So is EA just about over with?

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#1 HipHopBeats
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Or is there a chance for redemption? Lol, check this funny video describing EA's recent revenue loss.

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#2 Vari3ty
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I don't like them, but they're not going anywhere. They're still the #2 publisher, and probably soon to be #1.

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#3 brucecambell
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I dont like them either but they're probably the biggest publisher in the world right now. Out of all the publishers they also have the biggest & greatest collection of games under them though.

I cant name a single publisher that has as many great titles & franchises as EA does. EA sucks, but their games rock.

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EA will be fine Switch it to 5 years. Always makes me laugh. Tortanic sure worked well eh EA? They can rot. Everything they get their grubby hands on they end up ruining.
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I loathe all this EA hate, they do not deserve it and did more this generation then any other publisher with close to 2 dozen games at least AA. I did a blog on this, and people are just not aware at all at all the information. It's just blind stupidity.

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I loathe all this EA hate, they do not deserve it and did more this generation then any other publisher with close to 2 dozen games at least AA. I did a blog on this, and people are just not aware at all at all the information. It's just blind stupidity.

immortality20
Yes, yes they do. You either have to be 12, mentally challenged, or work for them to think otherwise.
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I think Madden is going to return to form this year and break some sales records. EA is going to be around as long as the NFL and College Football exist.

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I seriously doubt they're going to drop out anytime soon. Personally I don't really have any problems with them myself as I find they publish a lot of excellent games, many that I've enjoyed.
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#9 Jacanuk
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[QUOTE="immortality20"]

I loathe all this EA hate, they do not deserve it and did more this generation then any other publisher with close to 2 dozen games at least AA. I did a blog on this, and people are just not aware at all at all the information. It's just blind stupidity.

Vangaurdius

Yes, yes they do. You either have to be 12, mentally challenged, or work for them to think otherwise.

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I don't like them, but they're not going anywhere. They're still the #2 publisher, and probably soon to be #1.

Vari3ty
this, except the liking them bit. I like them a lot...they publish great games
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#11 lensflare15
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They'll be fine, people will continue to buy Madden and their other sports games every year, and they have other games that get high reviews as well.

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I loathe all this EA hate, they do not deserve it and did more this generation then any other publisher with close to 2 dozen games at least AA. I did a blog on this, and people are just not aware at all at all the information. It's just blind stupidity.

immortality20

EA publishes excellent games. Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 off the top of my head.

I, too, cant understand the EA hate. Many pc gamers hate EA because of origin and want EA games to be on steam. Well guess what... steam was crap too, before it hit 2-3 years old (buggy mess). Origin is under 1 year old?

And EA gets hate from Bioware's decision about Mass Effect 3 ending...

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#13 BuryMe
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They're not going anywhere.

But if they want more revenue, how about not charging full price for a new sports game every year? If they released a roster update every second year for maybe $20, and a full new game the other years, they might get more money instead of having people pass all together.

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[QUOTE="immortality20"]

I loathe all this EA hate, they do not deserve it and did more this generation then any other publisher with close to 2 dozen games at least AA. I did a blog on this, and people are just not aware at all at all the information. It's just blind stupidity.

Nohtnym

EA publishes excellent games. Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 off the top of my head.

I, too, cant understand the EA hate. Many pc gamers hate EA because of origin and want EA games to be on steam. Well guess what... steam was crap too, before it hit 2-3 years old (buggy mess). Origin is under 1 year old?

And EA gets hate from Bioware's decision about Mass Effect 3 ending...

Exactly, this gaming community has some of the most fickle and ignorant sheeps of any sort of industry. It's sort of like people with anti-American sentiment, they believe everything that they hear. pathetic

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No, they'll be fine. I feel like the more hardcore gamer base is shunning them, however the more casual COD, NFS crowd keeps on coming back for more and more of these rehash titles, keeping EA a very viable company.

