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#1 mattttherman3
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Not me! the only good reviewer is that fast speaking english guy that ives in australia, his name escaped me at the moment(hes not at this website) in fact why not just go to utube and watch player video reviews, they are not corrupted. I find that there is no one i can fully trust but myself, I now must rent the games before i buy them because i just don't know what i'm going into, trailers only go so far. The only quality game studios out there is bethesda softworks, blizzard, jagex(creators of runescape, yeah thats right). Let me ask this, if Halo ODST turned out to be garbage would gamespot give an honest review, no the game would get 8.0.
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#2 Fredrick2003x
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You are thinking of Yahtzee (Zero Punctuation Video Series) and I am a big fan as well, he's pretty funny.

I don't trust reviews at all really, and some of the things that games get "marked down" for I actually like. Phrases such as "too short", "too linear", "bland graphics", "too easy" and the like only succeed in making me want to buy the game more.

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#3 mattttherman3
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ah yes yahtzee, hilarious, for me, i have lots of time to kill so length is a must, i like games with more than 1 difficulty, linear is fine as long as the developper doesn't claim otherwise(thank you very much fable 2)
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#4 Fredrick2003x
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But if a game is REALLY REALLY good you will want to replay it over and over again, so the length of one playthrough isn't important.

I must have played Time Crisis 4 all the way through (without dieing ;D) more than 50 times, it never gets old.

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#5 11Marcel
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You actually take yathzee's reviews more seriously than gamespot reviews? Not saying I completely trust GS reviews, but yathzee will make fun of any game that's not his favourite game or genre. You can usually get a good idea of a game by reading a GS review together with the score. The point here is that the text is most important, not the score.
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#6 Fredrick2003x
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I don't think anyone takes Yahtzee 100% seriously but I agree wholeheartedly with his Silent Hill Homecoming, Turok (360 version ewww), and Halo 3 reviews.
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#7 RK-Mara
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You should never trust reviews because no one has the same taste as you do.
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#8 mattttherman3
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i like how yahtzee puts out all of the flaws in the game in a funny way, halo 3 he is dead on, and with fable 2, he echoes my thoughts exactly

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#9 mattttherman3
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to-che rk, to-che

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#10 nVidiaGaMer
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I don't think anyone takes Yahtzee 100% seriously but I agree wholeheartedly with his Silent Hill Homecoming, Turok (360 version ewww), and Halo 3 reviews.Fredrick2003x

I think Silent Hill Homecoming is underrated on GS I agree with the 10s this year though. GTA IV deserved the 10 because its the first game to create a living breathing world something that Saints Row, Driver, and the Godfather could not.

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#11 angryfodder
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the text is most important, not the score.11Marcel
Bingo! Its all about what the reviewer says/writes that is important. The fan boys of say system wars care only for the number - I doubt most of them actually read the reviews, because of the "wall of text" but if you read a review, you can actually sometimes find that a game taht scores a 6 is actually more suited to you than a game that scores a 10. Everyone is different, every has things that they like and things that they don't like.
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#12 ISeeDeadGames
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It depends on the information provided by the reviewer on the site.
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#13 MicWazowski
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Most reviewers complain about what a game did wrong, and ignore what it did right. They are way too subjective.

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#14 Greatgone12
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I don't, especially when many of the people on this website (actually, most websites... 1up, IGN, etc.) don't have a basic understanding of the some of the genres they review, such as STGs.

Most reviewers complain about what a game did wrong, and ignore what it did right. They are way too subjective.

