Please explain, what's wrong with Halo?

People hate popular things.Hinata237

The game is nowhere bad, its just... avarage, yet its completely over-hyped. Kniterait

1. Go to the forum title System Wars

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[QUOTE="Kniterait"]The game is nowhere bad, its just... avarage, yet its completely over-hyped. FoodThing00

[QUOTE="FoodThing00"][QUOTE="Kniterait"]The game is nowhere bad, its just... avarage, yet its completely over-hyped. monkeytoes61

I dont think theres anything wrong with halo, but i just think its really over-rated.. Halo 1 was pretty cool, and even halo 2 was fun.. but halo 3 imo was average at best.. im gonna write a reveiw for it soon, and i wouldnt give it higher then a 7.0

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[QUOTE="FoodThing00"][QUOTE="Kniterait"]The game is nowhere bad, its just... avarage, yet its completely over-hyped. FoodThing00

Well, you're being pretty vague there. I too could take an average FPS and say it's story is thoughtful and gameplay is addictive without going into detail.

Anyways the game is a really average game that at best deserves a rental. The story is cliché and pretty boring as well, You are Master Chief, a super AI called Cortana is inside your head, your ship the Pillar of Autumn is invaded by aliens and crashes onto the ringworld Halo, you must find Captain Keyes, you find Captain Keyes, you find out what Halo does, Captain Keyes dies, you blow up Halo. Not what you'd call interesting at all, it's you typical video game story, which isn't a bad thing since in Gaming the story compliments the gameplay (unlike games like Metal Gear Solid) yet it is praised for being one of the best game stories. The actual gameplay is of the usual FPS kind, except the levels are big, you occasionally operate vehicles, and the gameplay mechanics have been streamlined for quickness (2 weapons, 2 grenades). The level design is atrocious, Bungie simply copied and pasted levels together (a good example is The Library) and as mentioned before the levels are big which results in boredom through out the whole game, in fact out of the 7 or so levels, I think 4 of them took place in the same environment, only slighted modified (The snow level where you had to go back track). Everything about the game is so generic that it's hard to look at some things, the look of the marines, the look of your guns, the whole plot, the look of the levels. Let's also not forget that you fought the same 4 types of enemies the whole game.

Onto the multiplayer side, once again, pretty average. Out of the 10 maps in game, you end up only playing 2 the most. Why would you play this when there are much better multiplayer games out there? And considering how this game was originally for the Xbox, there was no online so realistically you could only have up to 4 players and the maps were way to big for only 4 people with no options for bots to liven up the experience.

And seeing as how this game is incredibly over-hyped and sells a tremendous amount, some can't help but ask why? The answer is usually very vague, so that doesn't help at all.

Not Master Chief. Cortana, Sgt. Johnson, Fohammer, ect. The story was more than super soldiers. It was about a chance discovery of a weapon that could wipe out the existance of life. It was about the existance of the human race, and it was done better than most sci fi stories. monkeytoes61

Wait, before I make my response let me say I don't own a xbox or a 360 and have had limited playtime with the Halo series. I know like nothing about the Halo storyline than what you just said.

So with that out of the way, your basically saying X thing happened (in this case a weapon was found) and now the human race might go bye bye? That is the story like 80% of RPGs (maybe games in general) are based on. Bad guy wants to make world go kaboom, good guy wants to stop him.

Sounds ultra boring.

The gameplay bores me. Its shallow. You run and gun, run and gun, pump more and more rounds. There's nothing to it, no tactics at all..

The story was good?

I thought it was miserable.

Well, to be fair, I thought Mass Effect's and Bioshock's story's sucked too.

Im a complete story critic. A videogame story and atmosphere have to be incredible, or else, Im turned off.

Halo is a generic FPS, its not that its bad, its just that it doesnt do anything different.

The one thing I don't like is that there is a number of stuff that's been in other FPS. Like multiplayer matches with vehicles for example, yet many Halo fans (that I've met) act like it's the first game to ever do that.

The story is one of the things that a Halo fan and I agreed on, which was we'd read some of the books if we wanted the story since they seemed to be more indepth than the game's were (Halo 1 and 2 at that point). Unfortunately the only Halo book I've read has been the "Fall of Reach", which if the other's are as good as it I'll get them at some point.

I don't really like Halo not because it's bad, but just that I don't like FPS on consoles that much. If I had a decent PC I'd probably get Halo, just for the online play though.

The gameplay bores me. Its shallow. You run and gun, run and gun, pump more and more rounds. There's nothing to it, no tactics at all..

The story was good?

I thought it was miserable.

Well, to be fair, I thought Mass Effect's and Bioshock's story's sucked too.

Im a complete story critic. A videogame story and atmosphere have to be incredible, or else, Im turned off.

