Rumor: 6 GB of Game Ram and 2 GB of System Ram for the X720

The X360's XBL is the only system where one can has an always on external, independent chat system and the speculation is MS wants to do the same thing for externals aps, which would of course including non-gaming stuff, but could also include video chat, game screenshots, game recording and even streaming of games.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/digitalfoundry-the-os-factor

Also, expect both Sony and Microsoft to bolster the ability to share in-game video and screenshot assets in their next-gen hardware. Most high-end GPUs these days have hardware video encoders built-in and this functionality is a natural fit for next-gen consoles: players may even be able to livestream their own gameplay. An onboard video encoder would have useful, if rather more mundane uses too: the same tech could be used to re-encode downloaded video to beam across to other devices for example, and even power videochat during gameplay (don't forget that MS now owns Skype). On a more practical level, the ability to merge OS-level programs and gameplay could allow for strategy guides to become far more contextual in nature, offering up in-game maps and video based on your actual level of progress.

As a point of reference, if true the X720 would have 6x the game RAM of the Wii U and twice the system RAM.

Lot of potential for enhanced game performance if true. Six gigs of RAM dedicated to games alone is a massive step up from what consoles have now. Can only imagine what developers could do with that sort of power.

I have serious doubts about this rumour but I would love if it was true. The potential for the games that could be developed on these consoles is enormous.

That being said, I don't believe it will happen. Realistically, I think we'll maybe see at the most 6 GBs combined - perhaps 2 for the OS and 4 for the games.

The X360's XBL is the only system where one can has an always on external, independent chat system and the speculation is MS wants to do the same thing for externals aps, which would of course including non-gaming stuff, but could also include video chat, game screenshots, game recording and even streaming of games.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/digitalfoundry-the-os-factor

Also, expect both Sony and Microsoft to bolster the ability to share in-game video and screenshot assets in their next-gen hardware. Most high-end GPUs these days have hardware video encoders built-in and this functionality is a natural fit for next-gen consoles: players may even be able to livestream their own gameplay. An onboard video encoder would have useful, if rather more mundane uses too: the same tech could be used to re-encode downloaded video to beam across to other devices for example, and even power videochat during gameplay (don't forget that MS now owns Skype). On a more practical level, the ability to merge OS-level programs and gameplay could allow for strategy guides to become far more contextual in nature, offering up in-game maps and video based on your actual level of progress.

As a point of reference, if true the X720 would have 6x the game RAM of the Wii U and twice the system RAM.

CarnageHeart

I'm not a hardcore geek or anything like that, so in other words, this is a positive thing for gamers overall?

All over my face.

I'm not a hardcore geek or anything like that, so in other words, this is a positive thing for gamers overall?

Metamania

The 360 has 512MB of RAM right now and look at all the things it can do.

Imagine if it had 2GB allocated just for the dashboard, you can potentially run ESPN, Hulu and all other XBL apps in the background while you play games.

As for games, RAM is where developers temporarily store all the textures, game world objects and other things they need on the fly. So with 6GB of RAM, they can offload the entire world of Skyrim in the RAM meaning you will likely never have to wait for loading screens where it loads from the DVD/Bluray/HDD again. Most open world games allow for streaming techniques but you see a clear hit in graphics when compared to linear games because the RAM in current gen consoles simply cant hold that many high res textures. Next gen open world games will look stunning thanks to this much RAM.

That said, console RAM is expensive and 8GB of RAM will likely cost MS around $60-$80 per console. Unless they are planning on selling a $500 console, it's simply not going to happen.

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

I'm not a hardcore geek or anything like that, so in other words, this is a positive thing for gamers overall?

S0lidSnake

The 360 has 512MB of RAM right now and look at all the things it can do.

Imagine if it had 2GB allocated just for the dashboard, you can potentially run ESPN, Hulu and all other XBL apps in the background while you play games.

As for games, RAM is where developers temporarily store all the textures, game world objects and other things they need on the fly. So with 6GB of RAM, they can offload the entire world of Skyrim in the RAM meaning you will likely never have to wait for loading screens where it loads from the DVD/Bluray/HDD again. Most open world games allow for streaming techniques but you see a clear hit in graphics when compared to linear games because the RAM in current gen consoles simply cant hold that many high res textures. Next gen open world games will look stunning thanks to this much RAM.

That said, console RAM is expensive and 8GB of RAM will likely cost MS around $60-$80 per console. Unless they are planning on selling a $500 console, it's simply not going to happen.