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Reviews are, by definition, subjective. Complaining about a review being too subjective is indicative of your ignorance, just for reference in the future.
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#15 gunswordfist
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I trust gamespot's reviews. People don't trust their reviews because GS doesn't always give their highly anticipated games high enough scores. BOOHOO! Mirror's Edge got a 7.0 BOOHOO! Prince Of Persia got a 8.0 BOOHOO! Devil May Cry 4 got an 8.0 and I can go on and on. I always think GS gives good reasons for why they give a game a certain score. And just in case anyone wants to know, DMC4 is my 2nd favorite game of all time, PoP is the #1 game I want to get my hands on and I'm dieing to get Mirror's Edge. GS just told me what to expect when I get these games.
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#16 MetalGear_Ninty
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I do to the extent that I would for most reviewers. To be honest though, I realise to never to take the review of one party as the absolute evaluation of any product.
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#17 Archangel3371
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While I don't agree 100% of the time with them, which is perfectly normal, I still trust their reviews. I generally find them very informative and well-written and their taste usually corresponds with mine.
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#18 190586385885857957282413308806
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I used to but I found that with the change in reviewers, I just can't agree with most of the reviews anymore. i'm just here for forums now
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#19 BladesOfAthena
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I always make sure to cross-check different sites before I make my purchasing decisions since I don't have the time, money, or patience to sit down and play each and every game that I think will strike my fancy. I still need the opinions of others in order to help save time. which is by far the most precious resource.
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#20 Fredrick2003x
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It is also important to remember that 5/10 is still AVERAGE, so if you do live and die by reviews you should still play anything above a 5.
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#21 kfjl
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I think the only single reviewer I ever trusted his judgment on almost totally was Greg Kasavin but other than that, I don't make any purchasing decision based on review or site by itself and instead go by Metacritic score
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#22 Curlyfrii87
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i trust the user reviews more... that is if you can find some that aren't fanboys!

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#23 Nifty_Shark
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I trust the site. I look at many different sites though and they usually come to a similar conclusion. I do have some favorite reviewers but they aren't on Gamespot. I don't necessarily agree with them but they are fun to read.
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#24 GodModeEnabled
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Some of the reviewers I like but I have moved past a point of really needing them to make my buying decisions. I know what im gonna like and what I won't. Prince Of Persia yay! Cooking Mama Booo. Etc. Getting to know a bunch of people on here for a few years has lead me to trust their impressions on games more than any reviewer could anyways.
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#25 foxhound_fox
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They gave Mirror's Edge a 7.0/10 and it is my GOTY. Obviously not me.

That and I love Castlevania: Lament of Innocence (7.7) and Curse of Darkness (6.8 ).

I have come to trust any review as much as I trust politicians for making the right decision. I just think reviews are too opinionated and don't focus enough on reporting and grading the games actual content. Plus, scores ultimately mean nothing with a well-written justification. Which is why I am begining to enjoy Eurogamer's reviews, they are as objective as a review can get and do very well at justifying the scores they give them.
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#26 dylanmcc
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For Wii reviews, no. I mean they give Castlevania: Judgment a 3.0 but Imagine Party Babiez will probably get a 7.0 like on IGN. It doesn't make sense. I didn't like the review for Tales of Symphonia 2 either. But I trust them for PS3 and 360 games, they have pretty indepth reviews. I prefer watching the review, not reading. Gamespot's video reviews are good.
But I prefer user reviews.
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#27 Video_Game_King
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Eh, I trust them to the point of using them as a guide to buy the game and then form my own damn opinions.
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#28 GetafixOz
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You actually take yathzee's reviews more seriously than gamespot reviews? Not saying I completely trust GS reviews, but yathzee will make fun of any game that's not his favourite game or genre. You can usually get a good idea of a game by reading a GS review together with the score. The point here is that the text is most important, not the score.11Marcel

Yahtzee has proven himself time and again to be above any sort of commercial manipulation. If he says nothing bad about a game it is probably a 9/10 for real. Coz if a game is mediocre or worse yet.... actually bad... he is so savage you are left in no doubt.

In answer... I have been coming to Gamespot for many years now... long before the Oz version existed. I have defended Gamespot to friends who told me it was bought and sold on reviews by everyone from EA to Space Cpt Garriot and I always kept the faith.

The GTAIV PC review is a complete joke.... 40% of the readers give the game 4 or less GS gives it 9. It is easily the largest discrpency I have seen since coming to GS.

Very dissapointing.

If you are half the journalists you think you are... you must have know how bad the game was bugged.... if you didnt... you have no place writing reviews.

It really diminishes people's confindence for a host of reasons.... Id say grow some Cahones.... or find another job.

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#29 one_on_one
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These reviews just gives me an idea of the game but in the end I trust my own judgement of the game when I do play them.

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#30 Video_Game_King
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Yahtzee has proven himself time and again to be above any sort of commercial manipulation. If he says nothing bad about a game it is probably a 9/10 for real. Coz if a game is mediocre of wrose yet.... actually bad... he is so savage you are left in no doubt.

