Tentative late 2008 exclusive releases for 360 full of variety?

I was just looking through some of the games that are basically being mentioned as 2008 releases for later this year and I can't help but be impressed on how varied the line up is, particularly compared to last year (which was pretty good with Bioshock, PGR4, Halo 3 and Mass Effect). With Too Human, Alan Wake, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Splinter Cell Conviction, APB, Halo Wars and Gears of War 2, that's pretty impressive. And those are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. There's only one pure shooter in that bunch, and its not even an FPS! They're doing a much better job of mixing things up this year.

What's sorta weird is how the tentative PS3 exclusive lineup for later this year might have less variety than last year for them and less than the 360. With Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Socom Confrontation, Motorstorm 2, and Resistance 2, there are 3 shooters with 2 of them being FPS. I'm not knocking the lineup, as there are definitely hot titles there. Just ironic that the exclusive lineup is so chock full of game-types that the 360 has been lambasted for.

Regardless, late 2008 looks like a frustratingly fantastic time for a borderline recession-challenged gaming consumer ...

Yeah the 360's lineup for this year is better than people give it credit for. The PS3's also great with games being released on the PSN like LBP, Wipeout, Echochrome etc.

What I'm really liking this year is the great summer lineup; with MGS4, NG2, Battlefield Bad Company and few others.

Yeah the 360's lineup for this year is better than people give it credit for. The PS3's also great with games being released on the PSN like LBP, Wipeout, Echochrome etc.

What I'm really liking this year is the great summer lineup; with MGS4, NG2, Battlefield Bad Company and few others.

D3s7rUc71oN

Yeah, thanks for mentioning a few more that I didn't think of for the PS3. And these are just the exclusives. You add multiplatform high profile titles and its a gamers dream/financial nightmare!

White Knight Story, Tekken 6, Heavy Rain, The Agency, Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaia 3, hopefully Yakza 3, etc... both systems have a varied lineup.rragnaar

Not so sure about how many of those we'll see in the US this year, but I'm sure all of that will be cleared up by .... well, when did we know Army of Two was pushed back to 2008?

You know, now that I think about it, we have no idea what will actually make it out this year. But even if HALF of these make it out and, more importantly, live up to their potential then there's some hot stuff coming.

But MS does deserve some particular credit, though. As a 360 owner, I'll be the first to complain that too many of the high profile games have been shooters. I've been longing for more variety (quality platforming in particular) and they are bringing it in this 3rd year. The Playstation has never had that problem.

[QUOTE="D3s7rUc71oN"]

Yeah the 360's lineup for this year is better than people give it credit for. The PS3's also great with games being released on the PSN like LBP, Wipeout, Echochrome etc.

What I'm really liking this year is the great summer lineup; with MGS4, NG2, Battlefield Bad Company and few others.

Darth_Tigris

Yeah, thanks for mentioning a few more that I didn't think of for the PS3. And these are just the exclusives. You add multiplatform high profile titles and its a gamers dream/financial nightmare!

White Knight Story, Tekken 6, Heavy Rain, The Agency, Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaia 3, hopefully Yakza 3, etc... both systems have a varied lineup.rragnaar

Not so sure about how many of those we'll see in the US this year, but I'm sure all of that will be cleared up by .... well, when did we know Army of Two was pushed back to 2008?

You know, now that I think about it, we have no idea what will actually make it out this year. But even if HALF of these make it out and, more importantly, live up to their potential then there's some hot stuff coming.

But MS does deserve some particular credit, though. As a 360 owner, I'll be the first to complain that too many of the high profile games have been shooters. I've been longing for more variety (quality platforming in particular) and they are bringing it in this 3rd year. The Playstation has never had that problem.

There is no guarantee that we will see the 360 titles this year either. Both systems have great line-up + a abundance of multiplats.

I was just looking through some of the games that are basically being mentioned as 2008 releases for later this year and I can't help but be impressed on how varied the line up is, particularly compared to last year (which was pretty good with Bioshock, PGR4, Halo 3 and Mass Effect). With Too Human, Alan Wake, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Splinter Cell Conviction, APB, Halo Wars and Gears of War 2, that's pretty impressive. And those are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. There's only one pure shooter in that bunch, and its not even an FPS! They're doing a much better job of mixing things up this year.

What's sorta weird is how the tentative PS3 exclusive lineup for later this year might have less variety than last year for them and less than the 360. With Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Socom Confrontation, Motorstorm 2, and Resistance 2, there are 3 shooters with 2 of them being FPS. I'm not knocking the lineup, as there are definitely hot titles there. Just ironic that the exclusive lineup is so chock full of game-types that the 360 has been lambasted for.

Regardless, late 2008 looks like a frustratingly fantastic time for a borderline recession-challenged gaming consumer ...

