The PC Elite Master Race, & Why They Do My Nut In...

If you like a game you see and it has been developed for home consoles then buy those consoles, simple. For some games it comes as no surprise (with a pretty long heads up) that they're either going to be console exclusives or multi-platform with home consoles in mind. I reiterate, If you like the game then buy the console/s it was announced for.

PC's get no special treatment just for being PC's, nor do their owners. I'm tired of this sense of entitlement that PC owners have like everything multi-platform should be GUARANTEED to make it to their platform day one, regardless of their being ANY indicator that they would. It has been proven that historical precedent means nothing, especially with shifting platform allegiances. I don't have a PS4 but I have an Xbox One. When they announced 'Bloodborne' for PS4, I didnt go 'I am massively disappointed', Or for a better example, when Street Fighter 5 was announced PS4 exclusive (having historically been on both microsoft and sony platforms) . I thought, I might pick up a PS4 sooner to play these game.

Whenever PC gamers see something that looks fantastic on consoles upon debut, they can't help but cry foul of there not being a PC release date. I witness it EVERY F***ING TIME. They then proceed to cry foul that something has been downgraded just because it was 'developed' on a PC but doesn't seem to have a release announcement on PC. Well no sh** Sherlock!, all games are developed on PC's. That doesn't mean they're optimised with PC's in mind nor is it an indicator that there is any intention for the developer to release the game for PC.

I may be making assumptions here but my impression of many whiny PC gamers is that they only seem to give a sh** about 'TEH GRAFIX' and dick measuring Nvidia GFX cards. I would hope that PC gamers who see there fellow PC brethren bring PC gaming into disrepute with their pettiness, would call this out and support me on these observations...

I certainly hope your responses will not prove me right

Silence!, You Console Swine!

But seriously, I do get why some are a little irked that a game they think looked interesting isn't coming to the plattform they prefer to use. I disagree that they should expect it but I do understand why some get frustrated.

Isn't until now that I can actually play the Resident Evil Remake since buying a Gamecube solely for that game at the time it came out is stupid.

Though getting irritated that others get irritated cause a game isn't coming out on their desires plattform, kinda silly to be honest.

@Treflis: there opinion doesnt irritate me, there usual responses to criticism irritate me. The way they laud pc gaming over people

And so do Playstation fanboys over Xbox fanboys and vice versa, Just ignore it and let them bicker among themselves.

My big issue is when a series like Tomb Raider that has been multiplatform for 18 years goes exclusive (even timed) to a specific platform cutting out the others. I figured out a percent of the Tomb Raider fanbase being left out due to this Xbox deal and it was around a staggering 67%.

I'm all for exclusives... from 1st and 2nd party studios. Yes, Street Fighter 5 should be on Xbox in my opinion as well.

As for PC elitists, and in turn, all fanboys, I ignore them. It's the attention they crave so we should deny them that. Power of a system doesn't matter if you're having fun. It doesn't matter if you're still playing 8 bit games on an NES.

This!

@xantufrog: I agree with the oxygen of publicity argument but PC gamers are highly obtuse. For PC gamers it ALWAYS comes down to visuals, and RAM, and GPU and technical specs, rather than any loyalty to a brand. This can be the case for console fanboys but PC fanboys do it with the existing knowledge that indeed most PC's on the market and more powerful than consoles. They make their stupid little arguments knowing the answer already and that irks me. They take away from the very real accomplishments of a game, it annoys me that they inadvertantly disrespect the game AS IS.

Today I was reading numerous comments today after the FFXV demo trailer launched which was absolutely stunning, and a lot of PC gamers pretty much stated, 'NO PC RELEASE ANNOUNCED, DISAPPOINTING' followed by 'i'll just wait for the pc release, the visuals for this looks DOWNGRADED'. This made me laugh, downgraded from what? There was never a PC version to begin with, just work in progress running on PC's lol

Honestly, the sort of reactions are mimicked by console and PC users alike, or rather the fanboys of those particular gaming methods.

Also, some of the points given are just completely out there, so to speak, like people crying foul for a downgrade for the lack of a release date. Generally, someone crying foul for a downgrade has more to do with a perceived lack in visual quality or fidelity based upon the title being focused on a console, and not for the lack of a release date.

