The biggest accomplishment for Next gen

Most folks are excited about next generation system for their graphical capabilities. Others are excited about the potential given to developers with the introduction of stronger hardware. However, there is one thing that has progressively gotten worse or remained the same with all modern day consoles. That being  loading times. If there is anything I want to absolutely disappear and NEVER show its ugly face again is loading times. I would like for this to be a standard feature with next gen. Couple this with super fast and responsive gameOS. 

Anyone have used an Ipad can confirm the response time between apps. The system just responds. At the moment both Xbox 360 and PS3 suffer massive performance issues when accessing the system's interface. Hopefully next gen systems would allow for quick toggling in and out of games that is onpar with something like the iPad.

Whats your take on the loading times of games?

Load times and sluggy operating systems are certainly annoying. On paper both the Durango and Orbis sound good enough to severely cut down on load times. The big thing for me is if they can manage 1080p and 60fps on everything. I'd wait a bit longer for a game to load if they could pull that off. Along with load times, I'd love to see the elimination of long start up times. I shouldn't have to see the logo of every development team, publisher and middleware licensee for a game every time I boot it up. Once is enough.rragnaar

The startup definitely needs to be reduced. Dragon's Dogma is HORRIBLE with regards to that. A person should be able to get into a game from boot in ten seconds or less.

Most folks are excited about next generation system for their graphical capabilities. Others are excited about the potential given to developers with the introduction of stronger hardware. However, there is one thing that has progressively gotten worse or remained the same with all modern day consoles. That being  loading times. If there is anything I want to absolutely disappear and NEVER show its ugly face again is loading times. I would like for this to be a standard feature with next gen. Couple this with super fast and responsive gameOS. 

Anyone have used an Ipad can confirm the response time between apps. The system just responds. At the moment both Xbox 360 and PS3 suffer massive performance issues when accessing the system's interface. Hopefully next gen systems would allow for quick toggling in and out of games that is onpar with something like the iPad.

Whats your take on the loading times of games?

Pedro

As long as they are reading from Blurays and HDDs, loading times will always be there in b/w levels. Unless of course they decide to go SSD, but those are way too expensive. 

As for acccessing OS mid game, isnt the reason MS is going with 8GB of RAM (3GB dedicated to OS) to ensure we have a iPad and Android esque experience? Sony is using ultra fast RAM as well, so their OS should be fast as well. Have you played the Vita? That thing kills apps faster than my Samsung S3. And it only has 256MB of RAM dedicated to the OS. 

I am pretty sure we will be able to have skype, netflix and internet browsers on while we play games on the next PS4 and 720. And the response time would be just as fast as it is on tablets and smartphones.

Loading times during games however, not so much. Most open world games have no loading times nowadays anyway. And linear games like Uncharted and Killzone mask these load times using cutscenes. 

I think it will remain entirely up to the developer. The same as whether or not they decide to make the target resolution for the game 1080P @ 60 FPS. There is nothing to stop them having short load times of 1080P 60 FPS games this gen if they are willing to cut back in other areas. I imagine games that push the limits of the system will still have reasonably long load times next gen.

Some good games would be nice.

yeah, load times are a pain. it's really nice playing ni no kuni where i can travel through the overworld with no load times, enter houses with a mere screen cut, and pop in dungeons or towns with a load time of about 2 seconds.

as for what i'm hoping for most, it's lower development costs. if developers don't have to bet the studio with each game, they can take more chances and that leads to a much more exciting medium. epic is promising shorter development times with their next generation unreal engine. even if it does streamline the process, i suspect the graphics rush will push costs back up with all the tricks developer have to do really maximize the hardware. still, i can hope.

Some good games would be nice.

Lance2500

Agree! Any console is only as good as its game library. It's downright amaing how quick eye-candy and good music become meaningless when you don't have solid titles.

Most of the time loading times aren't that important to me if we're talking about a linear game that's broken up into levels anyway. But man, for a game like The Elder Scrolls, no loading times when entering cities, houses, caves and castles would make a huge difference.

Short loads which don't pop up in weird places (between levels vs interrupting gameplay) aren't something I really notice.

hoping for strides toward real-time water physics.yellosnolvr

in ur dreams.:D

Loading times have got to go. Or at least be reduced to insignificant pauses. Clocked up about one hundred and fifty hours on Skyrim. Wouldn't like to think how much of that time was spent spinning around those 3D models in the loading screens. 

I think this is going to be the toughest generation yet for consoles from all the increased competion from alternative forms of gaming. I really hope the industry doesn't wound itself by extorting us like it seems to want to do by making all games one use only, therefor killing the second hand market. Do think the console market will eventually dissolve because people in the near future will just by "TVs" to play games on, but I don't think that will be for a while yet. Ripping us off will speed up the process, though.

I think that more powerful processors and more memory should certainly give developers the tools they need to drastically reduce in-game load times.  Whether or not they use those tools effectively however...

I dunno;  just my opinion but when people graduate from college with a very high GPA in computer science, I think they tend to go into fields other than game design. 

As long as they are reading from Blurays and HDDs, loading times will always be there in b/w levels. Unless of course they decide to go SSD, but those are way too expensive. 

As for acccessing OS mid game, isnt the reason MS is going with 8GB of RAM (3GB dedicated to OS) to ensure we have a iPad and Android esque experience? Sony is using ultra fast RAM as well, so their OS should be fast as well. Have you played the Vita? That thing kills apps faster than my Samsung S3. And it only has 256MB of RAM dedicated to the OS. 

I am pretty sure we will be able to have skype, netflix and internet browsers on while we play games on the next PS4 and 720. And the response time would be just as fast as it is on tablets and smartphones.

Loading times during games however, not so much. Most open world games have no loading times nowadays anyway. And linear games like Uncharted and Killzone mask these load times using cutscenes. 

S0lidSnake

The original Jak and Daxter had no loading times and it was not using a HDD but relied entirely on the DVD. Games should rely more on streaming data that doing a straight up dump into memory which takes a while.

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As long as they are reading from Blurays and HDDs, loading times will always be there in b/w levels. Unless of course they decide to go SSD, but those are way too expensive. 

As for acccessing OS mid game, isnt the reason MS is going with 8GB of RAM (3GB dedicated to OS) to ensure we have a iPad and Android esque experience? Sony is using ultra fast RAM as well, so their OS should be fast as well. Have you played the Vita? That thing kills apps faster than my Samsung S3. And it only has 256MB of RAM dedicated to the OS. 

I am pretty sure we will be able to have skype, netflix and internet browsers on while we play games on the next PS4 and 720. And the response time would be just as fast as it is on tablets and smartphones.

Loading times during games however, not so much. Most open world games have no loading times nowadays anyway. And linear games like Uncharted and Killzone mask these load times using cutscenes. 

Pedro

The original Jak and Daxter had no loading times and it was not using a HDD but relied entirely on the DVD. Games should rely more on streaming data that doing a straight up dump into memory which takes a while.

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The original Jak and Daxter had no loading times and it was not using a HDD but relied entirely on the DVD. Games should rely more on streaming data that doing a straight up dump into memory which takes a while.

ESPM400

I am sorry but you don't know what you are talking about and you don't even understand what I was talking about. So its always best when you are ignorant of a topic to stay clear. :)

I honestly have no problem with load times as long as they aren't frequent and long. 

I honestly have no problem with load times as long as they aren't frequent and long. 

Venom_Raptor

They currently tend to be this way.