Reviews are not Fair

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#1 schwabdizzle
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So I got this Idea the other day. Why do people always compare games to one another. For example, people on the xbox forums ask which is better COD4 or Assassins Creed? Well, the answer is they are 2 different games. Reviews do the same thing. For example 1up.com, they gave HALO 3 a 10/10 and Mario Galaxy 9.5/10. Ones a FPS obviously the other is a Platformer. I just wanna say one thing, If Mario Galaxy is the Best platform game of all time don't you think it deserves a 10 as well. The problems with reviews is they need to compare games to other games in the same genre and base thier ratings off of that. That way its a fair review. Halo 3 in my opinion did not deserve a 10 in a market that is crowded with FPS'.I know there had to be alot of fanboyism towards Halo cause it got better ratings than COD4 which is a much better game with a way deeper multiplayer. So heres my challenge to all you game reviewers: Rate your games according to the genre that they are in compared to rating it aginst everything else. That way its a more accurate review and way more fare as well.
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#2 LordAndrew
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I believe that's what GameSpot does. It's the readers who decide to compare the scores.
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You can't say that reviews are unfair simply because they are not in line with your own opinions. However, I do agree with one point you may have alluded to: it's very difficult and unwise to use gamescores to compare games to each other. They're not intended to be used that way. And saying game A is better than game B because it scored 0.1 points higher at a review site is just foolish.
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#4 schwabdizzle
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I hope they do FPS reviews need to be comared to other FPS on the market, platformers to platformers and so on. It real hard to say where these reviewers come up with thier scores. I do know thier are some reviewers out there that will give a game an unfair review if it isnt a FPS and thats a ton of crap

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#5 capthavic
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Reviews are just an opinion so get over it.

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#6 Lostboy1224
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Halo 3 a 10/10? I didn't see that one coming....... (end of sarcasm)

Even if you took all the "best" games of each genre people would still disagree on what game is better and which one is more deserving of the 10/10.

I wish they would just go to a association format, such using words and not numbers to describe the game.

Example: Poor, Average, Good, Great, Excellent

I think it was Game Pro who used this method a little, but I think they still used numbers in their reviews too.

Maybe break it up into two categories when you have multi-player/on-line options. Example: Single Player Game : Good, Multi-player Game: Excellent, and then describe the pros and cons of each. But what ever it all really doesn't matter in the end anyways right, just ask the guys who loved Star Wars Revenge of the Sith game.

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#7 CSI_Mac_Taylor
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75% of reviews are by fanboys
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#8 GamingBoy2009
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Most reviews are opinions and I see nothing wrong with that. I have no problem with Gamespots reviewing. If you disagree with the review, Gamespot provides a player review system so you can review it yourself.
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#9 SapSacPrime
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Meh I love jrpg (although the last one I played was FFXII and a bit rubbish) and to be honest reviews differ hugely because if you can get into the story you will love it, if not (and I realise a lot of people just can't) then you completely miss the point and dislike the game. Its probably for this reason I have learned to read between the lines with reviews and ignore scores as much as possible, after all surely I am a better judge of what I would potentially like than a number designated by a stranger.

So back to your point, yes I agree that comparisons in that genre can help somewhat because if I enjoyed game X a comparison to it will let me know the chance I will enjoy the game being reviewed.

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You can't say that reviews are unfair simply because they are not in line with your own opinions. However, I do agree with one point you may have alluded to: it's very difficult and unwise to use gamescores to compare games to each other. They're not intended to be used that way. And saying game A is better than game B because it scored 0.1 points higher at a review site is just foolish. sonicare

You got it. The review is for the game not the comparison.

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#11 Kniterait
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So I got this Idea the other day. Why do people always compare games to one another. For example, people on the xbox forums ask which is better COD4 or Assassins Creed? Well, the answer is they are 2 different games. Reviews do the same thing. For example 1up.com, they gave HALO 3 a 10/10 and Mario Galaxy 9.5/10. Ones a FPS obviously the other is a Platformer. I just wanna say one thing, If Mario Galaxy is the Best platform game of all time don't you think it deserves a 10 as well. The problems with reviews is they need to compare games to other games in the same genre and base thier ratings off of that. That way its a fair review. Halo 3 in my opinion did not deserve a 10 in a market that is crowded with FPS'.I know there had to be alot of fanboyism towards Halo cause it got better ratings than COD4 which is a much better game with a way deeper multiplayer. So heres my challenge to all you game reviewers: Rate your games according to the genre that they are in compared to rating it aginst everything else. That way its a more accurate review and way more fare as well. schwabdizzle

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#12 super_slonik
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Review is just an opinion. like yesterday so many people were pissed off because of GS's review of Kane&Lynch, but so many people loved that game. I personally dont care if Mario galaxy gets lower/higher score than Halo 3, ill be playing 'em both.
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#13 redchina
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I think reviews are fair.

Ilike tolook at an overall consensus of reviews, not just gamespot or ign.

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#14 ReggieWhite2
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Reviews are all subjective anyway. 9.5 for Super Mario Galaxy is an extremly good score, but I must admit you reaction to the score has been handled much better than some of the other forumites on this site.
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#15 OtakuRay
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That why GS let us make our reviews and them you can see the stadistics about all players opinions. After that, make your own opipinion if a game is good or not. Sometimes I don't care if a review or people say that a game is bad or good. I play it and if it likes me then no problems.
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#17 Roris0A
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Like others have said the sites like gamespot, ign etc just review the games and from there the fanboys and general gaming nerdom compare the scores. And aye I don't like it either and I generally ignore it. But I have seen some gaming journalism cave into this. For example gamepro did a segment on which game was better - halo 3 or call of duty 4. Just think about the basics of gaming and why your playing it - because it's fun and that's that. I've been looking for a site that just gives a "thumps up or down" for games and doesn't pick them apart like everyone does today. That would elminate alot of fanboyism I think if every site used that consensus.
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#18 Mr_Mohawk
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Never trust any review from a magazine if it is only for 1 system. there is a 99% chance that said magazine is run by a bunch of fanboys.

In general, I think that reviews do reflect the games fairly, as even someone writing a review for an FPS, even if they don't like FPSs in general, can tell if the specific example is a good one or not. Don't get obsessed with metacritic or equivalent, as an EDGE 7 doesn't necessarily mean the same as a gamesmaster 7.

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#19 feel_freetwo
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deeper doesnt mean better. although i dont like to sing halo's praises, it is a very simple game (its over compilcating itself now sadly) but its simpilcity that makes it good, just like mario, its good because its simple. games should never get a 10. halo 3 is certianly one of these games which shouldnt have a 10, every online multiplayer map is badly designed, they even made the fun of the elephants some what pointless.