In any case, I will agree with the TC that he may be making assumptions, and broad generalizations as well.

How about this...I own a PS4 and a PC...*Gasp*

Everyone needs to just drop the whole PC vs Console argument. They both have their good and bad. Console has some great exclusives..and its generally easier to play with a controller than on PC (its possible but it requires extra steps).

PC on the other hand does in fact have superior graphics and I can buy way more games on sale than I can on console. However, PC is more expensive to get up and running initially.

What I have observed is that even the filthiest of console fanboys will play a game on PC if it's good, but I know many PC elitists who would never touch a console, simply because it's a console, meaning they will miss out on The Last of Us because it's on a system their "religion" says it's not kosher to play.

My pc loves your consolite tears. Cry away that my games are more enjoyable than yours. A game is a game, but a better looking/running game is a better version of that game. Mods and all the other benefits show pc as a value leader, along with a more competitive marketplace for games (steam/gog/humblebundle/amazon sales, which are far more discounted and frequent than for consoles).

I have more games on pc than I'll ever have time to play. With work and other life responsibilities, my gaming time is limited. When I game, I want the best version of whatever game I'm playing, and that happens to be on pc. I also rip movies to my pc to play on any screen in my house, and I don't have to swap the discs for dvd or bluray. I could pirate, but I'm not a dick. The value of my pc is much better for the dollar than any console.

However, I know not everybody can have a nice pc. But even for $700 or so, you'd have a much better rig than either console, with more usability as well.

When you don't have a lot of money, you justify consoles. Or even if you just like to game, you may just have a console. If you are a gaming enthusiast, you will have a pc. In car analogies, you have a Corvette. And it's a sweet ride. But I like cars more than you do, so I have an Agera R, or a Veyron. Enjoy your games, but know that it's funny to me that when I have a better time playing 95% of the same games and you bitch about it. I also have awesome exclusives.

I do agree with the TC that pc fanboys talk wayyyy too much about graphics/fps/resolution etc, for better or for worse, you will see pc gamers either bragging about how smooth x games run at 120fps or hear huge amounts of bitching that x game is locked at 30fps.

I personally am a pc gamer, and I think gaming on a PC has a ton of advantages over gaming on a console, which is why after 30 years of console gaming I have made the switch. what annoys me about the pc gaming community is they never talk about all the other cool features of pc games and just blather on endlessly about fps and other such things that console gamers couldn't care less about.

I understand your perspective, and I have seen the "master racers" in action. However, I should note that you are making a big generalization here regarding "PC gamers" as a whole and the fanboys you refer to as "master racers". I, for example, am an avid PC gamer as well as console gamer, and do not rag on consoles (indeed, as mentioned, I also happily game on consoles). It would be good to keep in mind the distinction between a noisy sub-population and the broader population of people that just want to have fun and play games.

I also think there's a BIG difference between people talking down on consoles based on their hardware, and the initial focus of your post: people complaining something they would like to play isn't coming out on their platform. Didn't you just post a thread about how hard it is to have to wait 7 years for a game you are excited about? Could not some disappointment that a cool game is missing from your platform entirely (or may not get ported over for several years) be viewed through a similar lens?

Someone being disappointed that a game they would like isn't coming out on their platform is... well that person is sad and one might argue people who DO have access to the game should sympathize with their plight rather than react as "what a bunch of whiners". One the other hand, someone being a jerk about "my system's better than yours" should be criticized for being a jerk. Kind of different scenarios.

As a more general comment (applicable to several posts from both sides of the fence at this point), let's steer this away from an "us" vs "them" thread. I appreciate that the OP is simply double-posting a blog post (where he has more leeway in how he frames things), but in the comments section this could degrade into "system wars" material quickly. Indeed, it seems to be.

This isn't directed specifically at you, the OP, but is put forth as a reminder to all involved in the thread. All platforms have their pros and cons, and not all gamers on those platforms are fanboys - it would be good for everyone to keep that in mind and avoid trying to put down someone else's platform in this forum.

I pray Sir, that one day you shall feel the warm inclusive love of Gaben's embrace.

<3

I don't understand why someone should be loyal to a brand, or why being loyal to a brand is considered a positive quality.