In answer... I have been coming to Gamespot for many years now... long before the Oz version existed. I have defended Gamespot to friends who told me it bought and sol on reviews and I always kept the faith.

The GTAIV PC review is a complete joke.... 40% of the readers give the game 4 or less GS gives it 9. It is easily the largest discrpency I have seen since coming to GS.

Very dissapointing.

If you are half the journalists you think you are... you must have know how bad the game was bugged.... if you didnt... you have no place writing reviews.

It really diminishes people's confindence for a host of reasons.... Id say grow some Cahones.... or find another job.

GetafixOz

No, I find him to be fairly biased towards PC games, especially if Valve has made them. Seriously, if there's even a single valve in the game, he has little to nothing bad to say about it. Meanwhile, he'll beat the hell out of any Japanese game whenever he gets the chance. Not saying I won't trust his reviews, but it'd be nice to see somebody with the same review format, but completely different ideologies.

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#31 foxhound_fox
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For Wii reviews, no. I mean they give Castlevania: Judgment a 3.0 but Imagine Party Babiez will probably get a 7.0 like on IGN. It doesn't make sense. I didn't like the review for Tales of Symphonia 2 either. But I trust them for PS3 and 360 games, they have pretty indepth reviews. I prefer watching the review, not reading. Gamespot's video reviews are good.
But I prefer user reviews.
dylanmcc

But what if Casltevania: Judgement actually is a terrible game? The character designs were ruined by the Death Note artist and the premise is silly. I don't even care if the gameplay is bad, those two reasons are enough for me to label it as a blight on the Castlevania series.
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#32 Video_Game_King
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[QUOTE="dylanmcc"]For Wii reviews, no. I mean they give Castlevania: Judgment a 3.0 but Imagine Party Babiez will probably get a 7.0 like on IGN. It doesn't make sense. I didn't like the review for Tales of Symphonia 2 either. But I trust them for PS3 and 360 games, they have pretty indepth reviews. I prefer watching the review, not reading. Gamespot's video reviews are good.
But I prefer user reviews.
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But what if Casltevania: Judgement actually is a terrible game? The character designs were ruined by the Death Note artist and the premise is silly. I don't even care if the gameplay is bad, those two reasons are enough for me to label it as a blight on the Castlevania series.

You mean the fact that it was in 3D wasn't enough :P?

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#33 GetafixOz
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[QUOTE="GetafixOz"]

Yahtzee has proven himself time and again to be above any sort of commercial manipulation. If he says nothing bad about a game it is probably a 9/10 for real. Coz if a game is mediocre of wrose yet.... actually bad... he is so savage you are left in no doubt.

In answer... I have been coming to Gamespot for many years now... long before the Oz version existed. I have defended Gamespot to friends who told me it bought and sol on reviews and I always kept the faith.

The GTAIV PC review is a complete joke.... 40% of the readers give the game 4 or less GS gives it 9. It is easily the largest discrpency I have seen since coming to GS.

Very dissapointing.

If you are half the journalists you think you are... you must have know how bad the game was bugged.... if you didnt... you have no place writing reviews.

It really diminishes people's confindence for a host of reasons.... Id say grow some Cahones.... or find another job.

Video_Game_King

No, I find him to be fairly biased towards PC games, especially if Valve has made them. Seriously, if there's even a single valve in the game, he has little to nothing bad to say about it. Meanwhile, he'll beat the hell out of any Japanese game whenever he gets the chance. Not saying I won't trust his reviews, but it'd be nice to see somebody with the same review format, but completely different ideologies.

One reason he likes PC is he is like 40y/o like me. Most of us old fart just did not buy consoles much.... My PS3 is the only console I have ever owned and I bought it to play GTA4... while I waited for the PC version.

Another reason is Valve make great games, they have basically not failed yet and dont look like failing.

I would also give consistency to Yahtzee over GS as they often do things that make no sense... Mirrors edge rating as a game and its place in the GOTY is unfathomable.

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#34 Video_Game_King
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One reason he likes PC is he is like 40y/o like me. Most of us old fart just did not buy consoles much.... My PS3 is the only console I have ever owned and I bought it to play GTA4... while I waited for the PC version.

