Stop holding my hand - if you are that much of a n00b then RTFM!

What do we think of the in game tuturials and the general level of in game "help" that it seems every game has these days?

Maybe its just in my head, but this seems to be on the increase to the point where its starting to get in the way of the game play. If people need to know that you move the control stick to look around, then maybe gaming is not for them!?

What is wrong with just Reading The Freaking* Manual.

*for the benefit of GS

The first games that started to be a little bit subtle about it and blend it into the gameplay amused me, but now it just annoys me. Esp the really really basic things like moving the stick to make you move!

As long as it's subtle then it's all good.

To be honest like all learning it's best to actually do the motions than read about them. So, to help your fingers get used to all the new maneouvers they're about to do a tutorial is a good thing to have.

I don't mind tutorials, but I hate when in-game characters say things like: "to do this, press the select button". It breaks the immersion like a hammer does with crystal.Black_Knight_00

CODEC conversations in MGS games are a perfect example of this immersion shattering phenomenon...

It's quicker and I prefer hand's on experience.Sins-of-Mosin

I agree, its better then reading a game manual.

The games that give you tuturials as a seperate thing are the way to go, like a different option in the menu. So if you know what you're doing or you just want to wing it, you can just start the actual game.

"Hey Master Chief! Look up, then down!". Stupid. :D

As long as the tutorial fits the game, or is just needed, I don't mind it. For example, the tutorial in halo CE fitted perfectly in the game, and was subtle. As soon as you needed to crouch for the first time, it just popped up at the side of the screen how you should do it etc. It never got in the way of gameplay really.

Games like skate on the other hand need to have a thorough tutorial, because the game mechanics are unlike any other game. If you're playing your tenth fps, you kinda understand what every button does, but if a game is completely different than everything else I prefer to get used to it in game rather than from a book. You also learn it better if you can do the action right away.

Waitaminit... games come with... manuals?67gt500

It depends. Sometimes the tutorial segments are really well done incorporated into the game.

But I do hate certain tutorial levels, like mandatory training segments, etc.

I don't mind tutorials, but I hate when in-game characters say things like: "to do this, press the select button". It breaks the immersion like a hammer does with crystal.Black_Knight_00

That makes me puke mate.