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[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

I loathe all this EA hate, they do not deserve it and did more this generation then any other publisher with close to 2 dozen games at least AA. I did a blog on this, and people are just not aware at all at all the information. It's just blind stupidity.

c0kemusheen

EA publishes excellent games. Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 off the top of my head.

I, too, cant understand the EA hate. Many pc gamers hate EA because of origin and want EA games to be on steam. Well guess what... steam was crap too, before it hit 2-3 years old (buggy mess). Origin is under 1 year old?

And EA gets hate from Bioware's decision about Mass Effect 3 ending...

Exactly, this gaming community has some of the most fickle and ignorant sheeps of any sort of industry. It's sort of like people with anti-American sentiment, they believe everything that they hear. pathetic

What the hell are you talking about. You illiterate children don't even know why people are mad. Mass Effect 3 was a terrible game right from the start, and battlefield 3 is simply call of duty with vehicles. They've ruined franchises like Battlefield and Command and Conquer. What made those games great is gone. But you're probably to young to know it. I also don't think you know what sheep means you lemmings. And you probably think people hate America because it's America too. It isn't blind stupidity either, you're just to lazy and unintelligent to actually figure out why people hate them.
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With as many great games as they've published which have sold a lot of copies, i'm kind of confused as to why they are losing money.

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#18 HipHopBeats
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With as many great games as they've published which have sold a lot of copies, i'm kind of confused as to why they are losing money.

hoola

They're losing money from they're hardcore gamer audience. I don't see many casual gamers trying to play games like SWTOR and Mass Effect. Especially with the recent drama with the Hitler style bannings from Star Wars for visting planets under the required level cap and the Mass Effect 3 disappointment. Casual gamers who don't know or care about complex games like Mass Effect will always be happy with another BF and Madden release.

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[QUOTE="c0kemusheen"]

[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

EA publishes excellent games. Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 off the top of my head.

I, too, cant understand the EA hate. Many pc gamers hate EA because of origin and want EA games to be on steam. Well guess what... steam was crap too, before it hit 2-3 years old (buggy mess). Origin is under 1 year old?

And EA gets hate from Bioware's decision about Mass Effect 3 ending...

Vangaurdius

Exactly, this gaming community has some of the most fickle and ignorant sheeps of any sort of industry. It's sort of like people with anti-American sentiment, they believe everything that they hear. pathetic

What the hell are you talking about. You illiterate children don't even know why people are mad. Mass Effect 3 was a terrible game right from the start, and battlefield 3 is simply call of duty with vehicles. They've ruined franchises like Battlefield and Command and Conquer. What made those games great is gone. But you're probably to young to know it. I also don't think you know what sheep means you lemmings. And you probably think people hate America because it's America too. It isn't blind stupidity either, you're just to lazy and unintelligent to actually figure out why people hate them.

You are the leader of hate EA group or something? If you say people dont hate EA, because of Origin and Mass Effect 3 ending. You should maybe read and you would notice people loathe Origin (becuase it has problems now, "EA sucks"). I guess the same people didnt use Steam when it was under 2 years or so. Because it was same buggy mess and had problems like Origin. And origin is about 1 year old.

Also people, in this forums too, blame EA for Bioware's Mass Effect 3 ending.

Battlefield 3 is great game. Excellent successor to battlefield 2.

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[QUOTE="Vangaurdius"][QUOTE="c0kemusheen"]

Exactly, this gaming community has some of the most fickle and ignorant sheeps of any sort of industry. It's sort of like people with anti-American sentiment, they believe everything that they hear. pathetic

Nohtnym

What the hell are you talking about. You illiterate children don't even know why people are mad. Mass Effect 3 was a terrible game right from the start, and battlefield 3 is simply call of duty with vehicles. They've ruined franchises like Battlefield and Command and Conquer. What made those games great is gone. But you're probably to young to know it. I also don't think you know what sheep means you lemmings. And you probably think people hate America because it's America too. It isn't blind stupidity either, you're just to lazy and unintelligent to actually figure out why people hate them.

