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#1 TFrieden0928
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i have to admit it, after over this past decade fps have become a strong genre for gamers. but i noticed one thing. as a new fps comes along we abandon the old one. for instance, once people started playing call of duty 4 people stopped playing halo 3. I mean people still play it but its not as much as it used to be. then theres the people that talk about how great halo is and then they stab in the back and dont play it ever again. thats the problem with fps. you keep switching games, while rpgs and adventures games etc.are remembered and played for ages, i dont stop playing devil may cry cuz i think god of war is better, i dont play only one final fantasy, i play them all. while fps are great people dont play them as we switch alot. dont get me wrong i dont hate fps, but im sick and tired of paying another 60 bucks just because everyone else switches. and im sick and tired of seeing all the fps that comes out. i think this is why some gamers wreck on fps. what are your thoughts?

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#2 Conker36
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I personally am not a fan of fps's with the exception of the call of duty series, and Halo so it doesn't really matter to me.
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#3 cobrax25
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this is the way of XBL....

and honestly, for some reason...this sodesnt occur on the PC oddly enough...despite COD4 coming...the fast majority of COD4 players did not seem to switch games all together...as the number of CS and BF2 players, is still roughly the same.

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#4 190586385885857957282413308806
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the guy talking about PC games has a point. I remember picking up AvP 2 years after it came out and there was still a strong online group playing the game.

console owners are always waiting to hop on the next newest thing for the most part.

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#5 cobrax25
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I think its because of the mods...thats probably why people still play old games so regurally.
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#6 WSGRandomPerson
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Don't buy the next FPS just to keep up with the crowd, no matter how many people go to COD4. There are still thousands, apon thousands of people who play Halo 3...
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#7 11Marcel
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Well, there are exceptions. For example, halo 2 is still played a lot. I think part of the issue is also the hardware. PC players may want to hop on the next fps, but their PC can't always run it. On consoles you don't really have this issue.
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#8 greenghost123
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Simple, because their better, why get Halo 3 when Call Of Duty 4 is better? Thing with RPGS is that they are essentially diffrent games so you don't miss out on anything if you get Final Fantasy 10 over 12, but when it comes to most genres like FPSs and Racing Games a sequel usually has more options and things to do. When it comes to the FPS genre, well admit, virtually every game ever released is the same only with a diffrent theme (halo=aliens, COD=modern warfare) save for minor diffrences. This is especially true for the Multiplayer component of FPSs which coincidently is what Developers focus on more these days and want most gamers want these days, especially on the 360.
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I think some of it has to do with a "follow the leader" kind of attitude that some people may have which is to say that when a new game comes out, especially with a really strong multiplayer component, then some people will just assume everyone will migrate over to that game so they do so also because that's where they expect everyone else to be.

Having said that though I really don't see alot of numbers that really back this "quick to abandon" theroy. Halo 3 is still the number one game played on Live and most likely will do so for a very long time and Lost Planet just recently made a reappearance on the top ten at number ten I believe.

Also 360 owners seem to have a voracious appetite for games so it's easy to see large jumps from game to game each time new games come out.

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Simple, because their better, why get Halo 3 when Call Of Duty 4 is better? Thing with RPGS is that they are essentially diffrent games so you don't miss out on anything if you get Final Fantasy 10 over 12, but when it comes to most genres like FPSs and Racing Games a sequel usually has more options and things to do. When it comes to the FPS genre, well admit, virtually every game ever released is the same only with a diffrent theme (halo=aliens, COD=modern warfare) save for minor diffrences. This is especially true for the Multiplayer component of FPSs which coincidently is what Developers focus on more these days and want most gamers want these days, especially on the 360. greenghost123

This is where you are wrong, you can't say that call of duty is much much better as some say that it has small advantages over halo 3. why would i buy madden every year if it didnt have new features. fps don't have any new features. all you do is kill .

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[QUOTE="greenghost123"]Simple, because their better, why get Halo 3 when Call Of Duty 4 is better? Thing with RPGS is that they are essentially diffrent games so you don't miss out on anything if you get Final Fantasy 10 over 12, but when it comes to most genres like FPSs and Racing Games a sequel usually has more options and things to do. When it comes to the FPS genre, well admit, virtually every game ever released is the same only with a diffrent theme (halo=aliens, COD=modern warfare) save for minor diffrences. This is especially true for the Multiplayer component of FPSs which coincidently is what Developers focus on more these days and want most gamers want these days, especially on the 360. TFrieden0928

This is where you are wrong, you can't say that call of duty is much much better as some say that it has small advantages over halo 3. why would i buy madden every year if it didnt have new features. fps don't have any new features. all you do is kill .

That was my point.

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#12 StephenHu
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People will usually not switch to a newer game on the PC because the new game will probably have high system requirements and the gamer will not want to upgrade their rig just yet to switch to the new game. Also, Battlefield and Counter Strike Games are addicting as heck.
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#13 cobrax25
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People will usually not switch to a newer game on the PC because the new game will probably have high system requirements and the gamer will not want to upgrade their rig just yet to switch to the new game. Also, Battlefield and Counter Strike Games are addicting as heck.StephenHu

Thats probably partially the reason, But I suspect its more than that.....I think a bigger part of the reason is Mods, and like you say, several extreamly addictive games....

If you check on the PC forums, even those with the highest end PC's still play CSS and BF2 pretty often....

a lot of people on the PC forum still play Starcraft and Warcraft 3 even.

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keep it up guys.