Another reason is Valve make great games, they have basically not failed yet and dont look like failing.

I would also give consistency to Yahtzee over GS as they often do things that make no sense... Mirrors edge rating as a game and its place in the GOTY is unfathomable.

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40? Last I checked, he was 25. I think he admitted that in his Fable 2 review. And another company that makes pretty much all great games is Intelligent Systems. Seriously, they have one of the best track records in gaming. But Super Paper Mario was insulted. Kind of.

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#35 foxhound_fox
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You mean the fact that it was in 3D wasn't enough :P? Video_Game_King

Don't get me started on how Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness are fantastic Castlevania games. The problem with them is that they weren't given the Metroid Prime treatment. They were just the 2D games transferred directly into 3D, without taking into account the extra dimension. The amount of missed opportunity in Curse of Darkness alone is staggering.

I wonder how many people who say Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness are "bad" games have even played them? Or if they are just basing what they know off hearsay. They are nowhere near the best action-RPG games available but they are amazing Castlevania games.
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#36 Blacklight2
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I trust user reviews more than anyone elses, yet gamespot is usally pretty close to user reviews.
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#37 MicWazowski
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I don't, especially when many of the people on this website (actually, most websites... 1up, IGN, etc.) don't have a basic understanding of the some of the genres they review, such as STGs. [QUOTE="MicWazowski"]

Most reviewers complain about what a game did wrong, and ignore what it did right. They are way too subjective.

Greatgone12

Reviews are, by definition, subjective. Complaining about a review being too subjective is indicative of your ignorance, just for reference in the future.

I know what a review is. That's not the issue. The purpose of a review is to help inform/advise the reader if the game in question is worth his/her time and money.

"I dislike it, therefore, it sucks" is not a good review.

"I dislike it, but YOU might like it, so this review will be objective as possible to explore that possibility, since that's the point of this website" is a good review.

Both, inevitably, are colored by the writer's opinion. But one is much more helpful than the other. The other tell's you more about the writer than about the actual game because it is too subjective. This is why most people don't trust reviews on most websites.

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#38 Video_Game_King
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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]You mean the fact that it was in 3D wasn't enough :P? foxhound_fox

Don't get me started on how Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness are fantastic Castlevania games. The problem with them is that they weren't given the Metroid Prime treatment. They were just the 2D games transferred directly into 3D, without taking into account the extra dimension. The amount of missed opportunity in Curse of Darkness alone is staggering.

I wonder how many people who say Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness are "bad" games have even played them? Or if they are just basing what they know off hearsay. They are nowhere near the best action-RPG games available but they are amazing Castlevania games.

Look, the only 3D Castlevania I've played was Castlevania 64, and that game was pretty bad. Turned me off the whole 3D Castlevania thing.

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#39 DivergeUnify
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I don't care for Gamespot much anymore. I tend to like Gametrailers' reviews more, but I tend to mix those two with forum/friend opinions
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#40 POSTAL-X
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I remember when i had my super nintendo many many years ago and there were no reviews for me to go on. i never bought any mags or went on the terribly slow internet at that time, i just went to the shop looked at the game and if i liked the look of it i bought it. while i read the reviews on many sites the one who has the final say is me. why should i go out and buy a game just because someone said it kicked ass or gave it a number from 1 to 10??

The one true benefit from game sites is that they help to show you all the different games that are out there and introduce them to you. these days just about every game store lets you take back the game and swap it for another game if you didn't like it. so again i ask why do we need to buy a game that someone tells us is a 7, 8 or 10? buy doing this we restrict ourselves from games that might be great to play.

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#41 MicWazowski
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I remember when i had my super nintendo many many years ago and there were no reviews for me to go on. i never bought any mags or went on the terribly slow internet at that time, i just went to the shop looked at the game and if i liked the look of it i bought it. while i read the reviews on many sites the one who has the final say is me. why should i go out and buy a game just because someone said it kicked ass or gave it a number from 1 to 10??

The one true benefit from game sites is that they help to show you all the different games that are out there and introduce them to you. these days just about every game store lets you take back the game and swap it for another game if you didn't like it. so again i ask why do we need to buy a game that someone tells us is a 7, 8 or 10? buy doing this we restrict ourselves from games that might be great to play.