You are the leader of hate EA group or something? If you say people dont hate EA, because of Origin and Mass Effect 3 ending. You should maybe read and you would notice people loathe Origin (becuase it has problems now, "EA sucks"). I guess the same people didnt use Steam when it was under 2 years or so. Because it was same buggy mess and had problems like Origin. And origin is about 1 year old.

Also people, in this forums too, blame EA for Bioware's Mass Effect 3 ending.

Battlefield 3 is great game. Excellent successor to battlefield 2.

No it's not. And why the hell are you using these forums as a judge for why EA sucks? I already stated why Battlefield 3 is far worse, and with a little bit of research (as in not gamespot and ign) you'd learn why. But then you'd have to leave your precious little bubble of protection here. You can't use the "one year old" argument because somebody else has already done a proper digital distribution platform, and therefor they know what they need to make it work. They ignored that and got deserved anger from the community. And I'm not the leader of some group you idiot. I never said those weren't reasons people dislike EA. Those are just two examples and you ignored the rest.
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[QUOTE="c0kemusheen"]

[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

EA publishes excellent games. Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 off the top of my head.

I, too, cant understand the EA hate. Many pc gamers hate EA because of origin and want EA games to be on steam. Well guess what... steam was crap too, before it hit 2-3 years old (buggy mess). Origin is under 1 year old?

And EA gets hate from Bioware's decision about Mass Effect 3 ending...

Vangaurdius

Exactly, this gaming community has some of the most fickle and ignorant sheeps of any sort of industry. It's sort of like people with anti-American sentiment, they believe everything that they hear. pathetic

What the hell are you talking about. You illiterate children don't even know why people are mad. Mass Effect 3 was a terrible game right from the start, and battlefield 3 is simply call of duty with vehicles. They've ruined franchises like Battlefield and Command and Conquer. What made those games great is gone. But you're probably to young to know it. I also don't think you know what sheep means you lemmings. And you probably think people hate America because it's America too. It isn't blind stupidity either, you're just to lazy and unintelligent to actually figure out why people hate them.

Most of the people who hate EA (I used to be one of them) hate them because of another Origin incident entirely. EA Origin used to be a niche collection of studios who made extremely innovative games. Syndicate. System Shock. Ultima. Populous. I don't need to go much further. Basically, because EA more or less killed its indie wing, PC gamers turned on them, and rightfully so. Then they killed Westwood, and the rest is history. Well, not quite.

In the last console generation, they really arsed it up. Most of their games were pretty mediocre, and the only thing that really started to restore my faith was Time Splitters: Future Perfect. But EA has also really gone out on a limb with some of their studios this past gen that they haven't done since the mid 1990's when FPS's stole the show.

Now, as far as Battlefield goes...Battlefield 3 is leagues deeper than Battlefield 1942 and its brethren, so that vitriol is unjustified. Bioware effed up Mass Effect 3, not EA.

What EA has done this gen that's quite messed up is the on-disc DLC bullsh*t and their new Origin fiasco. But guess what...they aren't the only ones withthe on-disc DLC thing. Bethesda's guilty of it (well, id), too. And they've been going downhill for awhile.

IMO, the publisher equivalent of the devil is Activision, not EA. Activision has destroyed one genre and is in the progress of ruining another. To top it off, they screwed with the lives of two developers because they don't want to pay them their royalties. Not to mention on-disc DLC. I'm sorry, but that's far worse than rolling out a crappy distribution system that can and will be fixed because if it isn't, the penalties will be severe (class-action lawsuits and all).

Anyway, I have far more EA games this gen (not including Rock Band) than any other, so that's pretty telling; regardless of the crap they pull, they're at least making great games again and they deserve credit where it is due.

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[QUOTE="immortality20"]

I loathe all this EA hate, they do not deserve it and did more this generation then any other publisher with close to 2 dozen games at least AA. I did a blog on this, and people are just not aware at all at all the information. It's just blind stupidity.

Vangaurdius

Yes, yes they do. You either have to be 12, mentally challenged, or work for them to think otherwise.