Halo is a generic FPS, its not that its bad, its just that it doesnt do anything different.

Shmiity

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The gameplay bores me. Its shallow. You run and gun, run and gun, pump more and more rounds. There's nothing to it, no tactics at all..

The story was good?

I thought it was miserable.

Well, to be fair, I thought Mass Effect's and Bioshock's story's sucked too.

Im a complete story critic. A videogame story and atmosphere have to be incredible, or else, Im turned off.

Halo is a generic FPS, its not that its bad, its just that it doesnt do anything different.

monkeytoes61

Lets put on some skulls while at it.

Originality. But, you should use the System Wars Forums for this discussion.Thiago26792

I must confess that I've never particularly liked topics where someone comes in and says "please tell me why (game) is (good/bad)". Then certain people will predictably show up proclaiming that everyone's just (following the crowd/bashing it because it's popular) and absolutely nothing anyone says (in favor of/against) (game) will convince the topic creator that (game) is, in fact, (good/bad). It just seems like a fundamentally pointless endeavor.

I have never liked Halo because it just seemed boring, unimaginative, and unimmersive. I tried very hard to get into it on multiple times because I kept hearing repeatedly how great it was, but it just didn't happen. And maybe the multiplayer was great, but I don't really know or care, because I rarely play games multiplayer, and multiplayer is certainly rarely a selling point in itself for a game for me.

And evidently you disagree. That's fine. Everyone has different tastes in life. Just don't expect people to convince you of theirs, and don't expect to convince others of yours.

It's not all cliche if you have read the novels.monkeytoes61

If reading the novels is somehow a requirement then the game has simply failed, it's as simple as that. Halo's storyline is nothing special, it's kind of interesting, but the execution is horrible. I found Halo: Combat Evolved a barely average FPS with terrible copy/paste level design and unresponsive vehicle controls. However, I really enjoyed Halo 2 because it fixed everything I had a problem with in the original - varied level design, tightened on-foot controls, awesome vehicle segments...it felt like an actual game instead of a string of large insanely bland maps.

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]It's not all cliche if you have read the novels.UpInFlames

If reading the novels is somehow a requirement then the game has simply failed, it's as simple as that. Halo's storyline is nothing special, it's kind of interesting, but the execution is horrible. I found Halo: Combat Evolved a barely average FPS with terrible copy/paste level design and unresponsive vehicle controls. However, I really enjoyed Halo 2 because it fixed everything I had a problem with in the original - varied level design, tightened on-foot controls, awesome vehicle segments...it felt like an actual game instead of a string of large insanely bland maps.

Since you always play games on pc, do you always find problems with the game's specs considering that the pc plays them better? and game devs are always binded by consoles specs so the games might not meets your expectations in that case.

Since you always play games on pc, do you always find problems with the game's specs considering that the pc plays them better? and game devs are always binded by consoles specs so the games might not meets your expectations in that case.gamingqueen

I play console games, too. I've played both Halo and Halo 2 on Xbox.

1st : It´s the XBox´s Flagship and sells like crazy.If this whould be a Multi-Platform-Series not even the half of the people whould complain.

2nd: Halo 2 was,even if the gameplay was great,a really,really,REALLY big disappointment.Awfully short (2 not really long evenings) and the often-shown Demo contained a level why I personally started playing Halo 2 in the first place and it was left out.

3rd: Halo 3 was still missing the Level I wanted to play (BTW the big Alien-Attack on Earth) and even if it was a good game,they left too much out that the gamers wanted to see.But I have to admit,the gameplay of the single-player was great and a lot better balanced then in Part 1+2.But I think they should finally fix some stuff in the MP or I never touch it again.CoD4´s MP is A LOT better and I´m not that much into the CoD-series before...

are you guys kidding? the multiplayer is fantastic i dont know what you're problem is. that alone makes the game worth its price so whatever single player complaints you have are useless-SiiLeNCE-

multiplayer is alright, there r little kids yell into the mic, swear their asses off.

the story is meh, there r better storylines out there.

halo 3 didn't bring anything new to the game... with the multiplayer is the same. sure theres new weapons but nothing realy different.

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Not Master Chief. Cortana, Sgt. Johnson, Fohammer, ect. The story was more than super soldiers. It was about a chance discovery of a weapon that could wipe out the existance of life. It was about the existance of the human race, and it was done better than most sci fi stories. zoradude

Wait, before I make my response let me say I don't own a xbox or a 360 and have had limited playtime with the Halo series. I know like nothing about the Halo storyline than what you just said.

So with that out of the way, your basically saying X thing happened (in this case a weapon was found) and now the human race might go bye bye? That is the story like 80% of RPGs (maybe games in general) are based on. Bad guy wants to make world go kaboom, good guy wants to stop him.

