StarCraft II's overheating issues: Blizzard don't care?

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#1 TheDuke38
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I am REALLY pissed off, that Blizzard don't patch the damn thing. I have an Nvidia 8800, and whatever I did (cleaned the PC and card, reinstalled and refreshed everything etc) the game keeps freezing! There's an article about that issue on Gladriel.com, interesting read IMHO....

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#2 deactivated-61006a60aff6f
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Arent the cards overheating cause people are using old drivers and not updating them? Just random ranting makes you look like a noob. Perhaps you should get to learn how a computer works since its realy not that hard (i swear) and you can avoid overheating issues.

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#3 SapSacPrime
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Blizzard are never very good where compatibility issues are concerned, still at least you can go in the registry and limit frame according to that site you linked. There were always frequent issues with WoW and the ati 4800 series so I know where you are coming from.

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#4 deactivated-61006a60aff6f
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You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

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#5 TheDuke38
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limiting frames did absolutly NOTHING :(

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#6 guildclaws
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Try playing it on low or medium
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#7 JigglyWiggly_
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This isn't their fault remotely, that's like complaining a game is too optimized to use every bit of your gpu and it causes it to overheat... That makes as much sense as blaming furmark for making your gpu hot.
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#8 Black_Knight_00
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You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

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^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PC
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#9 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="Raizeen"]

You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

Black_Knight_00
^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PC

Cause its too hard to download a tool?
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#10 Sindri0x
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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Raizeen"]

You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

Iantheone

^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PC

Cause its too hard to download a tool?

Why would anyone want to do that? :lol:

It's like downloading an interactive Peter Molyneux program......

On the subject, haven't encountered any issues, so sorry.

Good thing is, given Blizzard's record with updates (weren't there like 50000 for Warcraft 3?), this will hopefully be fixed at some stage; hopefully soon! If you send in reports of what is happening to Blizzard, they will see fit to fix it or provide you with an alternate solution.

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#11 TheDuke38
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Try playing it on low or mediumguildclaws

Tried on the lowest. Same thing. :(

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#12 Black_Knight_00
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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Raizeen"]

You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

Iantheone
^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PC

Cause its too hard to download a tool?

Tsk, like that'll be enough to make the game run fine on all computers. I got tired of all the tweaking and switched to consoles. Problem solved
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#13 TheDuke38
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[QUOTE="Raizeen"]

You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

Black_Knight_00

^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PC

Besides Blizzard's games, same thing for me, but since there's no StarCraft 2 on PS3...

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#14 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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beats me, my 260, never gets above 50 degrees, when im playing, and Im averything is pretty much maxed (apart from the aa). There does indeed seem to be some odd things going on with some cards, but hard as heck to zero in on the problem. I havent met anyone (TC not included) that had the problem.

for those that seemed to have problems enabeling v. sync seemed to do the job, why it did not for tc I have no idea... tryied cleaning the card? and updating drivers? otherwise I dont have a suggestion, sorry :(

might help if you knew who made your 8800, might be that it does not read its own temps as fast as it should. also: do you have a program to adjust the fan speed? might help if you do not, and just manually kick it up.

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#15 VladJasonDrac
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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Raizeen"]

You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

Iantheone

^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PC

Cause its too hard to download a tool?

Nah just because it is annoying.

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Sounds like you're computer is broken, and it's either a hardware or a driver issue. Why would you possibly think that Starcraft 2 is the problem?

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#17 VinnoT
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Sounds like you're computer is broken, and it's either a hardware or a driver issue. Why would you possibly think that Starcraft 2 is the problem?

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Lol I was going to say this too. Maybe the card is just FUBAR.
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#18 wizdom
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I haven't heard this problem from most gamers, I only heard of one or two people having this problem, if it's just 2 people why spend a ton of money and resources fixing it?
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#20 anthonycg
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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Raizeen"]

You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

Raizeen

^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PC

So you admit to being a no good noob then who is so lazy you cant install one program on your computer then drag click apply and not worry about overheating issues? No wonder you went to consoles then cause computers seem to be a bit to much work on your small brain.

He didn't hurt your feelings or anything did he? :?\

Everyone doesn't want to go out of their way to fix problems that shouldn't be there in the first place. Perhaps your god-like awesomeness and really big brain can deal but most just don't want to bother.