What a gross generalization. The EXACT same can be said for PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo fanboys as well. YOU only see the PC gamers acting this way because that's only what YOU want (or rather don't want) to see. You're so blinded by hate that you can't see anything else. Why do you see it as you vs them? Did they personally hurt you by bragging or complaining about games (as if no console gamer has never done that)?

PC gamers only care about graphics? That explains the explosion of low graphic intensive indie games in recent years. I guess that's why Divinity OS won PCs GOTY on GS last year too, right? Because a colorful art-style heavy isometric RPG was SO hyper-realistic and had 'TEH GRAFIX'.

Your absolutism and generalization is disgusting.

I made you a thread.

I hope this helps: http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/2uyhig/i_saw_a_console_peasant_today/

Lord Gaben, please forgive them for they know not what they do. Shed your holy light on these poor lost souls so they may find their way out of the darkness and into thy light.

@iandizion713:

Hear hear!

who isn't tired of PC elitists seriously? There are fanboys and then there's the PC master race.

Just 3 questions for you pc guys. What game on PC can match up to a game like The Last Of Us? Plz enlighten me, om not a PC gamer. All that talk about graphics and fps but is that really the most important factor to make a great game? Why should i invest in a high-end $1000 PC when i know such great games like TLOU are coming out for consoles?

Why is it that just because I choose to game on a PC I am automatically branded part of the master race and an elitist. And it's funny you say PC gamers are only obsessed with graphics when indies are the most popular on the PC out of all platforms, and you seem to be blind to all the fan boys on console that argue over a few pixels difference and a few frames per second difference on nearly every gaming forum on the net....you single out one group of gamers on a particular platform and brand them all the same while ignoring people on platforms you support who are doing exactly the same thing...

When are you going to follow your own advice and go round these forums and denounce console fan boys?

The only difference between PC and console fan boys is that on PC they have a name for it (master race)

I mean some PS fan boys actually call Sony Godny and relate kat hirai to being a messiah...sound familiar?

Maybe just, ya know, chill out. Don't worry about it. Do what you wanna do and ignore any negativity.

Anything with more than > 60fps and a 75-90% festive discount. :3

To be fair i don't know that many pc gamers personally, I can only judge by the vocal majority that I read of online lol Perhaps they are representative, perhaps they are not who is to say. Gaben? lolllllllllllll you see what I mean, it's a cult!

@moinsyyed: exactly so you are speaking from an uninformed viewpoint....you believe most PC gamers are like that so you sub consciously choose to see that the most....I believe all sides to be as bad as each other so surprise suprise I see equal amounts of shit from both sides.

I used to pray to Gaben too, but it became such a hot mess building my own PCs. No literally, I had liquid cooling and so many fans in my full tower, but my systems still got so hot that it could heat up a room in winter - not to mention the fan noise.

I don't think I can ever go back, except for some exceptional game that required mouse & keyboard (Star Citizen?). Ultra graphics just doesn't justify sacrificing comfort. The the money that I spent on video cards alone, I now spend on getting consoles for each room.

@psn_m1nat3k: in japan i'd imagine he's referred to as gaben-san or gaben-sama lol

@jimmy_russell: I'm sure a lot of people use computers for work to generate income. If you're specifically talking about game-related revenue, you'll have to be more specific. There are a lot of people on Twitch.tv that make money by streaming their console gaming sessions.

Good god. Don't bunch PC gamers together with the master race herd. Not the same thing, believe me. One can be a PC gamer without being an insufferable douchebag.

@Black_Knight_00: Imagine how annoying it is for somebody like me who has been gaming on pc for the past 24 years.

For 20 of them I was just a PC gamer,and for the past 4 years according to console fan boys I'm a mustard racer and an elitistAnd that's despite not taking part in such inane arguments,the only thing I do is call out people when they make false assumptions or false facts about the platform I know so well,nowadays pointing out facts in defense of uninformed opinions makes me an elitist douche bag apparently oh joy.

@naz99: it is fact that most PC's are superior to console in terms of raw specs. But that matters only if you care about solely raw performance and graphics, a very small part of what goes into making games great. Give me brilliant art direction over high resolution poly's any day. Youre stating the obvious when you say PC games look better than there console counterparts, its a pointless debate that just becomes a flame war.

