Sega would have done better.

If they focused on games and advertising (Mostly for games) then focusing on hardware like they did. I mean if they actually tried getting game support with there console before the NES came out then Nintendo would not have secured (Illegally but secured) all those games Sega never got with the Snes. Thus they ended up with a console of less then 30 games or so.

Not cool.

I don't know what you're talking about.

The Mega Drive got over 900 games and was the dominating system throughout most of its generation. The Super Famicom only surpassed it worldwide until late 94 or so when the MD was already 6 years old.

I don't know what you're talking about.

The Mega Drive got over 900 games and was the dominating system throughout most of its generation. The Super Famicom only surpassed it worldwide until late 94 or so when the MD was already 6 years old.

Panzer_Zwei

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I don't know what you're talking about.

The Mega Drive got over 900 games and was the dominating system throughout most of its generation. The Super Famicom only surpassed it worldwide until late 94 or so when the MD was already 6 years old.

AppleJudgement

That's what I read.

And no SEGA console ever got only 30 games. Even the SG-1000 got around 100 games.

More like read what you're typing, because it still makes no sense to me.

I can't even understand what the question or statement of this topic is......

I don't claim to be a master wordsmith , but I honestly can't understand what was written at the top of the page

Sega are failures... I loved watching them crash and burn after they went out on viscous marketing campaigns against Nintendo... They are the reason for the kiddy label.ThumpyBowser

If they focused on games and advertising (Mostly for games) then focusing on hardware like they did. I mean if they actually tried getting game support with there console before the NES came out then Nintendo would not have secured (Illegally but secured) all those games Sega never got with the Snes. Thus they ended up with a console of less then 30 games or so.

Not cool.

AppleJudgement

lies, lies and lies. the only sega system ever released that had 30 games was 32x. even the sega cd had 220 games released

Sega are failures... I loved watching them crash and burn after they went out on viscous marketing campaigns against Nintendo... They are the reason for the kiddy label.ThumpyBowser

nintendo are the reason for rating games as they were so pathetic back in 93 to go to senate to complain to senators about sega kicking their asses presumably due to violent games (sonic was sega's best selling game by far)

[QUOTE="ThumpyBowser"]Sega are failures... I loved watching them crash and burn after they went out on viscous marketing campaigns against Nintendo... They are the reason for the kiddy label.bultje112

nintendo are the reason for rating games as they were so pathetic back in 93 to go to senate to complain to senators about sega kicking their asses presumably due to violent games (sonic was sega's best selling game by far)

[QUOTE="ThumpyBowser"]Sega are failures... I loved watching them crash and burn after they went out on viscous marketing campaigns against Nintendo... They are the reason for the kiddy label.bultje112

nintendo are the reason for rating games as they were so pathetic back in 93 to go to senate to complain to senators about sega kicking their asses presumably due to violent games (sonic was sega's best selling game by far)

Sega are failures... I loved watching them crash and burn after they went out on viscous marketing campaigns against Nintendo... They are the reason for the kiddy label.ThumpyBowser

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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

I don't know what you're talking about.

The Mega Drive got over 900 games and was the dominating system throughout most of its generation. The Super Famicom only surpassed it worldwide until late 94 or so when the MD was already 6 years old.

Panzer_Zwei

That's what I read.

And no SEGA console ever got only 30 games. Even the SG-1000 got around 100 games.

More like read what you're typing, because it still makes no sense to me.

Sega are failures... I loved watching them crash and burn after they went out on viscous marketing campaigns against Nintendo... They are the reason for the kiddy label.ThumpyBowser

I do understand the hardware portion. Sega just kept trying to get a jump on the market share, which I can understand, but it just never seemed to work for them. Especially with the later consoles.

The Sega Genesis was my go to system, I just grew out of the system. The PSX was a far superior system.

Sega could've been successful if they backed their own hardware up a bit more and stuck with their franchises. I'd say they were a victim of their own laziness, and the DC's proof of that. (lots of arcade games, lack of platformers, some ugly ports etc)

Anyway, Saturn and Genesis were my favorite.

I'd say Sega CD, but I need more of a reason than Solstar.

lazyness?? are you f'n kidding?? sega was totally the opposite of lazy/ they kept making new hardware and new franchises and never milked anything out. they kept renewing and reinventing in every possible way. formats like cd's. hardware, sound, genre's, arcades'the fact we play 3d games now like we do is thanks to sega's lazyness?? sega out of the hardware business real reason is they were ahead of their time constantly. shenmue has a huge cultfollowing now in the days of games like heavy rain but back then people thought it was boring.

SEGA will never produce hardware again. Let SEGA continue with great games as Sonic Generations and hopefully some new IPs.

SEGA will never produce hardware again. Let SEGA continue with great games as Sonic Generations and hopefully some new IPs.

tjricardo089

the sega of today is nothing in terms of greatness or inovation compared to what they were while doing hardware. they had magic. even sega developpers themselves like yu suzuki and yuji naka have said that. it probably will never happen again indeed but that doesn't make it any less ashame

The SEGA brand name might not be as common or renown as it was before in the west, but in Japan is still among the more distinguised ones. Just google "Club SEGA" and you'll see. They have arcade clubs and amusement parks all over Japan. They're practically everywhere among the Japanese video game-related geek culture. Too bad we're at a point where nobody really bothers to bring their arcade hits outside of Japan anymore.

I know that most current gen gamers probably grew up with online gaming and so they most likely never set foot on a game center while they were still popular. But nevertheless I just don't understand how SEGA's most important background always seems to be left out.