Some people like PC gaming, some people like console gaming and some like both. It's rather disturbing that this somehow compells you to spew insults...

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#21 Black_Knight_00
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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Raizeen"]

You should download EVGA Precision since you have a nvidia card then you can monitor how warm your computer gets then you can adjust the fan speed manualy and you wont have to worry about the computer overheating cause of fans not increasing in speed when they are suposed to. Or you can go on and let it do it self and eventualy let the same thing happend again and not learning anything.

Raizeen

^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PC

So you admit to being a no good noob then who is so lazy you cant install one program on your computer then drag click apply and not worry about overheating issues? No wonder you went to consoles then cause computers seem to be a bit to much work on your small brain.

Heh, there's always a flamer, isn't there..? For your information I work in the computers field, so I guess I'm no 'noob'.. Also, if you want to waste your time tweaking your $60 game to get it to work on your gaming PC, be my guest. Me, I prefer popping my $60 game in my console and play right away, without any problem like online activations, DRM, driver issues, software compatibility issues, hardware compatibility issues, directx issues, OS issues, crashes, freezes, overheats and so on. Have fun, and show some manners next time you post on these boards.
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[QUOTE="Raizeen"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] ^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PCBlack_Knight_00

So you admit to being a no good noob then who is so lazy you cant install one program on your computer then drag click apply and not worry about overheating issues? No wonder you went to consoles then cause computers seem to be a bit to much work on your small brain.

Heh, there's always a flamer, isn't there..? For your information I work in the computers field, so I guess I'm no 'noob'.. Also, if you want to waste your time tweaking your $60 game to get it to work on your gaming PC, be my guest. Me, I prefer popping my $60 game in my console and play right away, without any problem like online activations, DRM, driver issues, software compatibility issues, hardware compatibility issues, directx issues, OS issues, crashes, freezes, overheats and so on. Have fun, and show some manners next time you post on these boards.

Perhaps if you took the time to upgrade like i did this year..Spend about 500 every 4 to 5 years..Maybe your pc would actually work..Look an 8800 will not work a new game on max with todays games...Ive had to upgrad from my 8800 3 years ago..Picked up a 250 to hold me over till i bought my 470 card..Now im good for another 4 years..How many consoles have you gone through since than maybe 3..If its a xbox 3 for sure..Im on my second xbox an dont complain..Thats 300 bucks every five years same as my pc upgrade..Its costs money to game..Sorry but its life...You cant affoard it dont complain about it..

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Perhaps if you took the time to upgrade like i did this year..Spend about 500 every 4 to 5 years..Maybe your pc would actually work..Look an 8800 will not work a new game on max with todays games...Ive had to upgrad from my 8800 3 years ago..Picked up a 250 to hold me over till i bought my 470 card..Now im good for another 4 years..How many consoles have you gone through since than maybe 3..If its a xbox 3 for sure..Im on my second xbox an dont complain..Thats 300 bucks every five years same as my pc upgrade..Its costs money to game..Sorry but its life...You cant affoard it dont complain about it..

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Either you're just showing off your rig or you missed the point by a mile. Just read my posts again.

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[QUOTE="Raizeen"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] ^ And this is why I stopped gaming on PCBlack_Knight_00

So you admit to being a no good noob then who is so lazy you cant install one program on your computer then drag click apply and not worry about overheating issues? No wonder you went to consoles then cause computers seem to be a bit to much work on your small brain.

Heh, there's always a flamer, isn't there..? For your information I work in the computers field, so I guess I'm no 'noob'.. Also, if you want to waste your time tweaking your $60 game to get it to work on your gaming PC, be my guest. Me, I prefer popping my $60 game in my console and play right away, without any problem like online activations, DRM, driver issues, software compatibility issues, hardware compatibility issues, directx issues, OS issues, crashes, freezes, overheats and so on. Have fun, and show some manners next time you post on these boards.