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No one should take any one review as absolute law, but with games running at 60 dollars, running in blind is not a smart move. Every game is the greatest game ever according to the back of its box. Also, you're assuming that we just go by the score. Since different reviews go on different scales, a 5/10 on one site could be a 7.5/10 on the next. On the other hand, English is always English. Taking some time to read the things will do wonders. Furthermore, however much time it takes, it will take less time than making three or four trips to the store returning and re-purchasing and much less than waiting for the thing to come in the mail if you went that route.

You know that feeling you get when you walk out of a movie that looked like it would be good from the trailer and it hits you that you spent 10 dollars to see it? Imagine that but with six times more money. Sound good? No, no it does not. Oh, and trading the game in might get you half of what you paid for it, so good luck with that.

Reviews have their place and are very, very useful if written correctly, it's just very difficult to find a consistent source.

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#42 YoJim8obaJoe
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I trust Gamespots reviews about as much as I trust a self confessed kiddie toucher baby sitting my kids
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#43 foxhound_fox
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Look, the only 3D Castlevania I've played was Castlevania 64, and that game was pretty bad. Turned me off the whole 3D Castlevania thing. Video_Game_King

Then it is unfortunate that you decided to overlook two fantastic games just because of one.
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#44 POSTAL-X
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MicWazowski couldn't agree more for the money and time side of things since the recent layoffs and trips to the shops, however, the down-loadable and playable previews should help with that as long as they give a good preview to play. and yes english is english so reading the reviews is a good way to get subjective advise "The one true benefit from game sites is that they help to show you all the different games that are out there and introduce them to you."
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#45 shemrom
Member since 2005 • 1206 Posts

For me, i do trust gamespot for reviews to some point.

Example, Fable 2. i saw the review and play the game, every thing that has it pro and cons about it was spot on by the dude from gamespot who review it.

once in a while there things that i go(Wait, what the heck is wrong with people theses days.) But they know what they are reviewing.

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#46 gunswordfist
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[QUOTE="dylanmcc"]For Wii reviews, no. I mean they give Castlevania: Judgment a 3.0 but Imagine Party Babiez will probably get a 7.0 like on IGN. It doesn't make sense. I didn't like the review for Tales of Symphonia 2 either. But I trust them for PS3 and 360 games, they have pretty indepth reviews. I prefer watching the review, not reading. Gamespot's video reviews are good.
But I prefer user reviews.
foxhound_fox

But what if Casltevania: Judgement actually is a terrible game? The character designs were ruined by the Death Note artist and the premise is silly. I don't even care if the gameplay is bad, those two reasons are enough for me to label it as a blight on the Castlevania series.

I also HATE the anime look and the fact that it's Wii shovelware makes 3.0 seem like a nice score.
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#47 Video_Game_King
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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]Look, the only 3D Castlevania I've played was Castlevania 64, and that game was pretty bad. Turned me off the whole 3D Castlevania thing. foxhound_fox

Then it is unfortunate that you decided to overlook two fantastic games just because of one.

Even if I didn't hate Castlevania 64, I probably couldn't get the PS2 ones. I doubt my local GameStop is holding any used copies.

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#48 MicWazowski
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]Look, the only 3D Castlevania I've played was Castlevania 64, and that game was pretty bad. Turned me off the whole 3D Castlevania thing. Video_Game_King


Then it is unfortunate that you decided to overlook two fantastic games just because of one.

Even if I didn't hate Castlevania 64, I probably couldn't get the PS2 ones. I doubt my local GameStop is holding any used copies.

The Internet is.

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#49 NeilCardiff
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Like you say, everyone is different, thats why you should read plenty of reviews and see which reviewers have the same taste as you, Never take a review literally , its only an opinion after all,
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#50 Drosa
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I usually don't pay much attention to reviews.

In the past there seemed to be a tendancy for critics to become fanboys when reviewing titles from high profile developers. Take Doom 3 for example. The A.I. was so dumb it tried to shoot at you through the wall. Not one review I saw said anything about it. Yet, other games with the same weak AI got slammed.

Recently, Ubisoft admitted to pressuring reviews to hold of low score reviews for Tomb Raider: Underworld. Its hard to see a reason why I should bother reading reviews for online Ubisoft titles now.

There just doesn't seem to be much point in bothering with reviews anymore.