The game market is stagnating...

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#1 Manbaru3
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If you look at the game industry this past year, you can definitely see there's been a slow down. There is no new innovation! The Top 10 games on Gamespot are virtually all sequels:

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood

Halo Reach

Civilization 5

Starcraft 2

COD Black OPs

Fable 3

Fallout: New Vegas

All the Madden and Final Fantasy games are the most obvious examples

Not that any of these are bad games... but there is no freshness involved, nothing new. Pretty soon the whole market is going to be a bland mix of the same classic titles repeating themselves over and over and over again...

Basically: The future of video games suck

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#2 MattDistillery
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If you look at the game industry this past year, you can definitely see there's been a slow down. There is no new innovation! The Top 10 games on Gamespot are virtually all sequels:

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood

Halo Reach

Civilization 5

Starcraft 2

COD Black OPs

Fable 3

Fallout: New Vegas

All the Madden and Final Fantasy games are the most obvious examples

Not that any of these are bad games... but there is no freshness involved, nothing new. Pretty soon the whole market is going to be a bland mix of the same classic titles repeating themselves over and over and over again...

Basically: The future of video games suck

Manbaru3

Just wait.......(This is intended as a joke for you humourless people)

Last Guardian and Brink next year are looking excelent you just have to give them a shot. The new Ip's can't compete with those established brands so they get pushed back to after the holidays it seems to be part of the modern industry.

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If you look at the game industry this past year, you can definitely see there's been a slow down. There is no new innovation! The Top 10 games on Gamespot are virtually all sequels:

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood

Halo Reach

Civilization 5

Starcraft 2

COD Black OPs

Fable 3

Fallout: New Vegas

All the Madden and Final Fantasy games are the most obvious examples

Not that any of these are bad games... but there is no freshness involved, nothing new. Pretty soon the whole market is going to be a bland mix of the same classic titles repeating themselves over and over and over again...

Basically: The future of video games suck

Manbaru3

This goes to show that video games aren't just for geeks and nerds anymore (no harm intended to anyone). So many casuals have joined in. The video game audience today doesn't care that call of duty black ops is the same exact game as call of duty 4, or that sports games get rereleased every year with 95% of the same stuff. You can blame it on video games becoming tooo popular, where indie devs cannot survive anymore and the major game demand is mostly going to little kids who get 5 games a month who will refuse anything that isn't already popular to them.

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#4 wiouds
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The gaming market have been like this for a long time.

Gamers whine load when they must wait for the games they want to come out.

Gamers nick pick new games to where other will suck the game suck.

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#5 KillerWabbit23
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Right, and PC gaming is "dying". :P

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Half the time its sequels and the other half is new IPs or reboots.
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The gaming market have been like this for a long time.

Gamers whine load when they must wait for the games they want to come out.

Gamers nick pick new games to where other will suck the game suck.

wiouds

Uh........what?

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#8 Sloan360
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If you look at the game industry this past year, you can definitely see there's been a slow down. There is no new innovation! The Top 10 games on Gamespot are virtually all sequels:

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood

Halo Reach

Civilization 5

Starcraft 2

COD Black OPs

Fable 3

Fallout: New Vegas

All the Madden and Final Fantasy games are the most obvious examples

Not that any of these are bad games... but there is no freshness involved, nothing new. Pretty soon the whole market is going to be a bland mix of the same classic titles repeating themselves over and over and over again...

Basically: The future of video games suck

Manbaru3

People like you really need to understand that gaming is big business. Look at all of those titles...they all have and will continue to sell well. Companies can't take risk because it takes millions of dollars to make games and if they can't make it back with the sales then they take a hit, which means they will stop making and producing games entirely. Innovation comes with risk...the risk of losing profit, and because of that the games that are guaranteedto sell will be made above other titles.

These games make people happy, and casual and hardcore gamers alike can't argue that there are some great games in the titles you listed.

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#9 Manbaru3
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[QUOTE="Manbaru3"]

If you look at the game industry this past year, you can definitely see there's been a slow down. There is no new innovation! The Top 10 games on Gamespot are virtually all sequels:

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood

Halo Reach

Civilization 5

Starcraft 2

COD Black OPs

Fable 3

Fallout: New Vegas

All the Madden and Final Fantasy games are the most obvious examples

Not that any of these are bad games... but there is no freshness involved, nothing new. Pretty soon the whole market is going to be a bland mix of the same classic titles repeating themselves over and over and over again...

