Rape in game, is it OK ?

Ethically? Obviously, no.

Whether or not if it's OK to be in the game itself, however. It depends. If done right, it could offer all sorts of things when it comes to story or character development.

You mean where you the main player is raping another character? No absolutely not ok. That would be disgusting and I can't think how any game like that would be perceived as being ok.Archangel3371

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]You mean where you the main player is raping another character? No absolutely not ok. That would be disgusting and I can't think how any game like that would be perceived as being ok.Zensword

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]You mean where you the main player is raping another character? No absolutely not ok. That would be disgusting and I can't think how any game like that would be perceived as being ok.Zensword

It depends on the context. As a plot device, rape is a tremendous tool in a revenge movie. Think back to Deliverance or I Spit On Your Grave, which didn't just feature rape, but brutal rape. However, the idea behind showing the brutality was to elicit a connection between the viewer and the protagonist(s) when the revenge scenes came.

As the player doing the raping? Nope.

As the player doing the raping? Nope.Shame-usBlackley

It is entirely OK, it is almost a mainstray in movies and books, it is distasteful, and in my mind unwanted, but if it can be in moveis and books, then no way shall games hear me complain, I do not have that bad double standards.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]As the player doing the raping? Nope.Zensword

Murder and killing is ok to do IN A VIDEOGAME, NOT IN REAL LIFE. I do not approve murder or killing anyone in real-life.

Rape, on the other hand, is different. It shouldn't be done in real-life and it shouldn't be done in a videogame by anyone at anytime.

In what sick world would anybody actually want to rape something in a game?

I think it's fine if it's part of the story and not just thrown in there to be controversial, but other than that, I think not.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]As the player doing the raping? Nope.Zensword

Eh, ok... I'm okay with that. Perhaps if I was a judge it would matter if I were more fair, or if I was a saint I'd give a fuc* what you think about me.

No the depiction of rape in a videogame is never O.K.

it is the same as every single rape in every movie. i don't see the problem

in b4 raping simulators by the media

it is the same as every single rape in every movie. i don't see the problem

in b4 raping simulators by the media

Krelian-co

rape is in movies, books and even music at times + its a real thing that does and can happen = yes I'm fine with it. People kill me with all this is rape okay nonsense. Rape happens it exits and many amazing stories have been told that have rape in them. I mean its like some people take it personally or something. Now if its used in a childish manner than sure its silly but it can be used in a mature, compelling way and be tasteful within reason. For example, Precious instantly pops out. Nobody goes crying about the movie which has a pretty bad instance of rape. Games are just unfairly held to a different standard than everything else and its shame. If video games are going to continue to evolve we really need to give the medium the same freedom we give everything. Otherwise the story telling in games will never go beyond the likes of say COD.

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it is the same as every single rape in every movie. i don't see the problem

in b4 raping simulators by the media

almasdeathchild

And laggy.

It's only OK in the right context, like The Last of Us is going to have a rape (or attempted rape) scence with the girl Ellie, however you come to rescue her and stop it. Something like that is OK with the concept of the story.

However if it's where the main character is raping someone then no that is NOT alright at all. I wouldn't be comfortable playing a game like that, and I think anyone who would want to play that game needs to get their head checked.

Everybody seems ok with murder in gaming and not rape, yet I've not seen one coherent argument as to why to former is acceptable and the latter is not. As Shame-us pointed out, I think it's entirely dependant on context. The same with killing. I found Manhunt a disgusting, pointless game as the only reason to play was to kill. I'd feel the same way about a game where the only reason was to rape for the sake of it. Put them both in context, and it changes. I don't see a difference.

It's only OK in the right context, like The Last of Us is going to have a rape (or attempted rape) scence with the girl Ellie, however you come to rescue her and stop it. Something like that is OK with the concept of the story.

However if it's where the main character is raping someone then no that is NOT alright at all. I wouldn't be comfortable playing a game like that, and I think anyone who would want to play that game needs to get their head checked.

ShadowMoses900

If it adds to the story sure why not picture a game where the main character is a female at the start of the game you see someone about to rape her and then it cuts off and the rest of the game is just a revenge story. I mean if they do it in movies why not in games?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's only OK in the right context, like The Last of Us is going to have a rape (or attempted rape) scence with the girl Ellie, however you come to rescue her and stop it. Something like that is OK with the concept of the story.