I have a PC and an XBOX. I still prefer the keyboard and mouse to the controller, but I'm slowly accepting it as an inferior and clumsy yet often useful device for getting me through a game. Console gaming is as simple as it gets and you don't have to deal with DRMs. All you have to do is press the On button and it's smooth sailing from there on out. That may be the reason console gamers are looked down upon as if they were undeveloped dim-witted savages. But that is the appeal as well. Ultimately the goal is to enjoy yourself no matter what the tool that's delivering the enjoyment has under the hood unless you're a masochist. But I still say the controller is awkward and clumsy. That's what the whole issue is about if you ask me.

@ChrisAnetkaC: you couldn't play a beat em up or action game on a keyboard, so I don't really think its about that. It seems predemoninantly PC FPS gamers who tend to be the worst of the crop of the elite master race.

@ChrisAnetkaC: I personally think Keyboard and mouse are clumsy to use and i can not understand why people prefer that to a modern controller when it comes to shooters and many other games, i mean, it must feel way more natural to use a controller that fits perfectly in your hands and pretty much feels like a gun when you fire with your trigger finger and you also have rumble in your controller so you can get some kinda feedback when you shoot. For me, mouse and keyboard is outdated, only thing it's good for is strategy games and rpg's.

My issue with the "PC Master Race" is their continual condescending tones towards console gamers. Yes, we get that on average, games look better on PC and cost less, but we prefer the hassle-free convenience of consoles and we have our own group of exclusives you can't get on PC, so it balances out. Really, anyone who seriously claims "PC Master Race" is just an arrogant asshole.

@moinsyyed: Um how exactly am I saying that when I did not even say that??????

Maybe reread my posts perhaps.

We're you meaning to reply to somebody elselse?

How can I state the obvious when I have not even stated what you said?

Your reply to my posts make no sense I think you need to work on your reading comprehension?.

@naz99: when you said pointing out facts about 'pc gaming', what did you mean? What possible points could you be pointing out that people don't know already?

You cant create console games without a PC. Fack what you heard, all praise Gaben.tv. Its all just a joke, its all meant to be fun and games. PC Master race is just a fun game to play on the internet. If you are offended, well, i cant help you much.

Keyboard and mouse just give you more buttons and more control. Cant play to many MMORPG's without a keyboard. Once you get use to controls, they feel special, but it dont stop there. Have you seen racing wheels and flight controllers, etc, PC shat gets crazy. Its lightyears ahead of consoles. But thats not the point. Its all about content. I love PC to death and Worship Lord Gaben, but Nintendo is God.

@moinsyyed: Ahh so you are just making blind assumptions....

You just assume because I'm a PC gamer I'm automatically talking about graphics....

Way to show your lack of bias.

I'm on a mobile at the moment I will clarify later, typing it out now is a pain

Peasants. Peasants everywhere. Hail Lord GabeN!

@PonchoTaco: lolllllllllllll

"BAWW why are people asking for games to become available on their platform"

Stop being a baby.

@PonchoTaco: or as the japanese would call him, 'Gaben-sama'

@ChrisAnetkaC:

I started gaming on a console and I too find the Keyboard & Mouse to be a bit clunky. I still prefer a controller for most games and even use my PS4 controller for most PC gaming. The exception being Counter Strike...where you are at an extreme disadvantage if your not using the k&m.

You are right about consoles being easier because for the most part its as easy as put the disc in and go. PC can be a bit more complicated, especially if you get into mods, but in my opinion the mod community is another reason why PC gaming is great. I can take an older game like Skyrim or Fallout and with mod's make it a fun and interesting again.

I just don't get the hate from both sides of the argument. I guess its just fanboys from one side or the other who do not realize the grass is green on both sides of the fence.

Conversely, I get called a console fanboy and PC hater (despite the fact I've been PC gaming since the Amiga 500, which makes it about 25 years), just because I refuse to sacrifice my firstborn to the Fat God.

What bothers me about PC gamers is the way they play down or attempt to disregard anyone who has had legitimate grievances with the platform. And as someone who has delved into everything from registry keys to changing Northbridge voltages I know my fair share about the ups-and-downs of PC gaming. But there's something more disturbing about PC fanboyism than your regular brand-allegiance that defines console fanboyism. It's actually creepy.

@Articuno76: indeed they're a very particular flavour of 'deranged'