores, I'm methodical and tactical.

Hell yeah, man, pull those up. I've always felt the same as Rev concerning Tekken. It's not that I don't see how others could enjoy that fighting system, but it just never appealed to me. I'll take SoulCalibur 2 over it any day.

And I don't know if you recall, but I got really interested in VF4 Evo as a result of one of these fighting game threads you were very vocal in. Without question, it's the best 3D fighter out there (well... how's 5?), and I wish more people would try to understand it. It's not that hard.

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#10 rabidwolf86
Member since 2004 • 743 Posts
i liked it i own tag tournament but i really think they need to change it not churn it out yearly with stronger competition like soul calibur and virtua fighter in the ring.
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#11 DarkCatalyst
Member since 2002 • 21074 Posts
[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"][QUOTE="Revelade"]I don't like the way Tekken plays.

From the competitive videos I've seen, characters dance around. Then when someone gets close, someone messes up and gets into a juggle. Then the juggle ends, they space out and repeat.

I don't like the emphasis on combos.

I'd rather play Soul Calibur and CvS2 or third strike.ShenlongBo

You should watch me play sometime (I'll have to rip the tournament videos I've been sitting on from two years ago). My highest combo is four hits, and my main objective is to basically set up to choke people out. In a game loaded with combo whores, I'm methodical and tactical.

Hell yeah, man, pull those up. I've always felt the same as Rev concerning Tekken. It's not that I don't see how others could enjoy that fighting system, but it just never appealed to me. I'll take SoulCalibur 2 over it any day.

And I don't know if you recall, but I got really interested in VF4 Evo as a result of one of these fighting game threads you were very vocal in. Without question, it's the best 3D fighter out there (well... how's 5?), and I wish more people would try to understand it. It's not that hard.

Glad I was there to introduce you to the ownage that is Virtua Fighter. :)

VF5...depends entirely on what you're looking for.

If you're playing competitively with other people, it's much better than Evo.

If you're new to the series (obviously not you in that case) or spend most of your time on single-player, you won't get as much out of it. The badass tutorials are gone and the AI is...not weak, just kinda lame. It's more stereotypical as far as fighting game AI goes, it's not based on real players for the most part, although it claims to be (Jonas is even in there, sort of).

Dunno...I'd call VF5 better at the end of the day, but others might disagree. It's the only one that really matters today, that's for sure.

I'll see about getting a VCR set up for those T5 vids. It's not direct feed since I'm not set up for that, and it's not representative of how I was playing when I won that division title, but it'll give you an example of my playstyle.

But I'm sure you'll be refreshed to see an admittedly solid Steve passed out in a puddle of his own drool without even eating any big combos. :)

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#12 Kage1
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I've been a fan but that doesn't mean I'm going to pay more than 600 dollars to buy it.zeorshadow19
Same here. I love Tekken. Been playing since the first game, but I can wait a while to play the next game.
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#13 branketra
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I think that Tekken has the potential to sweep the 3d fighter competition. Seriously.

I don't say that because I think it looks the coolest or has the best characters. I think that it has the most immersive fighting system out of the current main titles on the market (Fight Night is the only other game which I'm contemplating with besides Tekken). I'm speaking of Virtua Fighter, Dead or Alive, and yes, even Soul Calibur (well...Soulcalibur now).

Almost every move is done by pressing the button that moves a certain limb (two buttons for two arms and two for the legs, specials are more complicated, etc.).

Besides the "pop-up" mechanic that I hope is fixed someday (5-7 hit air combos that aren't part of the moves list. They know.)..I don't have any problem with the system and I see it as very balanced.

Out of any fighting game's battle system besides Fight Night and Soul Calibur-...*sigh*...Soulcalibur, I see Tekken's being integrated into fluid motion sensing technology.

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#14 BuryMe
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I think tekken is one of the greatest fioghting franchises on the market. The gameplay is always fresh and varied. THe characters are all really cool, too.
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#15 OnlyTbone
Member since 2007 • 138 Posts
Tekken was my favorite until i played dead or alive 4, Now i beleive DOA is better, only my opinion though. I havent played one since tekken 5 though so....I just like how DOAs fighting system works
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#16 DarkCatalyst
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I think that Tekken has the potential to sweep the 3d fighter competition. Seriously.

I don't say that because I think it looks the coolest or has the best characters. I think that it has the most immersive fighting system out of the current main titles on the market (Fight Night is the only other game which I'm contemplating with besides Tekken). I'm speaking of Virtua Fighter, Dead or Alive, and yes, even Soul Calibur (well...Soulcalibur now).

Almost every move is done by pressing the button that move a certain limb (arms, legs, etc).

Besides the "pop-up" mechanic that I hope is fixed someday (5-7 hit air combos that aren't part of the moves list. They know.)..I don't have any problem with the system and I see it as very balanced.

Out of any fighting game's battle system besides Fight Night and Soul Calibur-...*sigh*...Soulcalibur, I see Tekken's being intergrated into fluid motion sensing technology.BranKetra

Combos always exist outside the movelist. That's why they're combos and not strings. It's not going to be "fixed" because it's not something they didn't intend.

Tekken will never take the step into motion-sensing because it's a traditional arcade-style fighting game. It'll never do anything that isn't tied to the arcade stick and buttons. Motion sensing isn't precise enough to fit with high-level Tekken play.

As for being the top 3D fighter, it first has to develop a greater depth and level of expertise than Virtua Fighter, and it seems the team at Namco isn't even interested in doing that (nor is the general playerbase).