Wow. Thank you for explaining all that to me.

That is just AMAZING. Let's hope it is true. What I hope is not true is them selling the console at $500 (and I'm convinced they won't sell it that high of a price).

Highly doubtful.

Everyone knows Microsoft doesn't care about games anymore. :P

More like 5 gigs of video RAM (2 for streaming commercials), 2 for Kinect, and 1 for games.

That said, console RAM is expensive and 8GB of RAM will likely cost MS around $60-$80 per console. Unless they are planning on selling a $500 console, it's simply not going to happen.S0lidSnake

It's possible. Could very use multiple SKUs to get a $500 version out at launch to cover the costs of the RAM. There will probably be enough pack-in accessories to cut from a cheaper $400 version to further help make-up costs.

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]That said, console RAM is expensive and 8GB of RAM will likely cost MS around $60-$80 per console. Unless they are planning on selling a $500 console, it's simply not going to happen.c_rake

It's possible. Could very use multiple SKUs to get a $500 version out at launch to cover the costs of the RAM. There will probably be enough pack-in accessories to cut from a cheaper $400 version to further help make-up costs.

Isnt every 720 going to come packed in with the Kinect 2? That alone is going to jack up the costs.

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[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]That said, console RAM is expensive and 8GB of RAM will likely cost MS around $60-$80 per console. Unless they are planning on selling a $500 console, it's simply not going to happen.S0lidSnake

It's possible. Could very use multiple SKUs to get a $500 version out at launch to cover the costs of the RAM. There will probably be enough pack-in accessories to cut from a cheaper $400 version to further help make-up costs.

Isnt every 720 going to come packed in with the Kinect 2? That alone is going to jack up the costs.

Sounds expensive.

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It's possible. Could very use multiple SKUs to get a $500 version out at launch to cover the costs of the RAM. There will probably be enough pack-in accessories to cut from a cheaper $400 version to further help make-up costs.

CarnageHeart

Isnt every 720 going to come packed in with the Kinect 2? That alone is going to jack up the costs.

You give me hope carnage.

If MS releases a $400 console with no Kinect, id buy it day 1.

It's possible, but MS knows the core isn't sold on motion controls, and I doubt they would cram it down everyone's throat. CarnageHeart

Indeed. Unless they build it into the console itself (which would be crazy), I doubt they'd pack it in with every single new Xbox. Besides, why pack it in when you can sell it separately for another $100 or so?

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It's possible. Could very use multiple SKUs to get a $500 version out at launch to cover the costs of the RAM. There will probably be enough pack-in accessories to cut from a cheaper $400 version to further help make-up costs.

CarnageHeart

Isnt every 720 going to come packed in with the Kinect 2? That alone is going to jack up the costs.

This. Besides that, I don't even have enough space in my room to properly fit a Kinect in. I hope Microsoft doesn't expect everyone to use one with the next Xbox, because that's a problem if they do.

[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]It's possible, but MS knows the core isn't sold on motion controls, and I doubt they would cram it down everyone's throat. c_rake

Indeed. Unless they build it into the console itself (which would be crazy), I doubt they'd pack it in with every single new Xbox. Besides, why pack it in when you can sell it separately for another $100 or so?

If it's released next year, doubtful. That much RAM will cost around a 100$, and unless MS is blind I doubt they would do a "Sony" next gen. I'd say more like 2-4 GB of RAM, some mid range graphics card (mid class nVidia 2xx or 4xx or something like that) quad-core i5-ish processor and 500gb-1tb HDD. All together sold for 400$ at launch probably. chaplainDMK

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]If it's released next year, doubtful. That much RAM will cost around a 100$, and unless MS is blind I doubt they would do a "Sony" next gen. I'd say more like 2-4 GB of RAM, some mid range graphics card (mid class nVidia 2xx or 4xx or something like that) quad-core i5-ish processor and 500gb-1tb HDD. All together sold for 400$ at launch probably. Heirren

Console RAM is faster and more expensive than PC RAM. It wont be a $100 because MS would be buying it in bulk (tens of millions over the course of the next 6-7 years) but it will still be more expensive than PC RAM.

720 is probably how much the fvcking thing is gonna cost.GodModeEnabled

That's how many square feet of space you'll need to use Kinect 2.

