Peripherals should stay in the Arcades and away from the home console.

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#1 WILL_423
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I remember when Dance Dance Revolution was the biggest thing in the arcades. House of the Dead, Silent Scope, Time Crisis are a few games I like in the arcades. But in my opinion games with peripherals should stay in the arcades and away from the home console.

The NES had some peripherals like the NES Zapper, The Power Pad, The R.O.B., The Laser Scope, The Araknoid Controller (or Vaus), And the Power Glove.

The Super Nintendo Had Some Peripherals too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System#Peripherals

Then over the course of, I want to say 15-20 years, the peripherals stopped coming. All through out the N64, PS1, Gamecube, PS2, and XBOX, there were no peripherals (or none that I can think of) for these consoles. And now they seem to be coming back with these Next Gen Consoles. The most famous ones being Guitar Hero and Rock Band. There are other ones too like DJ Hero, Wii Fit, and Tony Hawk Ride.

I don't like the fact that peripherals are coming back to the home console. In my opinion, that stuff has to stay in the arcades. When I'm done with playing a game, the only thing I want to put down is the controller not some piece of expensive plastic. That's why I like the Arcades. You just put a few quarters in the machine, play, put it away, and go to another machine. Now I understand that there are kids that play with these machines and aren't very nice to them, but that's the beauty of arcades. If it doesn't work, screw it, go to another machine. If your peripheral at home breaks you have to buy another one.

So what do you think? Should peripherals come back and stay on the home console, or stay in the arcades? I want to hear the opinion of the Gamespot Community.

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I don't mind them really. They are beginning to get out of hand though.

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#3 Wolf_BladeGX
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I think there were light guns released for the PS2 along with Time crisis or something, and then there was that huge control set with Steel Batallion... not sure it that meets the criteria your Peripheral though (that game was epic).

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I really do not think its a bad idea. And you must hate the wii then because that is one big peripheal. New interfaces if doen well are good for home gaming.
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#5 CarnageHeart
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I religiously avoid high-speciailization, limited use controllers (I felt pretty stupid after ROB the Video Robot).

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#6 mattykovax
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I religiously avoid high-speciailization, limited use controllers (I felt pretty stupid after ROB the Video Robot).

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Yeah,that was pretty bad. I used to play gyromite with my cousin.
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#7 ZenesisX
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To an extent i would agree. Its not really the problem that they exist on consoles, but that there are so many of them, usually only catering to one game.

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#8 BuryMe
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There's nothing wrong with peripherals. The right peripheral can add a lot to a game.

And there were lots of add ons for last gen consoles. The DDR dance mat, arcade sticks Guitar hero...

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That's cool bro, but I got some bad news. You live in an alternate dimension where arcades still exist. Basically, you just said I should never get to play any of those games ever.

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Then over the course of, I want to say 15-20 years, the peripherals stopped coming. All through out the N64, PS1, Gamecube, PS2, and XBOX, there were no peripherals (or none that I can think of) for these consoles. And now they seem to be coming back with these Next Gen Consoles. The most famous ones being Guitar Hero and Rock Band. There are other ones too like DJ Hero, Wii Fit, and Tony Hawk Ride.

I don't like the fact that peripherals are coming back to the home console. In my opinion, that stuff has to stay in the arcades. When I'm done with playing a game, the only thing I want to put down is the controller not some piece of expensive plastic. That's why I like the Arcades. You just put a few quarters in the machine, play, put it away, and go to another machine. Now I understand that there are kids that play with these machines and aren't very nice to them, but that's the beauty of arcades. If it doesn't work, screw it, go to another machine. If your peripheral at home breaks you have to buy another one.

So what do you think? Should peripherals come back and stay on the home console, or stay in the arcades? I want to hear the opinion of the Gamespot Community.

WILL_423

steel battalion had a fantastic dashboard controller for a complex mech sim that was a very fun and engrossing game. there has also always been the guncon, arcade sticks, flight sticks and wheels. i have no idea why you would not want these on a home console, as they improve the experience of some games enormously. for example, playing fighting games without an arcade stick is, like, a perversion of the experience (almost as much as playing fighting games online). similarly, flight sticks make games like ace combat way more fun.

purpose-built peripherials are obviously niche. but i think they provide a god and interesting experience in many cases. nobody can deny guitar hero was pretty crazy and fun when it first came out, and its still enjoyable from time to time. ddr is still a huge hit at parties, even at my age. as long as they are done well, there is literally no drawback to having peripherial-based games.

That's cool bro, but I got some bad news. You live in an alternate dimension where arcades still exist. Basically, you just said I should never get to play any of those games ever.

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sucks to be you, i live two blocks away from a great arcade.

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#11 faracus33
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Hey what about all those neat Street fighter joysticks and gamepads cant forget about those not that I have any.

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#12 MadVybz
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The funny thing is that outside of Japan, arcades are more or less dead.