Sigh, such a valid arguement you got.

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[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

[QUOTE="Vangaurdius"] What the hell are you talking about. You illiterate children don't even know why people are mad. Mass Effect 3 was a terrible game right from the start, and battlefield 3 is simply call of duty with vehicles. They've ruined franchises like Battlefield and Command and Conquer. What made those games great is gone. But you're probably to young to know it. I also don't think you know what sheep means you lemmings. And you probably think people hate America because it's America too. It isn't blind stupidity either, you're just to lazy and unintelligent to actually figure out why people hate them.Vangaurdius

You are the leader of hate EA group or something? If you say people dont hate EA, because of Origin and Mass Effect 3 ending. You should maybe read and you would notice people loathe Origin (becuase it has problems now, "EA sucks"). I guess the same people didnt use Steam when it was under 2 years or so. Because it was same buggy mess and had problems like Origin. And origin is about 1 year old.

Also people, in this forums too, blame EA for Bioware's Mass Effect 3 ending.

Battlefield 3 is great game. Excellent successor to battlefield 2.

No it's not. And why the hell are you using these forums as a judge for why EA sucks? I already stated why Battlefield 3 is far worse, and with a little bit of research (as in not gamespot and ign) you'd learn why. But then you'd have to leave your precious little bubble of protection here. You can't use the "one year old" argument because somebody else has already done a proper digital distribution platform, and therefor they know what they need to make it work. They ignored that and got deserved anger from the community. And I'm not the leader of some group you idiot. I never said those weren't reasons people dislike EA. Those are just two examples and you ignored the rest.

Damn you are one mad dude. Insults after insults.

If battlefield 3 is call of duty with vehicles so is battlefield 2.

What battlefield 3 does better than BF2. Destruction, not always the route which is blocked by sniper or lmg. Also gives quick hiding spots if you get shot. Karkand benefits from it greatly. MUCH BETTER hit detection, in bf2 it was sh*t. In bf2 spray pattern is weird, shoot from 1 meters and bullets misses the enemy. That never happens in bf3 (maybe sometimes).

Also Im not gonna argue with you anymore, since you call me child, illitare and idiot all the time. Mad dude :D

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[QUOTE="Vangaurdius"][QUOTE="immortality20"]

I loathe all this EA hate, they do not deserve it and did more this generation then any other publisher with close to 2 dozen games at least AA. I did a blog on this, and people are just not aware at all at all the information. It's just blind stupidity.

immortality20

Yes, yes they do. You either have to be 12, mentally challenged, or work for them to think otherwise.

Sigh, such a valid arguement you got.