However if it's where the main character is raping someone then no that is NOT alright at all. I wouldn't be comfortable playing a game like that, and I think anyone who would want to play that game needs to get their head checked.

Zensword

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's only OK in the right context, like The Last of Us is going to have a rape (or attempted rape) scence with the girl Ellie, however you come to rescue her and stop it. Something like that is OK with the concept of the story.

However if it's where the main character is raping someone then no that is NOT alright at all. I wouldn't be comfortable playing a game like that, and I think anyone who would want to play that game needs to get their head checked.

Zensword

In games your just shooting dumb cartoon characters. Rape is a totally different matter and one that the industry should NOT put into a game, at least not with the main character engaging in such acts.

You have to be a real sicko to want to play a rape game.

It depends on the context. As a plot device, rape is a tremendous tool in a revenge movie. Think back to Deliverance or I Spit On Your Grave, which didn't just feature rape, but brutal rape. However, the idea behind showing the brutality was to elicit a connection between the viewer and the protagonist(s) when the revenge scenes came.

As the player doing the raping? Nope.

Shame-usBlackley

Don't forget Ms. 45, Night Train Murders, Irreversible, The Last House On The Left (I don't really like this one due to the stupid comedy bits but it is a very important piece of horror cinema) or even A Serbian Film (This one is much more extreme and grotesque but it still counts). All of those showed rape as something awful that not only damages the body but also the mind and it allows the audience to feel empathy for the victims.

Also, Phantasmagoria, I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream, Silent Hill 2, F.E.A.R. 2 and No More Heroes do reference rape so it's been done before.

lol not only do you want to rape, but kinect style! lol

I will say though killing in game IS different. It's based on a skill/reward system. Kill this many bad guys and you complete the level, essentially. Pointing and shooting is a dynamic activity. Rape would just be a series of quick time events, unrewarding and cheap thrills that would get old fast. If you actually want to mime the motions then you ARE sick.

Eh, I don't know. It's a touchy subject. I do feel that devs should be able to do whatever they want with their games, but this is kind of pushing it. At the same time, though, gamers here defend games like Postal 2 to no end yet this is somehow crossing the line? I suppose if the game is rated AO then... I'll reluctantly say "fine".

I would never approve of rape in a game, ever.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]As the player doing the raping? Nope.Zensword

If it was used in some kind of enhancement of the narrative or had a bigger impact than simply shock value then I suppose if executed well it would be OK.

If it's like Silent Hill 2 then....no...just...no....

I think it's ok for rape to be a part of the main story as long as its handled in a mature and respectful way.

Having a game where the main character rapes someone is jsut wrong though. I don't see how it could be justified in any situation.

But again, I see no reason for it not to be handled. There have been a few games that have handled it very realistically and maturely like Silent Hill 2.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]As the player doing the raping? Nope.Zensword

Because making blanket statements that ignore context totally makes for a valid argument.

Rape is a very intimate and destructive act. It blends the maturity of sex with the soullessness of torture. It's an act that violates the body and twists the mind. It creates fear, anxiety and anguish, among other emotions. And to top it all off, the act is very personal: it's not something you can do to an anonymous person. You have to be able to look that person in the face, see the abject horror in their eyes, and still be able to go through with it.

Killing, by contrast, can be (and often is) very detached. Killing a person takes no more than a couple seconds before it's over. The pain exists, then leaves quickly. Yes, snuffing out a life is horrible, but it's easy to do it in video games in a way that makes the player comepletely detached from their actions.

Not to mention rape takes a hell of a lot longer. How many popular games have you seen where killing anybody is slow, painful, and gruesome? I would bet extremely few, if any at all. Because it becomes too real at that point. Similarly, making a 10-20 minute rape scene is going to make things waaaayyy too real for anybody to play.

All that aside, what's the point in allowing the player to play out a rape scene? Yes, rape can be a tool for storytelling in some stories, but actively playing it out? What's the purpose of that? I would challenge anybody to come up with a single logical and non-creepy reason that a developer could possibly have in making the player act out a rape scene.

an atempted rape would be OK. P.S. Playing that game with Kinect would be fun :lol:Zensword

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