Glad I don't have to tweak my computer much besides the odd driver update here and there and still get games to run fine on my PC. Not much to hassle with on my end.
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#26 StopThePresses
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I have an issue with my card getting very hot with certain parts of various games, and it is related to the issue of drawing frames too rapidly. I blame the card hardware / software designers. I've never blamed game developers for this issue. I think StarCraft II is taking heat for this just because it's such a high profile game.
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We had a long thread in the PC & Mac Games forum about this, and pretty much came to agreement that the problem is with cheap and poorly designed cards that probably would over-heat regardless of what game you're running. Video cards are supposed to draw as many frames per second as possible. It's not Blizzard's fault that cheap budget cards over-heat becuase they never had sufficient cooling to begin with... these same cards would over-heat from any demanding game, and if they work properly they will shut down before the heat has gone too far. All good video cards have temperature sensors and customizable temperature thresholds, allowing the user to set the cut-off temperature when the card, and the whole PC, shuts down to prevent a flaming hot death of scorching solder. If that feature isn't there, or is not working properly, that's not Blizzard's fault, that is entirely the fault of the card manufacturer. If working too hard killed video cards ATI and nVidia wouldn't allow for over-clocking options in the driver control panel, and Stanford would have been sued over their GPU folding client a long time ago. The only reason this is even getting headlines is because it's Starcraft 2, and because of the very bad bug nVidia accidentally released while Starcarft 2 was in beta and their beta testers were in the majority of affected users. Easy fix: Go into the game's graphics options and enable V-sync. It will sync the game's frame rate to the refresh rate of your monitor and keep it there.
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#28 StopThePresses
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We had a long thread in the PC & Mac Games forum about this, and pretty much came to agreement that the problem is with cheap and poorly designed cards that probably would over-heat regardless of what game you're running. Video cards are supposed to draw as many frames per second as possible. It's not Blizzard's fault that cheap budget cards over-heat becuase they never had sufficient cooling to begin with... these same cards would over-heat from any demanding game, and if they work properly they will shut down before the heat has gone too far. All good video cards have temperature sensors and customizable temperature thresholds, allowing the user to set the cut-off temperature when the card, and the whole PC, shuts down to prevent a flaming hot death of scorching solder. If that feature isn't there, or is not working properly, that's not Blizzard's fault, that is entirely the fault of the card manufacturer. If working too hard killed video cards ATI and nVidia wouldn't allow for over-clocking options in the driver control panel, and Stanford would have been sued over their GPU folding client a long time ago. The only reason this is even getting headlines is because it's Starcraft 2, and because of the very bad bug nVidia accidentally released while Starcarft 2 was in beta and their beta testers were in the majority of affected users. Easy fix: Go into the game's graphics options and enable V-sync. It will sync the game's frame rate to the refresh rate of your monitor and keep it there.ChiliDragon
I disagree that a video card should draw as many frames per second as possible. Card designers should know the tolerance levels and limit the frames. If a card draws 10,000 frames per second, there is basically zero utility in that for typical consumer usage. I think one would be hard-pressed to even discern any difference over 120 FPS.

It isn't like anyone has a monitor with such an obscenely high refresh rate anyway. Such a thing would similarly be rather pointless.

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#29 ChiliDragon
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I disagree that a video card should draw as many frames per second as possible. Card designers should know the tolerance levels and limit the frames. If a card draws 10,000 frames per second, there is basically zero utility in that for typical consumer usage. I think one would be hard-pressed to even discern any difference over 120 FPS.StopThePresses
Fair point. I should probably change it to say "as many frames per second as necessary". :) I still maintain that my overall point is correct though. If working at 100% capacity kills a video card, something was wrong with the card to begin with.
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[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]I disagree that a video card should draw as many frames per second as possible. Card designers should know the tolerance levels and limit the frames. If a card draws 10,000 frames per second, there is basically zero utility in that for typical consumer usage. I think one would be hard-pressed to even discern any difference over 120 FPS.ChiliDragon
Fair point. I should probably change it to say "as many frames per second as necessary". :) I still maintain that my overall point is correct though. If working at 100% capacity kills a video card, something was wrong with the card to begin with.

Well, I guess what I was getting at was that it shouldn't even be getting hot enough for the fail-safe to kick in in the first place. There's really no reason for it to be doing all that extra work. I don't know the exact details of why that happens, but I would guess it has something to do with the frame buffers having a heavier load than they were designed for.