I merely responded in kind.
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Firstly, I'd like to say that this can be applied to more than just games. This is the perfect example of what has happened to everyone. But that's a discussion for another time. Perhaps a little to complicated to be a simple metaphor though. Not quoting. Easier that way. Battlefield 3 has less classes. They got rid of the commander position and the voice system. There are less vehicles, the maps all feel the same. They added regenerating health and shrunk the maps. They didn't offer any mod support either. The hit detection was terrible, and still is terrible. The unlock system from BF2 and 2142 was changed to mimic call of duty. There are no longer faction specific weapons. Hell, they got rid of the factions. That's not even bringing in the expansion packs which brought added even more. Battlefield lost what battlefield was because casuals don't like to think. They want instant gratification and that's exactly what they did with battlefield. Command and Conquer is another series they ruined. They got rid of faction specific units because their shoddy engine (they admitted that the engine for 3 was terrible) couldn't handle it. Take how the nod could burrow underground. That was the example they used. The engine can't handle that and would lock up and fixing it would require too much effort and time because of the pressure EA was applying. Then there was red alert 3 which had forgone what Red Alert 1 and 2 had. It went from a game with some silly units but had a distinct feel to them to rejects from the cartoon network. The campy humor and ribbing on awful and cheesy action movies was gone where they tried to be serious, instead of laughing at how awful and hilarious it was, it induced cringing. A perfect example of how the heart and soul of a company dies once EA takes control. People bring up Activision but what has Activision done? Rhythm games were never for gamers. They were made for the high score crowd and family fun. Good riddance. Keep that in movie theaters. They created their call of duty cash cow. But they didn't step on any toes doing it. They didn't ruin FPS gaming. They created a series that set out to provide instant gratification and did it well. They can't be blamed for the actions of other companies trying to copy them because they want the casual crowd. A slight throwback to earlier, but battlefield 2 and 2142 and had a perfect balance between tactics and brainless shooters. 2142 was an amazing game and the titan mode was a great idea to the point where many well renowned servers played it exclusively. While the expansion pack was somewhat shoddy, it did provide more content and the new mobile fortress of doom was a great idea and balanced well. They had left all that behind because there's more money in the brainless masses. It is not Activisions fault and you can respect Kotick, he doesn't play any false humility that insults your intelligence, he tells you straight up. I can respect that. I can't respect false niceties. I'll just some up the bioware stuff because everyone is already informed about all the things going on. From the literally nazi like censorship on their forums that stemmed from the complete and utter disaster that was TOR, to creating false controversy with not only spam bots, but having actual employees at it too. Then ignoring why people were hating on Hamburger (I'll never use her actual name, Hamburger is far more amusing) and review sites automatically jumping to their defense in order to protect their profit margins. Bioware can only really provide media attention, and EA is exploiting that. There are of course games like mirrors edge. It was a great runner that could have had an amazing sequel. But that went out the window. It's not casual enough with enough crazy explosions. They had hinted at a sequel, but they were taking it in a completely different direction and focusing it almost entirely on the shooting. There was Dead Space, but it was a lousy game that relied on predictable jump scares and offered no challenge to anyone except those who struggle with hand to eye coordination. Then there's crysis. The first game was not only an amazing technical achievement, but the gameplay was awesome. Just watch the crysis ironman runs on youtube. You'll see what I mean. They got rid of that too. Once again, not casual enough, and it was punishing. You couldn't just use your abilities as a crutch. You had to think about when and how to use them. Plan out your moves. Even on the hardest difficulty in Crysis 2 you don't need to. They didn't even properly utilize their own engine because of the consoles holding them back, as they always do. There was Dragon Age but it was meh at best. It lacked the complexity to be an RPG, but with added depth and variety they could have had a good game on their hands. Other than that it was series of mediocre titles that went straight for instant gratification. I'm skipping Spore, what happened with that sums up EA perfectly. They, much like Ubisoft and their DRM are anti-consumer. They don't want quality titles that push gaming further into the future, forcing other devs to step their game up, they instead want simple dumb games for the illiterate masses. They dumb down games and throw little rewards, medals, achievements, and unlocks at you. They put the barest amount of effort possible and work their employees to death. They take known franchises and ruin what made them great like Black and White, and create a hand holding carrot stick appearance to make you feel like you accomplished something when there's nothing of substance there. They encourage unintelligent, extremely easy, soulless, and half-hearted games that never punish you for your mistakes. The fact that they are doing so is insulting, and the fact that people defend them even more so. I am mad, I'm furious that I can see what has happened with movies, books, and music happening to gaming. What's next? Sports? I want you to stop for a second. Think of the how glitch ridden battlefield was, how awful their patch support for TOR was, the pointless difficulty found in their single player titles that only make them superficially harder. Making you have less health, giving the enemy way more, does not make a game harder. Everything I talked about was done deliberately and, leading you on so you could convince yourself that you had fun. I mean, you unlocked all that stuff didn't you? Now, before you quietly hide your anger, thinking you can hide your feelings behind emoticons because I've provided valid reasons for disliking what you like and being perfectly frank about my frustration. Why don't you stop and look at the bigger picture for one time in your entire life? Instead of desperately running to the defense of your drug dealer because it's easier to ignore the issue than confront it. I want YOU to HONESTLY ANSWER THIS QUESTION. Not for anyone else, not for me. For you. Is this what you want?