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I play COD4 because COD has always been my favorite FPS series. I also play Halo because it has split screen Matchmaking so my friends can play. Another fav is Team Fortress 2. I recently picked up Bioshock and love it. But all four of those games are different and offer a completely different experience. COD4 is chaotic and unpredictible, Halo is the same as it's always been, TF2 is a great break from Deathmatch and offers a lot that no other FPS has, and then Bioshock is an amazing single player experience.

There are some FPS that don't break the mold but not every FPS is the same.

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I still play Call of Duty United Offence and Call of Duty 2, even though I have and like to play Call of Duty 4 MW. They're all great games, but gaming has advanced so much in recent, that I think that most fps gamers feel almost pressured to get the latest, greatest on the market.

Not too long ago, I was playing Battle Zone, yes Battle Zone. Graphics and overall game-play has skyrocketed in the past several years, it's moving almost too fast for hardware advances, ex. If you wan't to get the a lot eye candy out of Crysis, you need the "on-the-top", most expensive hardware out there.

You can have a lot of fun from older (even almost 10yr old games)lol.

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i have to admit it, after over this past decade fps have become a strong genre for gamers. but i noticed one thing. as a new fps comes along we abandon the old one. for instance, once people started playing call of duty 4 people stopped playing halo 3. I mean people still play it but its not as much as it used to be. then theres the people that talk about how great halo is and then they stab in the back and dont play it ever again. thats the problem with fps. you keep switching games, while rpgs and adventures games etc.are remembered and played for ages, i dont stop playing devil may cry cuz i think god of war is better, i dont play only one final fantasy, i play them all. while fps are great people dont play them as we switch alot. dont get me wrong i dont hate fps, but im sick and tired of paying another 60 bucks just because everyone else switches. and im sick and tired of seeing all the fps that comes out. i think this is why some gamers wreck on fps. what are your thoughts?

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It's the difference between the casual player and the gamer. Casual players play the game of the moment and forget about it when the general attention switches to another game, while the gamer can play an old game and still feel satisfied. Neither of the two behaviours is wrong, they're just two different ways to approach gaming.

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#18 TFrieden0928
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[QUOTE="TFrieden0928"]

i have to admit it, after over this past decade fps have become a strong genre for gamers. but i noticed one thing. as a new fps comes along we abandon the old one. for instance, once people started playing call of duty 4 people stopped playing halo 3. I mean people still play it but its not as much as it used to be. then theres the people that talk about how great halo is and then they stab in the back and dont play it ever again. thats the problem with fps. you keep switching games, while rpgs and adventures games etc.are remembered and played for ages, i dont stop playing devil may cry cuz i think god of war is better, i dont play only one final fantasy, i play them all. while fps are great people dont play them as we switch alot. dont get me wrong i dont hate fps, but im sick and tired of paying another 60 bucks just because everyone else switches. and im sick and tired of seeing all the fps that comes out. i think this is why some gamers wreck on fps. what are your thoughts?

Black_Knight_00

It's the difference between the casual player and the gamer. Casual players play the game of the moment and forget about it when the general attention switches to another game, while the gamer can play an old game and still feel satisfied. Neither of the two behaviours is wrong, they're just two different ways to approach gaming.

well its not nessacraily true, most of my friends are hardcore and all they play is fps, they enter tournaments and everything. they switch alot too.
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#19 Black_Knight_00
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well its not nessacraily true, most of my friends are hardcore and all they play is fps, they enter tournaments and everything. they switch alot too.TFrieden0928

Yes, switching it's not exclusive to casual gamer: I do switch games too. But (and I speak for myself) I'm a gamer, because I don't lose interest in games when they get 'old'.

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#20 TFrieden0928
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[QUOTE="TFrieden0928"]

well its not nessacraily true, most of my friends are hardcore and all they play is fps, they enter tournaments and everything. they switch alot too.Black_Knight_00

Yes, switching it's not exclusive to casual gamer: I do switch games too. But (and I speak for myself) I'm a gamer, because I don't lose interest in games when they get 'old'.

thats not what i mean, when call of duty 4 came out, they TOTALLY abandoned halo 3. and they did the same thing to all the other shooters. like last year when gears of war came out, they abandoned resistance. now resistance 2 and gears of war 2 are coming out this year i wonder which is going to be switched on. And when i mean switched, it means the game has been out for only a couple of months and then you bail.

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#21 Black_Knight_00
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thats not what i mean, when call of duty 4 came out, they TOTALLY abandoned halo 3. and they did the same thing to all the other shooters. like last year when gears of war came out, they abandoned resistance. now resistance 2 and gears of war 2 are coming out this year i wonder which is going to be switched on. And when i mean switched, it means the game has been out for only a couple of months and then you bail.

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Yes, because 95% of the players are casual (shall we say, normal) players (no offense of course!). They quickly grow tired of a game and want to get excited on a new one, while the previous one is labeled as 'old' and forgotten. And yes, this can happen in just a few weeks. It's quite normal nowadays.

Me? I can't really understand this. I'm completely unaffected by hype, I still don't own any next-gen console (I'm not done fully enjoying last-gen). I'm still crazy about a lot of games from the '80s, Eighties! I will never call those games old.

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You don't need to switch over from one FPS to another, just stick with one, there's bound to be other people online.
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#23 --Quadkillz--
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I played CS for about 6 years, but I quit once I found Cod4 and H3. I just.. stopped. But I play the orange box on my pc, and morrowind / and oblivion.

I agree with you though. Every point you've made about how people switch alot