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#13 92GreenYJ
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PS2,Gamecube, PS1, etc all had various peripherals available. Be it light guns or more commonly driving apparatus for racing games. I personally like some of the peripherals available for the Wii, granted there are many i would never use like the maracas, golf club attatchments, etc.
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The funny thing is that outside of Japan, arcades are more or less dead.

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Not exactly. They have just taken on new and different forms. For Example, Dave & Busters, or the Arcade I manage. Similar to Dave & Busters, it is an arcade attached to a restaurant, in my case, the Corvette Diner. And let me tell you, we are plenty busy!!
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[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

The funny thing is that outside of Japan, arcades are more or less dead.

92GreenYJ

Not exactly. They have just taken on new and different forms. For Example, Dave & Busters, or the Arcade I manage. Similar to Dave & Busters, it is an arcade attached to a restaurant, in my case, the Corvette Diner. And let me tell you, we are plenty busy!!

I wasn't implying that all arcades are unsuccessful or don't exist anymore, I was saying that they're nowhere near as popular as they used to be. And the only ones that seem to attract people are the ones that are also close or attached to eating establishments, (like your example.) or Chuck E. Cheese's. (If you can even call it an arcade.)

There aren't that many stand alone arcades anymore outside of Japan (If there even are any out there today). If there's an arcade anywhere else and it's successful, some other form of entertainment or a place for food is nearby.

And we can't forget; the average age of a gamer is well beyond the juvenile age, and it's the kids that were the ones that were going to the arcades. Those kids grew up, and now they have the convenience of relatively cheap game consoles or a gaming PC. The kids of today's world also have that option, so there's no need for them to go to an arcade either.

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[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="92GreenYJ"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]

The funny thing is that outside of Japan, arcades are more or less dead.

Not exactly. They have just taken on new and different forms. For Example, Dave & Busters, or the Arcade I manage. Similar to Dave & Busters, it is an arcade attached to a restaurant, in my case, the Corvette Diner. And let me tell you, we are plenty busy!!

I wasn't implying that all arcades are unsuccessful or don't exist anymore, I was saying that they're nowhere near as popular as they used to be. And the only ones that seem to attract people are the ones that are also close or attached to eating establishments, (like your example.) or Chuck E. Cheese's. (If you can even call it an arcade.)

There aren't that many stand alone arcades anymore outside of Japan (If there even are any out there today). If there's an arcade anywhere else and it's successful, some other form of entertainment or a place for food is nearby.

And we can't forget; the average age of a gamer is well beyond the juvenile age, and it's the kids that were the ones that were going to the arcades. Those kids grew up, and now they have the convenience of relatively cheap game consoles or a gaming PC. The kids of today's world also have that option, so there's no need for them to go to an arcade either.

That is true. I remember back in the day there was an arcade in every mall. Now they are few and far between. There is an arcade in 2 of my local malls, a Chuck E Cheese (I don't count that) near our establishment, A Dave & Busters a few miles away as well. Past that its FECs (Family Entertainment Centers, I>E. Mini Golf, Go Kart, Batting Cages, Arcade all in one type of deals) and those are pretty few and farbetween as well. But yes, the arcades of the 80s and 90s have mostly dissapeared. I think its partially do to the machine industry itself. These units aren't cheap. The machines in my 3,000 Sq ft game room cost around a quarter of a mil and we have 47 units. Think our most expensive machine was the Big Bass Wheel and that comes in right around 13k
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Peripherals were great if you were addicted to one game. Pretty soon, we won't even need a gamepad for the xbox 360. Search PROJECT NATAL. Maybe in a few years we won't even need keyboard and mouse for a pc. If pc still exist...

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[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="92GreenYJ"] Not exactly. They have just taken on new and different forms. For Example, Dave & Busters, or the Arcade I manage. Similar to Dave & Busters, it is an arcade attached to a restaurant, in my case, the Corvette Diner. And let me tell you, we are plenty busy!!92GreenYJ

I wasn't implying that all arcades are unsuccessful or don't exist anymore, I was saying that they're nowhere near as popular as they used to be. And the only ones that seem to attract people are the ones that are also close or attached to eating establishments, (like your example.) or Chuck E. Cheese's. (If you can even call it an arcade.)

There aren't that many stand alone arcades anymore outside of Japan (If there even are any out there today). If there's an arcade anywhere else and it's successful, some other form of entertainment or a place for food is nearby.

And we can't forget; the average age of a gamer is well beyond the juvenile age, and it's the kids that were the ones that were going to the arcades. Those kids grew up, and now they have the convenience of relatively cheap game consoles or a gaming PC. The kids of today's world also have that option, so there's no need for them to go to an arcade either.

