Suikoden 3 PAL?

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for gormo4
gormo4

5401

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 92

User Lists: 0

#1 gormo4
Member since 2008 • 5401 Posts

Hey, I'm a massive suikoden fan and I really wanna play suikoden 3 but is it true THERE ARE NO PAL VERSIONS?

I REALLY NEED AN ANSWER PLEASE :D

If there is no PAL version is there anything I can get (apart from an NTSU PS2) than can convert it.. I've seen some things on EBAY but not sure what they do..:cry:

HELP PLEASE

Avatar image for liquidzero123
liquidzero123

7111

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2 liquidzero123
Member since 2004 • 7111 Posts
There is a Suikoden 4, 5 and Tactics, but I don't know about 3. Sorry it's not the answer you were looking for, but I thought it might help a little. I've had a look at 6 major UK game stores and all that's coming up is 4, 5 and Tactics. That might be a sign that 3 is not PAL.
Avatar image for gormo4
gormo4

5401

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 92

User Lists: 0

#3 gormo4
Member since 2008 • 5401 Posts

There is a Suikoden 4, 5 and Tactics, but I don't know about 3. Sorry it's not the answer you were looking for, but I thought it might help a little. I've had a look at 6 major UK game stores and all that's coming up is 4, 5 and Tactics. That might be a sign that 3 is not PAL.liquidzero123

Ok, thanks for your reply, apprecite it :S

Been looking on the internet at PAL -> NTSU converters for PS2/WII/XBOX.. dunno if this is what I want though..

Again, thx for reply.

Avatar image for Meska2
Meska2

392

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#4 Meska2
Member since 2006 • 392 Posts
I believe those PAL > NTSU converters are for when you have that special nono(modchip) in your console.
because how else are you going to get a retail copy of a game converted?
Avatar image for Kusimekaa
Kusimekaa

194

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 Kusimekaa
Member since 2007 • 194 Posts
Yeah same, i'm a massive Suikoden fan and i hear III is great but i cant play it, really annoys me :/
Avatar image for mohmaaytah
mohmaaytah

2397

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#6 mohmaaytah
Member since 2003 • 2397 Posts

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but no it was not released in PAL. Those boxes you saw are nothing to do with playing NTSC games, older PAL TVs would display NTSC games in black and white, now TVs tend to have all standards incorporated.

I feel your pain man, this was one of the first games I imported when I got my PS2 from the US.

Avatar image for bardos-the-3rd
bardos-the-3rd

323

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#7 bardos-the-3rd
Member since 2008 • 323 Posts

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but no it was not released in PAL. Those boxes you saw are nothing to do with playing NTSC games, older PAL TVs would display NTSC games in black and white, now TVs tend to have all standards incorporated.

mohmaaytah
that is only half of the truth,with an rgb cable(and a tv that is compatible with this mode) you can playntsc/60hz games in a pal tv without the black white problem.
Avatar image for gormo4
gormo4

5401

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 92

User Lists: 0

#8 gormo4
Member since 2008 • 5401 Posts

Uh.. so is there any way I can get suikoden 3 NTSU to work on a PAL ps2 and a 50hz tv

I don't wanna go and buy a NTSU PS2 thts al..

Avatar image for TheLegendKnight
TheLegendKnight

1853

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#9 TheLegendKnight
Member since 2007 • 1853 Posts
why do you bother for the worst Suikoden game i dont understand
Avatar image for gormo4
gormo4

5401

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 92

User Lists: 0

#10 gormo4
Member since 2008 • 5401 Posts

why do you bother for the worst Suikoden game i dont understandTheLegendKnight

But it was rated a 9 on gamespot? ^^

Avatar image for mohmaaytah
mohmaaytah

2397

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#11 mohmaaytah
Member since 2003 • 2397 Posts

that is only half of the truth,with an rgb cable(and a tv that is compatible with this mode) you can playntsc/60hz games in a pal tv without the black white problem.bardos-the-3rd

I think you are wrong on that one, my cousin had a PAL PS1 which he modded and one time he got a game that was natively NTSC and it only displayed in black and white. By RGB I take it you mean SCART or RCA, well he was using RCA and without that convertor no color would come on. If I am way off the mark then correct me on this.

Avatar image for 3KindgomsRandy
3KindgomsRandy

15488

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#12 3KindgomsRandy
Member since 2005 • 15488 Posts

why do you bother for the worst Suikoden game i dont understandTheLegendKnight

On the other hand, there is a significant group that believes III to be the BEST Suikoden game.