Darth_Tigris

Now that I look at the lists together of upcoming exclusive games, the 360 definitely has a little more variety (and even quality) than the PS3 lineup I have to say. I'm not sure why I've seen some Sony fans act as if PS3's lineup is at least equal or better than the X360's.

One thing's for sure though, you can't go wrong with either system this year.

I was just looking through some of the games that are basically being mentioned as 2008 releases for later this year and I can't help but be impressed on how varied the line up is, particularly compared to last year (which was pretty good with Bioshock, PGR4, Halo 3 and Mass Effect). With Too Human, Alan Wake, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Splinter Cell Conviction, APB, Halo Wars and Gears of War 2, that's pretty impressive. And those are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. There's only one pure shooter in that bunch, and its not even an FPS! They're doing a much better job of mixing things up this year.

What's sorta weird is how the tentative PS3 exclusive lineup for later this year might have less variety than last year for them and less than the 360. With Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Socom Confrontation, Motorstorm 2, and Resistance 2, there are 3 shooters with 2 of them being FPS. I'm not knocking the lineup, as there are definitely hot titles there. Just ironic that the exclusive lineup is so chock full of game-types that the 360 has been lambasted for.

Regardless, late 2008 looks like a frustratingly fantastic time for a borderline recession-challenged gaming consumer ...

Darth_Tigris

What do you see in Too Human (which shares the same control scheme as Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Death by Degrees and Rise to Honor, all of whom controlled horribly)? I agree that APB is an extremely promising game (I was unimpressed by Crackdown, but I don't hold developer's past games against them) that isn't getting the attention it deserves. Pitting an accomplished/veteran player against a squad of new players sounds like brilliant balancing.

I see the X360's line-up as a strength, not a weakness, I think its problems are a lack of aggressiveness on price cuts, high accessory costs (looks in direction of hard drive and wireless network adapter) and unreliable hardware (though as a guy who recently got his PS3 back from the shop, I can personally attest that Sony isn't walking on water either).

What do you see in Too Human (which shares the same control scheme as Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Death by Degrees and Rise to Honor, all of whom controlled horribly)? I agree that APB is an extremely promising game (I was unimpressed by Crackdown, but I don't hold developer's past games against them) that isn't getting the attention it deserves. Pitting an accomplished/veteran player against a squad of new players sounds like brilliant balancing.

I see the X360's line-up as a strength, not a weakness, I think its problems are a lack of aggressiveness on price cuts, high accessory costs (looks in direction of hard drive and wireless network adapter) and unreliable hardware (though as a guy who recently got his PS3 back from the shop, I can personally attest that Sony isn't walking on water either).

CarnageHeart

The reactions from those of the gaming media and devs that had extended play time with it at GDC. The response was overwhelmingly positive, even from those that lambasted it previously (e.g. the EGM editor that ripped its E3 '06 showing now praises it). These guys have egos and usually once a game burns them they aren't quick to praise it later. This turn around from those that have actually played it bodes well.

My most anticipated exclusive (i guess) games this year are

1) MGS4

2) Fable 2

3) Alan Wake

and 4) Killzone 2.

(I left out GT5 Prologue...just cause)

I would say this year is much more balanced then last when comparing 360 and PS3 so as a multi console owner its exactly what you hope for. There is no way I could not own both consideing my 2nd and 3rd are one system and 1st and 4th most awaited are another. I will say that im skeptical on many games on that list. Too human I have zero faith in, judging by videos i've seen, Splinter cell is heading toward Ass creed? No thanks. Plus I am not liking the way the series was heading with DA. Also, I got burned out on Resistance and I think this game will be more of the same so I dont expect it to be buyable. Im also not into platformers (banjo).

Theres also always games that take you by surprise and end up being some of the better games of the year so all in all I think this year is really promising (way better than 07).

[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]What do you see in Too Human (which shares the same control scheme as Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Death by Degrees and Rise to Honor, all of whom controlled horribly)? I agree that APB is an extremely promising game (I was unimpressed by Crackdown, but I don't hold developer's past games against them) that isn't getting the attention it deserves. Pitting an accomplished/veteran player against a squad of new players sounds like brilliant balancing.

I see the X360's line-up as a strength, not a weakness, I think its problems are a lack of aggressiveness on price cuts, high accessory costs (looks in direction of hard drive and wireless network adapter) and unreliable hardware (though as a guy who recently got his PS3 back from the shop, I can personally attest that Sony isn't walking on water either).

Darth_Tigris

The reactions from those of the gaming media and devs that had extended play time with it at GDC. The response was overwhelmingly positive, even from those that lambasted it previously (e.g. the EGM editor that ripped its E3 '06 showing now praises it). These guys have egos and usually once a game burns them they aren't quick to praise it later. This turn around from those that have actually played it bodes well.