I really wish people would stop referring to the next Xbox as "720" like they know that's its official name. Do you realize how stupid you sound? All you're doing is regurgitating what the ignorant masses on the Internet have labeled it.Kravyn81

[QUOTE="Kravyn81"]I really wish people would stop referring to the next Xbox as "720" like they know that's its official name. Do you realize how stupid you sound? All you're doing is regurgitating what the ignorant masses on the Internet have labeled it.Archangel3371

Exactly. What else would we call something that has no name.

Of all the things to b*tch about, this guy picks 720.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]720 is probably how much the fvcking thing is gonna cost.Shame-usBlackley

That's how many square feet of space you'll need to use Kinect 2.

With rising costs everywhere, the premiun xbox 3 :P will retail $449 , don't think MS will be willing to commit the same mistake as the PS3 launch price. Also DoA5 isn't even exclusive, might as make Halo5, Gears 4, Forza 5 multiplatform lol

Lot of potential for enhanced game performance if true. Six gigs of RAM dedicated to games alone is a massive step up from what consoles have now. Can only imagine what developers could do with that sort of power.

c_rake

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[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]720 is probably how much the fvcking thing is gonna cost.Black_Knight_00

That's how many square feet of space you'll need to use Kinect 2.

Haha, yep!

I was beginning to think the reason it was called Xbox 360 was because that was going to be the price of the system forever. Then they dropped it $50 last week, but geez, this thing should be $99 by now...

I was beginning to think the reason it was called Xbox 360 was because that was going to be the price of the system forever. Then they dropped it $50 last week, but geez, this thing should be $99 by now...Shame-usBlackley

I've been thinking they should have called it the Xbox 180 given how much things changed once Kinect arrived.

What the hell is "game RAM"?

What the hell is "game RAM"?-Unreal-

Game consoles use a different type of RAM than computers do. Solid could tell you more, I'm sure.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]I was beginning to think the reason it was called Xbox 360 was because that was going to be the price of the system forever. Then they dropped it $50 last week, but geez, this thing should be $99 by now...c_rake

I've been thinking they should have called it the Xbox 180 given how much things changed once Kinect arrived.

Yeah, it's certainly had that effect on me.

DO NOT WANT.

would be nice to see that in all consoles...but then again i want to be able to afford a next gen system without it cutting too many corners

sounds expensive and bogus , -the wii u only has 1 gig for each the 360 only 512 mb , plus a smaller mb in the edram

i say 1.5 gigs-2 gigs tops , 6 sounds very unlikely

sounds expensive and bogus , -the wii u only has 1 gig for each the 360 only 512 mb , plus a smaller mb in the edram

i say 1.5 gigs-2 gigs tops , 6 sounds very unlikely

mariokart64fan

The X360 is a 7 year old console, and as for the Wii U, Nintendo splurged on the tablet controller ($172 when bought separately) but as they did with the Wii, just sought to make a system who processing power is in the ballpark of last gen systems.

Real or not, it's safe to assume both the PS4 and the new XB will run circles around the Wii U in terms of power.

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sounds expensive and bogus , -the wii u only has 1 gig for each the 360 only 512 mb , plus a smaller mb in the edram

i say 1.5 gigs-2 gigs tops , 6 sounds very unlikely

CarnageHeart

The X360 is a 7 year old console, and as for the Wii U, Nintendo splurged on the tablet controller ($172 when bought separately) but as they did with the Wii, just sought to make a system who processing power is in the ballpark of last gen systems.

I read about this recently and nearly sh** a brick.

I would have much rather they poured that cash into the actual console.

The Wii U could have been a massive leap in terms of power and I would have probably nabbed one on or around launch.

Instead we get something marginally more powerful than current systems and yet another gimmick foisted upon us that won't revolutionize much of anything but rather annoy the piss out of the core gamer.

As much as I'd like that to be true, part of me keeps thinking that console RAM doesn't come cheap and that such a design decision would certainly impact in a big way the final price tag of the system. The 720, if I may say so, to piss off that one dude.

They should get rid of the name Xbox and take a note from Atari and start naming their systems after freakin junglecats. Stay with me here guys... The Microsoft Cheetah! fvck you guyz its awesome.GodModeEnabled

I thought that was Apple's thing now?

They should get rid of the name Xbox and take a note from Atari and start naming their systems after freakin junglecats. Stay with me here guys... The Microsoft Cheetah! fvck you guyz its awesome.GodModeEnabled

I have 8GB on my PC since 2009.

I have 8GB on my PC since 2009.

Ricardomz