Basically: The future of video games suck

Sloan360

People like you really need to understand that gaming is big business. Look at all of those titles...they all have and will continue to sell well. Companies can't take risk because it takes millions of dollars to make games and if they can't make it back with the sales then they take a hit, which means they will stop making and producing games entirely. Innovation comes with risk...the risk of losing profit, and because of that the games that are guaranteedto sell will be made above other titles.

These games make people happy, and casual and hardcore gamers alike can't argue that there are some great games in the titles you listed.

Okay so the companies don't want to sacrifice profits for innovation? We're just going to have the same games issued over and over again? I really don't think that people are that programmable. My point is not just that the games are going to be bland and repetitive, but that the whole industry is going to suffer pretty soon. I feel like we're in a "video game bubble" right now and it's going to pop in the next couple of years. You are exactly right, companies want to make as much money as possible so they are going to continually invest more and more into less and less innovation. While for now people's obsession with 'carrot on a stick' rewards in games such as Call of Duty will give the illusion of high value of games, in reality they are worth much less than what they are selling for. Whenever this has happened throughout history, people discover the true value of goods and the perceived value declines rapidly. This happens with any product in any market. We've been in the golden age of video games this past decade, and it is coming to an end.
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#10 Sloan360
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Okay so the companies don't want to sacrifice profits for innovation? We're just going to have the same games issued over and over again? I really don't think that people are that programmable. My point is not just that the games are going to be bland and repetitive, but that the whole industry is going to suffer pretty soon. I feel like we're in a "video game bubble" right now and it's going to pop in the next couple of years. You are exactly right, companies want to make as much money as possible so they are going to continually invest more and more into less and less innovation. While for now people's obsession with 'carrot on a stick' rewards in games such as Call of Duty will give the illusion of high value of games, in reality they are worth much less than what they are selling for. Whenever this has happened throughout history, people discover the true value of goods and the perceived value declines rapidly. This happens with any product in any market. We've been in the golden age of video games this past decade, and it is coming to an end.Manbaru3

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#11 Gamefan1986
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Do you know how hard it is to make something truly new? Gamers have been complaining about this forever it seems like. It is almost impossible to do something that has never been done before. Once a dev even decides what kind of game to make, (genre I mean) they are borrowing from/ripping off ideas. Everyone always jumps down Nintendo's throats for pumping out their franchises constantly despite the fact they rely on their franchises less than 80% of the industry. There have only been 7 Zeldas in 23 years, 6 Metroids in 24 years...How many Halos since 2001? How many CODs since 2003?

Sure there a lot of sequels, but there are also new IPs all the time from most of the major companies, like LA Noire, etc.

At least be happy that most of the time videogame sequels are BETTER than the originals, unlike most other mediums like movies.

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I don't want to see anymore 1st or 3rd person perspective shooter games with armor plated standard marine type guys going about. No more, no more. Those games are not evolving like they should.

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#13 DarkCatalyst
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This argument is stagnating. Seriously, it's been popping up on message boards for years and years, yet gaming continues, in general, to be more and more compelling and exciting as time passes. The thing to keep in mind is, there are so many gamers out there - myself included - that are deeply seated in their tastes that new franchises now have to be analyzed like a rookie athlete, and not compared directly against the established brands right away. That is, don't focus on how well they do from the very beginning, because it's really about how good they're going to be, what they develop into as time passes. Of course, by that time, it's a couple of sequels old, which makes the whole thing a catch 22. Seriously though, look at where Call of Duty was before MW outsold Halo 3. What about Assassin's Creed? It was a new franchise VERY recently and now it's on the GameSpot top 10 list you posted (and I'm willing to bet the original spent a good amount of time up there, too). There's plenty of room for new franchises in gaming, but with so many gamers already knowing exactly what they like, those franchises need to build some momentum before they can compete with the truly big names. That should really just be common sense by now.
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#14 Brendissimo35
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you're just now figuring this out? There has been little innovation in graphics since 2007, and in gameplay the market has been stagnant for most of the decade.

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The sequels aren't the problem though the lack of innovation is, just like you pointed out.
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#16 wiouds
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The problem with innovation games is that gamers nick pick them so much that other will not even look at the innovation games.

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#17 GLove093093
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Devs and publishers need to make a profit so they go with what sells.