You guys should really check out the Developer Diary trilogy for Too HUman if you haven't, and this video also (explaining why Dennis never gave up on Too Human

[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]What do you see in Too Human (which shares the same control scheme as Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Death by Degrees and Rise to Honor, all of whom controlled horribly)? I agree that APB is an extremely promising game (I was unimpressed by Crackdown, but I don't hold developer's past games against them) that isn't getting the attention it deserves. Pitting an accomplished/veteran player against a squad of new players sounds like brilliant balancing.

I see the X360's line-up as a strength, not a weakness, I think its problems are a lack of aggressiveness on price cuts, high accessory costs (looks in direction of hard drive and wireless network adapter) and unreliable hardware (though as a guy who recently got his PS3 back from the shop, I can personally attest that Sony isn't walking on water either).

Darth_Tigris

The reactions from those of the gaming media and devs that had extended play time with it at GDC. The response was overwhelmingly positive, even from those that lambasted it previously (e.g. the EGM editor that ripped its E3 '06 showing now praises it). These guys have egos and usually once a game burns them they aren't quick to praise it later. This turn around from those that have actually played it bodes well.

Yeah I'm also getting pretty pumped in Too Human especially after watching the latest dev diary video that was put up on Marketplace just a couple of days ago. The stuff shown in the diary looks very cool and from some of the descriptions given about the game and the mechanics sound very interesting as well.

The video weighs in at a hefty 500 and something megs although most of it was due to a short Norwegian film that Dyack stumbled across but found interesting in showing to others saying that it may give those interested a glimpse into the idea behind Too Human. I'd definately recommend those who are interested in the game to check out the diary and even those who are skeptical about the game to check it out also because it might just make you a little more interested about the game.

[QUOTE="Darth_Tigris"][QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]What do you see in Too Human (which shares the same control scheme as Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Death by Degrees and Rise to Honor, all of whom controlled horribly)? I agree that APB is an extremely promising game (I was unimpressed by Crackdown, but I don't hold developer's past games against them) that isn't getting the attention it deserves. Pitting an accomplished/veteran player against a squad of new players sounds like brilliant balancing.

I see the X360's line-up as a strength, not a weakness, I think its problems are a lack of aggressiveness on price cuts, high accessory costs (looks in direction of hard drive and wireless network adapter) and unreliable hardware (though as a guy who recently got his PS3 back from the shop, I can personally attest that Sony isn't walking on water either).

HiResDes

The reactions from those of the gaming media and devs that had extended play time with it at GDC. The response was overwhelmingly positive, even from those that lambasted it previously (e.g. the EGM editor that ripped its E3 '06 showing now praises it). These guys have egos and usually once a game burns them they aren't quick to praise it later. This turn around from those that have actually played it bodes well.

You guys should really check out the Developer Diary trilogy for Too HUman if you haven't, and this video also (explaining why Dennis never gave up on Too Human

You beat me to it and also with links. You win this round. :P

That third dev diary is very cool though.

Well dude I didn't even know it was on the marketplace, I'd recommend getting it there because the quality will be so superior, and I think the third one if definitely worth keeping on your HD.HiResDes

Yeah that's were I do most of my video downloading and watching. I've seen the first two but I don't think I have them anymore but I'm keeping the third as I'll probably watch it again.

[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]What do you see in Too Human (which shares the same control scheme as Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Death by Degrees and Rise to Honor, all of whom controlled horribly)? I agree that APB is an extremely promising game (I was unimpressed by Crackdown, but I don't hold developer's past games against them) that isn't getting the attention it deserves. Pitting an accomplished/veteran player against a squad of new players sounds like brilliant balancing.

I see the X360's line-up as a strength, not a weakness, I think its problems are a lack of aggressiveness on price cuts, high accessory costs (looks in direction of hard drive and wireless network adapter) and unreliable hardware (though as a guy who recently got his PS3 back from the shop, I can personally attest that Sony isn't walking on water either).

Darth_Tigris

The reactions from those of the gaming media and devs that had extended play time with it at GDC. The response was overwhelmingly positive, even from those that lambasted it previously (e.g. the EGM editor that ripped its E3 '06 showing now praises it). These guys have egos and usually once a game burns them they aren't quick to praise it later. This turn around from those that have actually played it bodes well.

The gaming media has demonstrated a willingness to forgive action rpgs sloppy gameplay if they like the story well enough (looks in direction of Jade Empire, Mass Effect and Crisis Core) but I cannot given that combat comprises the majority of time one spends in rpgs of any stripe. I haven't played Too Human, but I haved played three other games which restricted one's attacks to the right analog stick and which such a system can result in flashy looking attacks (due to the computer's selection of a variety of attacks) I dislike games which take that much control out of my hands.

Of course, with multiple players (Too Human allows up to four) even the shallowest game can be engaging (I spent a lot of time playing Gauntlet, Dungeon Explorer and Champions of Norrath with a friend or three) so even if it fails as a single player game it could be a fun co-op game.