That is true. I remember back in the day there was an arcade in every mall. Now they are few and far between. There is an arcade in 2 of my local malls, a Chuck E Cheese (I don't count that) near our establishment, A Dave & Busters a few miles away as well. Past that its FECs (Family Entertainment Centers, I>E. Mini Golf, Go Kart, Batting Cages, Arcade all in one type of deals) and those are pretty few and farbetween as well. But yes, the arcades of the 80s and 90s have mostly dissapeared. I think its partially do to the machine industry itself. These units aren't cheap. The machines in my 3,000 Sq ft game room cost around a quarter of a mil and we have 47 units. Think our most expensive machine was the Big Bass Wheel and that comes in right around 13k

I was actually going to move on to that for a double post, but you beat me to it. :P

They are indeed expensive, and for what they cost and with the conditions of today's market, they're hardly profitable. And to actually formulate an answer to the TC; Peripherals don't have a place to call home. The arcades are close to a bust, and those with consoles at home apparently don't want them either (Unless they have a Wii, which is a peripheral in itself when you think about it).

Actually, with the Wii in mind, peripherals are in the strongest position they've ever been in, are they not? It's more 360 and PS3 owners that are complaining about them.

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#19 92GreenYJ
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I think the real difference with the Wii peripherals is that most of them work for multiple games. Take the Wii Wheel for instance. You can use that for any driving game. Mario Kart, Excite Truck, Excite Bots, Etc. I think thats part of the reason they are successful on the Wii, they work on a multitude of games.
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I have to admit I was in a phase of buying nothing but those, ex Driving Wheel, Time Crisis guncon, etc... But I snapped out of it, it really took up to much space. :P
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I remember a LONG time ago, I owned this badass Microsoft flight stick, specifically designed to be used for Microsoft Flight Simulator. It was ****ing badass. worked really intuitively, was extremely well-designed, with all of the controls precisely where they ought to be, felt extremely comfortable in the hand, and was solidly built, not some cheap-ass POS that would break after a month. And the icing on the cake was some EXCELLENT force feedback. This wasn't like those crappy little vibrators that we have today, it provided real reasistance to movement, and could actually DIRECT that resistance in pretty much any direction. So you actually got the feeling that you were truly, say, flying with strong winds coming from the south.

THAT was a great freaking peripheral. Too bad no one really cares about flight sims these days (it also worked great for futuristic "spaceship sims"). Because I'd DEFINITELY buy a peripheral like that, if there were actually games for it. After all, who wants to play a flight simulator with a crappy little gamepad?

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[QUOTE="92GreenYJ"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]

I wasn't implying that all arcades are unsuccessful or don't exist anymore, I was saying that they're nowhere near as popular as they used to be. And the only ones that seem to attract people are the ones that are also close or attached to eating establishments, (like your example.) or Chuck E. Cheese's. (If you can even call it an arcade.)

There aren't that many stand alone arcades anymore outside of Japan (If there even are any out there today). If there's an arcade anywhere else and it's successful, some other form of entertainment or a place for food is nearby.

And we can't forget; the average age of a gamer is well beyond the juvenile age, and it's the kids that were the ones that were going to the arcades. Those kids grew up, and now they have the convenience of relatively cheap game consoles or a gaming PC. The kids of today's world also have that option, so there's no need for them to go to an arcade either.

MadVybz

That is true. I remember back in the day there was an arcade in every mall. Now they are few and far between. There is an arcade in 2 of my local malls, a Chuck E Cheese (I don't count that) near our establishment, A Dave & Busters a few miles away as well. Past that its FECs (Family Entertainment Centers, I>E. Mini Golf, Go Kart, Batting Cages, Arcade all in one type of deals) and those are pretty few and farbetween as well. But yes, the arcades of the 80s and 90s have mostly dissapeared. I think its partially do to the machine industry itself. These units aren't cheap. The machines in my 3,000 Sq ft game room cost around a quarter of a mil and we have 47 units. Think our most expensive machine was the Big Bass Wheel and that comes in right around 13k

I was actually going to move on to that for a double post, but you beat me to it. :P

They are indeed expensive, and for what they cost and with the conditions of today's market, they're hardly profitable. And to actually formulate an answer to the TC; Peripherals don't have a place to call home. The arcades are close to a bust, and those with consoles at home apparently don't want them either (Unless they have a Wii, which is a peripheral in itself when you think about it).

Actually, with the Wii in mind, peripherals are in the strongest position they've ever been in, are they not? It's more 360 and PS3 owners that are complaining about them.

Until Activision milked the genre to death, music games with big, expensive plastic peripherals were popular across all platforms so I don't believe all PS3/X360 owners have a problem with peripherals. But you are right, the love of Wii owners for peripherals outshines that of any other group of gamers.

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#23 92GreenYJ
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in answer to the above (dont feel like cutting quotes apart) I still really think that has to do with the fact that the majority of Wii peripherals can be used on multiple games. I.E. the guns or Wii Wheel. Sure there are quite a few out there that dont and some that are just plain stupid (Maraca attachment comes to mind) but some are actually well done.