Sounds ultra boring.

are you guys kidding? the multiplayer is fantastic i dont know what you're problem is. that alone makes the game worth its price so whatever single player complaints you have are useless-SiiLeNCE-

As Yahtzee said of Halo 3, that only counts if you're the type to play games for their multiplayer.

I didn't find Halo's multiplayer to be all that engaging anyway; I only played it because my friend kept playing it and wanting me to join him. Once he lost interest, I quickly stopped. It's not bad, but there are so many things I found more enjoyable that I didn't see why I ought to continue playing something I found merely mediocre.

Well if that sounds ultra boring then so should every other game were whom you play as the main protagonist. Every game rips off something from another game, like for example Half-life's plot synapses is basically an elaborate version of Doom,(secret base where something goes wrong with an experimental device then bad guys come out and you the silent protagonist have to stop them) but that didn't stop the game from being awesome, right?
tader-salad

I never found Doom or HL to have a super interesting plot... so maybe. But I don't mind good guy vs. bad guy for the sake of humanity at all as long as you have some interesting characters at a minimum... which like I said I can't really speak for Halo's characters since I have not played the game but the majority opinion in this thread seems to be the characters overall were pretty bland through the series.

A great example would be from the last game I beat and what I am working on now. Shining Force and Mario and Luigi: Partners in time have a lot in common for the story. Bad guy here wants to take over the world blah blah blah, but surprisingly enough I find M&L more interesting than Shining Force in the story department. Why? Mario and Luigi are hilarious throughout the game! Funny things happen and they can keep my attention. The chars in Shinging Force never talk, nothing happens. Heck NPCs throughout the game treat your silent protagonist like he is the only person traveling around doing stuff.

Just that difference seperates 2 games with similar stories for me. Like I have said 2 or 3 times now I haven't played the Halo games I was just making that statement from the people in this thread that didn't reek of fanboyness and can make complete and coherent statements.

I never understood Halo. Or Halo fanboys, for that matter. I'm not against it BECAUSE it's popular, it just boggles my mind how super huge the franchise actually is. I did finally play through Halo a year or two ago, and while it was pretty good at times, it was overall an annoying game.

The things that stuck out most in my mind are that the gameplay was pretty much the same throughout the entire game... not really many new weapons, the maps were recycled/looped to increase the longevity of the game (this is obvious, you would go to one room, clear a bunch of enemies, go to a bridge, clear a bunch of enemies, go to the same style of room with more enemies, than another bridge of the exact same type... same with the Spark/Flood level. Pretty much the same thing for over an hour. And lastly, the Flood were the worst.

Now the thing about Halo I understand the LEAST is why so many people say Halo 1 is great and Halo 2 is crap. Halo 2 had some VERY interesting level design, always a new locale and very rich and different areas.. some of them were awe inspiring. Not to mention all sorts of different weapons and such. I think Halo 2 is BY FAR the better game, and I have yet to play through Halo 3 since my disc is scratched and unreadable, but I think that's what separates me from understanding the genre. I found no particular appeal to the first Halo.

While the subsequent sequels have gotten better about this, the thing that irritated me most about the level design in the original game is that they would copy and paste a room 50 times and call it a level.UT_Wrestler

People hate popular things.Hinata237

There are numerous reasons I didn't like the original halo:

1. Bungie should be banned from using copy and paste for the good of humanity. Never have I seen such repetive level design in a popular FPS. And worse still, they make you go back through them all... ugh...

2. A tank where you can freely shoot the driver... what genius engineer thought that was a good idea? Maybe good for gameplay, but a gloriously stupid premise in a game.

3. Really stupid vehichle controls.

Anyway, I don't claim these to be truths, they are my oppinions, which clearly lots don't share, but it's the reason I never could get into halo.

I have always wondered, why people hate the game so much? I always figured it was people who thought they were cool for going against the hype, but maybe it's something else. After playing through the games, I just can't understand what's to hate. Capturing story, outstanding gameplay, great characters, it's all there. Can someone explain just why you hate it so much. I'm not a fanboy, I'm just wondering.monkeytoes61

I think a lot of it is anti-hype. I'm with you, all three are great games. Not as great as Megan Fox, but great still.

I gotta Question!Is it just me or became the Halo 3-MP more and more problems after a while?Ok,Match finding is one thing,but in the Game I seen so many people NOT dying from a Full-Magazine-Clip on the Head...I don´t think it was that bad in the beginning...I really loved the MP first,but since some people are just using the same tricks over and over again I got bored (Using a Vehicle,walk back-and-forth between a undestrucktable wall with a shotgun...)

Capturing story, outstanding gameplay, great characters, it's all there.monkeytoes61

See, there's where you're wrong. The game has the gameplay, but it's downright awful in story and characters.