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#17 BadSushi
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Being a fan of some but not all fighters I have to say Tekken is my favorite. They have a wide variety of characters that are rarley copied except for Eddie and the other Capoeria chick, but DOA is good also since it is somewhat realistic by implementing counters, which get out of hand sometimes. The only thing that annopys me with DOA are there are too many people who are ninjas and the juggling just gets out of hand to the point where they look as if they are flying.
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#18 -INKling-
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I think Tekken is great. It is easy to get into, has a great list of genuinely unique fighters and has a deep fighting system to explore. I never really warmed to DOA or Virtua Fighter but Tekken's blend of savage attacks and sense of humour make it the complete package for me. Having said that, I thought Jinpachi was the cheapest boss ever.
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#19 shinian
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I am a casual fighting games player so tekken was my only choice. You can even button mash and still have the fun playing this game. The big advantage of this serie are the ending movie scenes. 80% of them is hillarious. I played Tekken1,2,4,5 Now I have some serious doubts about the 6th part. The great thing about it will be the amount of characters- over 40. It means loads of great cut scenes. As for the drawbacks: I think that shooting will be bad. Anna shooting her shoe at opponent looks silly. And as it goes for pro players: I don't thinkt that Tekken6, with this number of characters will be balanced. I think that there will be some characters like Kazuya "I can do everything" Mishima from the Tekken 4.
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#20 Foolz3h
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Tekken 3 is one of my favourite games of all time.

The game was juat adictive, especially in multiplayer!

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#21 winnerjay
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i think Tekken is far and away the best fighting franchise ever (sorry SF2 and VF) i think the fighting is the most complex yet fluid and accesable out there, and the characters and balance are top notch. i think outside of a small hiccup with 4 (which was still decent) all the games have been fantastic.
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#22 thrasher1234
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Ya I think that its not just the fighting but the story which makes it a great game. I wouldn't spend 650 dollars just to get it either, but I still think its a great game. It can be for either the arcade-buttin mashing type or people who like to perfom various moves.I also enjoy the different ways of fighting they have in the game. Although I do agree with some people on the fact that the older ones were better. Its like there at a pont where they can't get anything else out of kazuya, jin, or heichi(however you spell it) so now they hae to add new evil people like jinpachi or just repeat itslef and have jin go on a devil rampage and beat up kazuya or whoever and then fly off.

Overall its a great game. Not worth all that money.But great.

And did sony actually decide to drop the price on the ps3

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#23 EnergyAbsorber
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Tekken 6 worries me unless they either ditch item-based attacks, or gimp them into the dirt.

DarkCatalyst

I dont think those will be used much (if at all) in high level play. Or maybe just as juggle enders.

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#24 solidte
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Tekken is a slightly underatted in alot of people's eyes, it really is one the greatest fighting games out there. Tekken 2 is when i started and is one of those games that are instant classics, it was no surprise when it was inducted into 'The Greatest Games of All Time'. Tekken 3 is even better, combat was smoother, a presentation that pushed the PS1, in my opinion, the greatest 3D fighting game ever made. Tekken 4 was a great game and it had it's merits but it was simple, changing the forumla would only take back the series a step. So Namco anwsered everyone's complaints and gave them exactly what the fans wanted, Tekken 5/DR, which only improved Tekken 3s combat, added a array of options, modes, characters and Tekken 5/DR simply rocks.
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#25 Archangel3371
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Excellent fighting game series. I've been a fan of it ever since the first game and it's probably my 2nd favourite in the realm of 3D fighters. Tekken 5, Tekken Tag Tournament, and Tekken 3 are my top three of the series, in that order. I really wish they would make a Tekken Tag Tournament 2 game though.
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#26 nopalversion
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Even though it's not as balanced and deep as VF, I like Tekken because of the clear, anime-style impact powerful hits have. Plus, it features a good variety of fighting styles and it can get deep enough for a hardcore fan. I agree with Dark Catalyst about Tekken 4. It seemed like a step in the right direction, but the fans kept it from becoming something more. Tekken 5 was a return to traditional, controlled fighting, with an attrocious emphasis on juggles. It's still lots of fun though.

My favourite series in the 3d arena is still Soul Calibur, though.

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Tekken 2 is one of the greatest games ever...
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#28 GaussGoat
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Namco has crafted a very solid fighting game with Tekken. It is fast, easy to play, has good characters, and the series features Tag-Team play. Overall, it is one of my favorite fighting games. Tekken 3 in particular really dominated my playing hours for some time... it is a classic.

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#29 EnergyAbsorber
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I really wish they would make a Tekken Tag Tournament 2 game though.Archangel3371

I think TTT2 will be made eventually. Perhaps it will be the next Tekken game after T6.

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#30 kirktheninja
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True that.
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#31 Darth_Homer
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does anyone know when Tekken 6 is coming out?

thrasher1234

Arcades this year. PS3...maybe this year or 2008.

As for the game, I'm really skeptical of it. I don't like the idea of item moves and the new characters don't excite me all too much (except for Prince...I mean Miguel). However, I'm liking they're improve the customization aspect, adding online play and pretty much including every popular Tekken character ever. That being said, I'm looking forward to it extensively (long-term Tekken player, though I've been branching into VF...so good). Also, I've been wanting to try the DR characters (excluding Armor King).

Just reading your comments about your history with Tekken, DC. I'm surprised you consider Tekken 4 to be good. I always considered it to be a low point of the series (far too slow, but then again, you're a VF player, so you're used to that). Can't wait to see your Tekken 5 vids, I've always wanted to see what gave you that tournament win...

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#32 Jonas_81
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Namco has stated that T6 will come out A) After Soul Calibur IV B) "Less then a year" after the arcade release. Which probably means they will go as close to a year as they can. I say this pegs the game for a autumn/winter 2008 release. So don't hold your breath, folks.

I'm surprised you consider Tekken 4 to be good. I always considered it to be a low point of the series (far too slow, but then again, you're a VF player, so you're used to that).

You're funny.