The consumer division, the SEGA games and consoles you know, were only their side bussiness really, and were always maintained by the arcade division, always. Even the success of the Sonic games is nothing compared to what games like Virtua Fighter or Daytona USA made for the company at the game centers. While the Saturn was failing in the western market, almost every single arcade game they put out was a huge smash hit.

SEGA and NAMCO are the biggest and more successful arcade companies in history, you just can't ignore a thing like that.

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SEGA will never produce hardware again. Let SEGA continue with great games as Sonic Generations and hopefully some new IPs.

bultje112

the sega of today is nothing in terms of greatness or inovation compared to what they were while doing hardware. they had magic. even sega developpers themselves like yu suzuki and yuji naka have said that. it probably will never happen again indeed but that doesn't make it any less ashame

Hell, what is Konami today? Nothing compared of what they were in previous generations. They barely make any non-arcade games in-house anymore and rely on outsource studios to handle their popular franchises. From what I know they have also in fact disbanded most of their old guard studios.

lazyness?? are you f'n kidding?? sega was totally the opposite of lazy/ they kept making new hardware and new franchises and never milked anything out. they kept renewing and reinventing in every possible way. formats like cd's. hardware, sound, genre's, arcades'the fact we play 3d games now like we do is thanks to sega's lazyness?? sega out of the hardware business real reason is they were ahead of their time constantly. shenmue has a huge cultfollowing now in the days of games like heavy rain but back then people thought it was boring.

bultje112

Dude, are you 13 or what? You probably weren't even around for Sega's consoles. I've played them. Fact. You fail.

The SEGA brand name might not be as common or renown as it was before in the west, but in Japan is still among the more distinguised ones. Just google "Club SEGA" and you'll see. They have arcade clubs and amusement parks all over Japan. They're practically everywhere among the Japanese video game-related geek culture. Too bad we're at a point where nobody really bothers to bring their arcade hits outside of Japan anymore.

I know that most current gen gamers probably grew up with online gaming and so they most likely never set foot on a game center while they were still popular. But nevertheless I just don't understand how SEGA's most important background always seems to be left out.

The consumer division, the SEGA games and consoles you know, were only their side bussiness really, and were always maintained by the arcade division, always. Even the success of the Sonic games is nothing compared to what games like Virtua Fighter or Daytona USA made for the company at the game centers. While the Saturn was failing in the western market, almost every single arcade game they put out was a huge smash hit.

SEGA and NAMCO are the biggest and more successful arcade companies in history, you just can't ignore a thing like that.

Panzer_Zwei

TC, go to Youtube and watch the "Sonic History" segment that came with the Sonic Generations collector's edition DVD. It's a great insight into Sega's obstacles and how they tried to cope with Nintendo's dominance back in the 16-bit era. It even discusses the end of the hardware days with Dreamcast's demise.

Watching it you get the sense that they felt rushed and the only way they could outtake Nintendo was to beat them to the market hardware-wise eveytime. They basically had no other alternative. They were doomed once Sony chipped in from way back in the 32-bit era.

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

lazyness?? are you f'n kidding?? sega was totally the opposite of lazy/ they kept making new hardware and new franchises and never milked anything out. they kept renewing and reinventing in every possible way. formats like cd's. hardware, sound, genre's, arcades'the fact we play 3d games now like we do is thanks to sega's lazyness?? sega out of the hardware business real reason is they were ahead of their time constantly. shenmue has a huge cultfollowing now in the days of games like heavy rain but back then people thought it was boring.

darkdude2k12

Dude, are you 13 or what? You probably weren't even around for Sega's consoles. I've played them. Fact. You fail.

I would buy a next gen system from Sega even if it only had first party titles! I guess if I could ever be considered a "fanboy" it would be to Sega. I grew up playing Sega consoles, starting with the Sega Master System, then graduating to the Genesis, after that It took me a while to save up for a Saturn. My best friend growing up had a NES, and I remember going to his house and having a ball playing it, but I wanted something different. My thinking was If I get a Sega Master System he can come over and play all the good games from Sega, then I can go to his house and play all the good games from Nintendo.I never looked back after the SMS. Games like Shinobi, Pro Wrestling, Reggie Jackson Baseball, Space Harrier 3D, Alex Kidd, Evander Holyfield Boxing, Rastan,etc.. It was also one of the only systems that actuaaly had a hidden game within the system! I think it's hold both buttons and Dpad to the left when you turn it on.

I doubt Sega could have avoided what happened, one way or another.

[QUOTE="ThumpyBowser"]Sega are failures... I loved watching them crash and burn after they went out on viscous marketing campaigns against Nintendo... They are the reason for the kiddy label.gazazi1990

TC, go to Youtube and watch the "Sonic History" segment that came with the Sonic Generations collector's edition DVD. It's a great insight into Sega's obstacles and how they tried to cope with Nintendo's dominance back in the 16-bit era. It even discusses the end of the hardware days with Dreamcast's demise.

Watching it you get the sense that they felt rushed and the only way they could outtake Nintendo was to beat them to the market hardware-wise eveytime. They basically had no other alternative. They were doomed once Sony chipped in from way back in the 32-bit era.

Aero5555

Missed the point of the thread congradulations.AppleJudgement

Point of the thread being that you're mis-informed? Like I said, they had no alternative/option but to focus on besting the competition hardware-wise or face being second place.

And excuse me for linking you to a very insightful piece of video game history.