Avatar image for bardos-the-3rd
bardos-the-3rd

323

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#13 bardos-the-3rd
Member since 2008 • 323 Posts

[QUOTE="bardos-the-3rd"] that is only half of the truth,with an rgb cable(and a tv that is compatible with this mode) you can playntsc/60hz games in a pal tv without the black white problem.mohmaaytah

I think you are wrong on that one, my cousin had a PAL PS1 which he modded and one time he got a game that was natively NTSC and it only displayed in black and white. By RGB I take it you mean SCART or RCA, well he was using RCA and without that convertor no color would come on. If I am way off the mark then correct me on this.

before I had this cable I was unable to play ps2 games in 60hz(don't ask me why but I was able to play dreamcast and gamecube games without this cable)

this kind of cable is special,and no,it's not an RCA cable,but it's a special type of SCART cable

if you live in europe try to find one ,but you need to have a tv that has the RGB mode,in the case of my tv you have to press the scart button one more time, you can also see the games in a higer resolution(though not as high as an HDTV cable) but if you try to se a movie on DVD,the colors on the screen turn green

Avatar image for N8A
N8A

18602

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#14 N8A
Member since 2007 • 18602 Posts

[QUOTE="TheLegendKnight"]why do you bother for the worst Suikoden game i dont understand3KindgomsRandy

On the other hand, there is a significant group that believes III to be the BEST Suikoden game.

randy is always fighting the good fight!
Avatar image for mohmaaytah
mohmaaytah

2397

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#15 mohmaaytah
Member since 2003 • 2397 Posts

before I had this cable I was unable to play ps2 games in 60hz(don't ask me why but I was able to play dreamcast and gamecube games without this cable)

this kind of cable is special,and no,it's not an RCA cable,but it's a special type of SCART cable

if you live in europe try to find one ,but you need to have a tv that has the RGB mode,in the case of my tv you have to press the scart button one more time, you can also see the games in a higer resolution(though not as high as an HDTV cable) but if you try to se a movie on DVD,the colors on the screen turn green

bardos-the-3rd

Its embarrassing being an electrical engineering graduate and struggling with this but I finally got it sussed out. It is not true conversion you get, its only color conversion which is simple to implement. True conversion is a whole different matter altogether and the equipment needed to do that is far more expensive than the $20 or so you need to spend to get color conversion. With the simple method you may notice tearing in the picture if you have a keen eye, though most of us dont notice it since its 24 or 30 frames per second. This is no more a problem with modern sets because they can automatically switch between sources and it is sorted out internally.

Apologies to the TC for going way off topic.To answer your question about there being any way you can get it to work on a PAL PS2, the answer would be not without you modding the PS2 (which we cant discuss on the forums) since the consoles are region locked.

Avatar image for TheLegendKnight
TheLegendKnight

1853

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#16 TheLegendKnight
Member since 2007 • 1853 Posts

[QUOTE="TheLegendKnight"]why do you bother for the worst Suikoden game i dont understand3KindgomsRandy

On the other hand, there is a significant group that believes III to be the BEST Suikoden game.

those are amazing people that can overcome any swamp... i dont like to get dirty

But it was rated a 9 on gamespot? ^^

gormo4
they even gave that score to halo, so what ?
Avatar image for bardos-the-3rd
bardos-the-3rd

323

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#17 bardos-the-3rd
Member since 2008 • 323 Posts

Its embarrassing being an electrical engineering graduate and struggling with this but I finally got it sussed out. It is not true conversion you get, its only color conversion which is simple to implement. True conversion is a whole different matter altogether and the equipment needed to do that is far more expensive than the $20 or so you need to spend to get color conversion. With the simple method you may notice tearing in the picture if you have a keen eye, though most of us dont notice it since its 24 or 30 frames per second. This is no more a problem with modern sets because they can automatically switch between sources and it is sorted out internally.

mohmaaytah

yes, now we are talking, thanks for the information ,though I need to say that I see the difference between the graphics, I was unhappy with my 360 because I only played all games with an RGB cable until then and I never played my 360 until I got an RGB csble. (I understand a lot about games but not about this kind of things)

I didn't mentioned the cable because the regional problem,I did it because of the discussion about the black white problem.

could you please tell me what an RCA cable is?, I got no clue.

Avatar image for gormo4
gormo4

5401

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 92

User Lists: 0

#18 gormo4
Member since 2008 • 5401 Posts
rite ... yeh?
Avatar image for mohmaaytah
mohmaaytah

2397

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#19 mohmaaytah
Member since 2003 • 2397 Posts
It is the regular yellow white and red cables we have used all those years, read about it here.
Avatar image for bardos-the-3rd
bardos-the-3rd

323

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#21 bardos-the-3rd
Member since 2008 • 323 Posts

It is the regular yellow white and red cables we have used all those years, read about it here.mohmaaytah

so if I'm right the scart cable don't need to have the three cable,and an rca don't need the big connector. and it's called like one or another depending on the type of conection of your tv?! am I right?

Avatar image for Treflis
Treflis

13757

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#22 Treflis
Member since 2004 • 13757 Posts

I was asked about this for a long time ago, several years infact.
and no, you either need to get a NTSL Playstation 2 or manually convert your own but you can ruin it permanently if you try that.

You could ask at your local video game store about it.